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Originally Posted by dubman
the astroturf that created what's generously being called a new political party was born out of corporate interest. these interests went through PR firms that went through news channels that became best-sellers. this kind of machination isnt a stretch, but it's definitely "strange" (as the thread title has it) because it's a new level in a very eerie way.
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No it absolutely isn't a stretch. But corporations, like banks, or journalists, or governments or all four in cahoots are always doing what is in their interest, what everyone else is simply doing around them, and whatever they can get away with. So you can pretty much chalk up corporate dickheadedness as a constant in this equation.
What's a variable is just how much they can get away with, and how little people resist. Things like regulator capturing, lobby pressured law making, monopolies, favoring subsidies, etc have rose and fell in magnitude since the beginning.
So the question has become what is it about now that has made this corporate take over so potent, and the resistance so withered, and the people who should be outraged at the particular, glaring corruption so devoid of common sense or reason. Not to pick on him, as he's clearly a drop in the bucket, but how does someone like mongoose, who obviously means well and wants to make things better, end up getting a hard on when obama says "muslim faith" but yawns at the all too real examples of corporate corruption that is literally beating him in the face on a daily basis.
I firmly believe that americans, to stereotype, want to do the right thing. which is why they end up doing such awful things because someone succeeded in convincing them it was right and good. And that's only compounded by the fact that the government has so perfectly grafted the american christian church onto it and corporations have so perfectly grafted the government onto it, so that now its really easy to make it an ethical argument to say, not does it make uncle sam happy when you shop at walmart, it makes jesus happy too. Not only are liberals against capitalism, they are against God. This is *precisely* the reason why dialog has been so degenerated, and why talking to mongoose is not unlike talking to a street preacher about evolution.
My interest is not to make fun or condescend or sneer at people like Mongoose. My interest is to shame them into dropping the bullshit. That convincing them of giving up the pretense they have it all figured out and it starts with the knights templar is what is really good and right and what will make jesus the happiest.