[joethelion]

No one (save for R&K + Darren) really knows what really went on in the studio in the composition of their three albums and all those EPs / singles

but there have been little bits and clues that can give you an idea of how it all went, like:

• Darren is only credited on Surfboy on Dubno... and I believe isn't credited on all the dubno era tracks either (but not sure) - after that point, pretty much everything was just credited as UW (w/ all three names)
• there've been stories that during BF - darren rarely (if ever) shared a studio with Rick
• even though the aforementioned note is true - Darren's also said that that album was the one with the most of his influence... and at least a sample or partial drum loop (maybe more - not sure) that he created during STITI period later became Bruce Lee

it's all just very weird if you ask me... they started off with a symbiotic relationship - Darren would road test UW tracks (which is true) and Rick would return the favor by making Darren more familiar with a studio set-up, giving him tips, etc (which is also true) -> I get the feeling all those "Steppin Razor" remixes were the early fruits of their labor

then things went down from there

I just wonder how much actual 'work' Darren did in the studio. I get the feeling that he really wasn't 'there in the studio' with Rick on a majority of tracks - but was given credits, as he definitely helped them out a lot in the early days (esp with confidence) and as a part of the live outfit - and just by what I've read and seen, I also get the feeling that the two of them are very passive-agressive, you know?

and Karl... well, I think he was just kinda caught in the middle