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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ
There was no oil "conspiracy".
But do try to visualize, maybe, a little bit of all of the points mentioned above. The mess we're in cannot be boiled down to one(1) all-encompassing-pin-pointed reason. Life isn't a Hollywood film with a happily ever after ya know.
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well I guess that was sort of a legitimate retort so I'll bite and respond.
Believing that Iraq was for oil is a conspiracy because it contradicts the stated reasons for the invasion, its not provable, but is nevertheless a reasonable theory.
I don't buy it because I subscribe to yet another conspiracy theory, that is probably no more provable beyond doubt, but I find nevertheless is more justifiable by the evidence. That is, the iraq war was an ideological conflict. The motivating ideology can range from spreading "american values" to a full on apocalyptic crusade. Its not so interesting to me what the exact ideology was. Whether or not Bush told Chirac that the battle of Gog and Magog was upon us is not as interesting, from a perspective of understanding the causes, as it is to simply claim that the causes were religious. Religous devotion to Jesus, religious devotion to "american way of life" or "american democracy" whatever.
If you like I can go back and outline all of the aspects of the conflict that betray the religious, as opposed to the cold, mercenary competition for resources, or strategies of defense in the "war on terror."
Regarding the dangers of christian fascism as a "hollywood movie" conspiracy.... Please read American Fascism by Chris Hedges, Blackwater by Jeremy Scahill, and the family by Jeff Sharlet, and lets talk about whether or not a push for christian autocracy is a sandwich board toting crazy's concern, or if its something worthwhile to discuss.
As an example, from the video I posted, Sharlet referenced the push to build megachurches on all military bases. Do you think the intention is to instill values of brotherly love and forgiveness in the members of our armed forces? Its to theocratize what should be and must be our democratic military.
So I just took your post seriously and responded with sincerity, please don't make me regret it by simply tagging this post with trollish knee jerk nonsense like you do all my other ones.