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Old 11-06-2008, 11:31 AM
Sean
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Re: Final results thread
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Originally Posted by Deckard View Post
I just tell myself these are no more than the death throes of anti-gay attitudes*, not a long-term trend.

The day will come eventually. Women, blacks, gays..... progress ultimately moves in a decidedly liberal direction. Those who hate eventually find themselves on the wrong side of history. The important thing is not to give up hope.
I do hope you're right. But even if you are, I hate the fact that those who have recently been married are stuck in limbo now. They don't know what this means for them - will their marriages stand, or be nullified? The last I heard this morning is that no one knows for sure. It's incredibly narrow-minded and disappointing to me that a majority of people who voted actually feel it's right to have language in our state constitution that literally strips a group of rights. The amendment specifically says that it "Changes California Constitution to eliminate right of same-sex couples to marry." Shouldn't we be past the era where we constitutionally strip people of their rights? I mean, I realize that many laws technically strip people of rights. Like I don't have the right in California to drive without wearing my seat belt, or while I'm pounding back a beer, but that's a far cry from telling people that they don't have the right to publicly affirm their loving relationship by celebrating it through the commitment of marriage.

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(*EDIT: with a footnote that a few of those opposing gay marriage would not necessarily see themselves as anti-gay)
This is true, and yet their support of prop 8 still hurts people by stripping them of their rights just as equally as the prop 8 support coming from people who are motivated by bigotry.

It's just another all-around disappointing display of where we are (or, more appropriately, aren't) as a society in my view.
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Last edited by Sean; 11-06-2008 at 12:15 PM.