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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
I asked a clarifying question. I think ya'll took it as a statement.
ME: ...'pro-choicers' view the fetus as an extension of the female form while 'pro-lifers' view the fetus as its own entity with its own rights.
COCOPHONY: wrong. so very very wrong.
ME: so you think a fetus is a unique human being (with civil liberties?) but also believe that ending the life of said fetus is only taking control of your own health? [NOTE: "only taking control of your own health" = "not taking control of another person's health as well"]
I thought some of her views could contradict each other depending on her beliefs
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When your "clarifying question"...
so you think a fetus is a unique human being (with civil liberties?) but also believe that ending the life of said fetus is only taking control of your own health?
...is followed immediately by this sentence...
"you're gonna have to resolve that contradiction before i bother typing anything else."
...then you've just transformed your "clarifying question" into an accusation. You're demanding she defend a position that she never took. In fact, it's a position that you and you alone have introduced, so I don't see why she should be forced to defend it.
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
but she never actually clarified what her beliefs were. I'm not even sure what she thinks a fetus is... that's not an insult, I just have no idea what I'm discussing with who I'm discussing it with. If I use a question mark, that means I would actually like an answer. CONFUSING, I KNOW! She could have said, "No you're totally wrong" and that would have been more constructive.
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Interesting you should be explaining to us how to be constructive. In my opinion, "constructive" would've been an actual request for clarification rather than a demanding accusation.
"Hey Cacophony, at what point do you consider a fetus it's own, separate, living entity?" Something along those lines would probably ellicit a more informative response.
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
I appreciate her perspective on pregnancy just as much as the next fully developed fetus, but I don't feel like I know her reasoning well enough to discuss it in a debate.
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Fair enough.