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Old 06-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Sean
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Re: is there anyone else who is pro-life AND pro-gay rights, or is it just me?
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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite View Post
I read everything she said, and I comprehend it just fine.
Then why have your last few posts so wildly misprepresented what she's said? I mean you actually claimed that Cacophony argued "a fetus is a unique human being (with civil liberties?) but also...that ending the life of said fetus is only taking control of your own health", despite the fact that she repeatedly made comments about how complications for both the mother and the fetus need to be considered, as well as the long-term effects that carrying a baby to term despite said complications could potentially have on both parties.

Perhaps what you're misconstruing is Cacophony's central point that legislating away the right of a woman to retain abortion as an option would have catastrophic consequences on the health of mothers who find themselves in these difficult situations. But no one here, Cacophony included, has denied that having an abortion clearly involves taking control of the life of the fetus. In fact, she even went so far as to say that given the choice, she would have traded her own life for her twins in the face of the complications she personally experienced. Clearly, this stance indicates that she recognizes the impact her choice would have had on all parties. So if you can quote an instance of that point being made - that "ending the life of said fetus is only taking control of your own health" - then I'll gladly concede.

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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite View Post
She has said nothing to reconcile my belief that a pregnant woman, sick or not, has a human being inside of her that she does not have the right to kill. Even in the interest of her own health. I apologize for having concise principles that can't be talked around...
Well that may be, and you're entitled to hold whatever beliefs you like, but that isn't the issue. The issue is that you're arguing your point by employing blatant misrepresentations of the points being made by others which, unfortunately, makes it difficult to continue any kind of meaningful dialogue.
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Last edited by Sean; 06-28-2009 at 12:14 PM.