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Originally Posted by stimpee
Fish have great memories and they feel pain and yet we leave them out to suffocate, cut their gills and let them bleed to death without a thought. They surely have a much more developed brain (if a foetus indeed has a brain at 22 days).
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Don't you have to kill what you want to eat? Besides, the priority of laws is not to violate human rights. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" hasn't got much sway in aquariums. In fact, killing a fish is part of one person's pursuit of happiness that does not violate other people's rights, then it is totally legal. Law sets the standard of interpersonal relationships, mediated by government, because people willfully enter in the social contract of government. Government, and coincidentally the rule of law, aren't universal maxims. At this stage in history, humans can't even avoid killing each other... Good luck getting people to aim their biological need to eat. Noble, but impractical for today's world. Can be keep the abortion debate framed within humans and the laws we apply to ourselves?
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Originally Posted by cacophony
pardon me, but all i did was get to the meat of it. the actual flesh, the real meat. all you've done is float around in happyland, postulating philosophical questions as though they have any merit in reality.
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If we followed your line of discussion there would be thousands of special cases we would have to entertain. That's just not practical. That's why lawmakers turn to reasoning.... Nuances are important after you've laid out the groundwork. I don't like to build my house with the furniture first, basically.
Speaking of that reasoning. When it comes to our little misunderstanding... if the fetus is not a unique individual, and its not an extension of the female form... what could it be? Nothing. That is why the polar opposites interpretation was sound. Oh, well. I made a mistake. WE GET IT: You're madz0rz! If you're too busy being sore to discuss what we're talking about now, don't respond. You're not a victim... go do something productive.