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Old 01-06-2006, 04:24 AM
BeautifulBurnout
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Re: Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig
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Originally Posted by goldfish
Nope.

Those who are willing and able to share the mix should be allowed to do so, and should be allowed to discuss it - where else would you discuss Underworld than dirty.org? Even if more people cared about RTSR, this is about sharing, not trading.

If anything, people should be encouraged to help undermine skalpers and bootleggers exploiting fans via eBay. Otherwise we head into a situation whereby the only people to benefit are the skalpers and those rich enough to pay silly money on eBay. All this for something which if more readily available would in no reasonably defined fashion harm Underworld, or anyone else for that matter.

If you don't want to, that's entirely up to you.

Simon
1. It is not a mix. It is a collection of CDs recorded by the band and their management to be sold for commercial gain at their Japanese concerts. This is not a "bootleg", sound-board or otherwise, no matter how hard you try to twist the semantics to serve your argument.

2. I reiterate in challenging you to find a post where anyone is banning anyone from sharing or trading this P2P. The matter was discussed by RTSR member and it was decided that because of the commercial nature of the release, RTSR was not the proper place to be sharing it because it crossed a line into trading/sharing commercial product.

3. Dirty.Org is the official Underworld forum. I maintain my position, purely out of respect for the Band, that this is not the place to be openly sharing/trading commercial product. It never has been and it never should be. That is my personal opinion. There is absolutely nothing to stop people pm'ing or emailing each other if they want to enter into discussions. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? What if the next album is produce in different versions for different markets worldwide? Should the Australian CD be ripped and "shared" on here because there are two extra tracks on it? Should the Outer Mongolian DVD Special? It's a slippery slope.

4. People can get hold of this quite easily if they look for it in the right place - you said yourself you had most of it. But people coming in here and demanding that a copy of it be linked for them to download and insulting anyone who has a copy and hasn't shared it with them, (as at least one of the posters on this thread has done), is hardly likely to endear people towards wanting to share the picking of their nose with them, much less anything else.

I, too, am withdrawing from this conversation now. I have said what needs to be said.

Edit: apart from this, which I missed:
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldfish
Why not just say what it is and be done with all this? Why the pathetic little games?

Simon
Pathetic little games? What IS your issue with people exactly? Sulking for weeks in the background, then bouncing back up to take personal pops at Stimpee, Eike and I? That is pathetic, Simon.
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Last edited by BeautifulBurnout; 01-06-2006 at 04:29 AM.