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myrrh 03-18-2009 08:17 AM

Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
So predicts the CIA...

bryantm3 03-18-2009 09:20 AM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
got a better source than a newspaper funded by the iranian government?

bas_I_am 03-18-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myrrh (Post 109627)

If there is any justice. . sooner!

Sean 03-18-2009 11:33 AM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
This is quite the dubious article. An Iranian government owned publication that quotes a supposedly incendiary, secret CIA report which has only been seen by "some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee", and that cites the analytical views of a pro-Palestinian reporter who can't seem to be any more articulate than saying things like "there is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports"?

I have a hard time taking this article very seriously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas_I_am (Post 109636)
If there is any justice. . sooner!

This is just a debate that will never, ever, ever end I guess.

Strangelet 03-18-2009 12:23 PM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 109638)
This is just a debate that will never, ever, ever end I guess.

agreed. which is why I kind of find it just noise. The barebones facts are that jewish israelis are a dramatic minority in their own country, let alone the entire middle east, and they have a strong majority of the power in the region. This is just textbook ingredients to instability, one that must reach a comfortable steady state eventually. Where opinion comes in is exactly how that steady state will be achieved. I really doubt its going to be by a massive exodus of jewish israelis out of the region. Nuclear atrocity, maybe.

but hopefully it will just resolve itself by peaceful rebalancing of power.

Deckard 03-18-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
I predict nuclear atrocity rather than peaceful resolution, I really do, whether it's Iran, Israel, or both. Or possibly a bit further up, Pakistan (unless we can find one of our own sons-of-bitches to discreetly install). I don't think I've ever felt this pessimistic about the chances of a peaceful resolution in the region as I do now.

No idea about the veracity of this report, but I'm inclined to take it with a huge tablespoon piled high with salt.

I'd never heard of PressTV before. Wikipedia tells me (so this must be true) that its foreign-based correspondents include the likes of Yvonne Ridley, George Galloway, Andrew Gilligan, Tariq Ramadan, Nick Ferrari, James Whale.

Sooo... yes. A motley crew if ever I saw one.

//\/\/ 03-18-2009 03:51 PM

Re: Israel will fall in 20 years?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 109643)
I'd never heard of PressTV before. Wikipedia tells me (so this must be true) that its foreign-based correspondents include the likes of Yvonne Ridley, George Galloway, Andrew Gilligan, Tariq Ramadan, Nick Ferrari, James Whale.

Sooo... yes. A motley crew if ever I saw one.

they should've called it GobshiteTV! :rolleyes:


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