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Old 11-12-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: stem cell research
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Originally Posted by gambit View Post
1) With the talk about stem cells not having a choice in the matter for research, I'm reminded of the people the Nazis experimented on in the concentration camps. They did not have a choice in the matter, yet physicians today still wrestle with using the data gathered from the Nazi experimentations. From Wikipedia:

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well the thing is, no one is arguing for the continuation and public funding of nazi research practices. the knowledge gained from suffering isn't necessarily tainted in and of itself. hell, the spread of pandemic diseases is what gave us our modern understanding of hygiene and sanitation. the question is whether you deliberately and willfully allow for the practice of induced death or suffering in an effort to derive new scientific data. like establishing new concentration camps to run similar experiments. or unleashing a pandemic disease in order to study its effects.

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Every year in the United States, millions of embryos die. Each of them had the unique genetic potential of an individual human being. These embryos do not die in laboratories, nor in abortion clinics, nor after women have taken RU486, the "abortion pill." They die as part of a natural process that has, as far as we know, been going on as long as there have been human beings. Some scientists estimate that for every embryo that becomes a child, four fertilized eggs fail to make it. Others think that the ratio is closer to one lost fertilized egg for every child born. Even on the lower estimate, more than three million embryos die annually in the United States from natural causes. These are embryos that have failed to implant in the woman's uterus. They are released with her menstrual bleeding. In most cases the woman never even knows that she conceived.

Should we feel that this loss of embryos is a terrible thing, a kind of ongoing holocaust? If each human embryo is "something precious to be protected," then surely this is how we should feel.


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again, natural termination is entirely different from induced termination. scores of people die every day from natual causes. that's not an argument to euthanize without consent and use the cadavers for research.