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Old 07-22-2009, 03:36 PM
Deckard
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Re: is there anyone else who is pro-life AND pro-gay rights, or is it just me?
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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
I'm not downplaying it.
Yes you were. Specifically, "I don't think 'society' bases their opinions on fear and bigotry". Whereas my response was that opinions are frequently based on fear and - if not bigotry (I'm not comfortable with that word), then at least ignorance.

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
That it's a slippery slope?
No. That's called a fallacy. When I said "argument", I meant something, you know, with legs. I also used the word convincing, and used it very deliberately.

I don't argue that opponents of gay marriage are bigots or homophobes. But an argument doesn't automatically become watertight by mere virtue of not being rooted in homophobia or "bigotry".

Anyway I'm taking dubman's advice and cutting out the rest of my post, particularly having just read this:

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The point is that everyone is gonna argue based on whatever bias they have
Really, if we can't get past the catch-all accusation of "you're biased!" then I can't be bothered wasting my time.