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Old 03-10-2009, 03:48 PM
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Re: No Democracy in China
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here in Morocco the government is doing everything it can to suppress every theological idea other than it's own. However, the people here know enough about Islaam that they know that the government's version of it is not correct, and the government it putting laws into place that go against the laws of Islaam. This is getting the people mad. And when the only real Scholar here speaks against these against, they shut him down.
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This is how the government here oppresses the people.
the government oppresses the people because they don't have any strong leadership. The reason the people don't have any strong leadership, is because all the would be leaders are poking through religious arcana, instead of watering the problem down to lack of justice, freedom, and transparency.

for example. they tell their flock to riot if there's no prayer hour...

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Should something like this happen, this could be a trigger that causes riots etc.
when they should be telling the people they have a right to a fair government. meanwhile people are standing around unheard and disorganized about the real problems...

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If you ever go to Rabat, the people are out in front of the Parlament building protesting over job issues and the like, nearly every day. I have never seen so much protesting at the US capital, like I do here. I mentiont this just to show how the people don't like the way things are and now they are voicing it.
i mean tell me if I"m wrong. but that is the perception I'm getting...

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And this goes into another topic that I was thinking of. That is that it is just a matter of morals here. That is that the morals of say the US are rapidly declining do these ideas of individualism. While this idea is being promoted it seems to be great, but the society at large is suffering. An example of this can be in pornography. Lets take the US, since was born and raised there, and compare it to Saudi Arabia, since I also lived there. In Saudi, pornography is outright banned. Websites and all that are blocked and you can bring it into the country. While a US citizen might think this is extreme, one can not deny that there are negative aspects to society by allowing the open sale of pornography. 50 years ago, the ideas on the subject were different then they are today. Now one may say that the US has grown and progressed or whatever nice term is out there, but the reality is the bar has just been going down. Instead of before where pornography was not allowed, it is allowed now until the point where you get to child pornography. This is still a no-no. But if you follow this pattern then perhaps in another 50 years child pornography would be not viewed like it is now. In a society that is ruled by the people without bounds, this is certainly possible. However, in a society where the rule is confined within the bounds of Islaam, this would never be a possibilty because Islaam cuts off this things before they are able to begin.
the family business does work in saudi arabia, kuwait, dubai, morocco, egypt. the so called morals are for the little people. The ruling class have no problem jetting off to a western country, say somewhere in europe or las vegas to get their rocks off. So lets be clear when we are talking about islamic inspired morals in middle eastern countries who they are for. or so is what i"ve been told from family.
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