Palin (almost) talks sense
 

Palin:
Yes, you tell 'em, Sarah! Gosh darn it, I actually agree with her on something.

Oh, hold on, she's not quite finished her sentence...

*facepalm*

So the (so-called) Ground Zero mosque, proposed in a clear spirit of reconciliation, of building stronger interfaith dialogue and understanding, and something that could genuinely form the start of a movement to take the ground from under the feet of Islamic extremists'..... so alike in spirit with Pastor Jones' Great Book-Burning Adventure, eh?

:rolleyes:

Oh well. At least she managed to impress us by using the word 'antithetical'. She'll go far, that one.

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Boehner drew the same parallel. Sadly, such blatant shallowness of thought seems to be going undetected by a huge swath of American society.

I'm sad to say it, but I was at lunch the other day with a co-worker who brought this up by saying, "How about that mosque they're trying to build at Ground Zero? What are they thinking?" When I asked him why he felt like it was a problem, he literally couldn't say. When I asked why the moderate Muslims planning the community center should be held accountable for the actions of extremists when we don't hold all Christians accountable for alter boy molestation or the murder of abortion doctors, or all Mormons accountable for the few who marry underage girls in their polygamist relationships (my coworker is Mormon), again, he couldn't say. After just a few minutes, he admitted that he didn't really know anything about it, but knew that people were upset for some reason. Luckily, he's an open-minded enough person that once we talked about it, he was interested in finding out more. So that's good, but I'm sure there are tons of people who are the same as him. They know it's a controversy, and don't think about it beyond the blurbs they see on TV, so they just go along with it. And now 7 in 10 Americans think it's a bad idea based on no objective reasoning whatsoever.

It's a shock to me that something as extreme as this is happening in 2010. I'm getting awfully sick of being shocked this way.

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Yesterday on the 9 year anniversary, all I could think of, is how bad things have gotten for my generation. It's like, things aren't improving. When I learned about the Tea Party, I was speechless.
There is a great depression here in the states that I can't put my finger on, I don't think anyone can put their finger on. It is so broad, and encompasses so many reasons piled onto the other it would take a book to pin-point a general idea.

Frankly, I'm tired of living here. Very tired of living here.

I believe Patriotism is a good thing, but how to express it I am confused. I lived in Mexico for a stint and enjoyed it thoroughly and how banded everyone felt. And my roommate in university was from Montreal, Quebec. He told me much about Montreal and Canada in general, how people interact, and even though most of Canada wants to disown Quebec (he says), and vice versa, they are still a unified country in cause and purpose.

9/11 was the most altering day I can think of in my lifetime. Not for me, because I didn't lose anyone or anything on that day. But the repercussions that have done so much damage, it makes me feel sick.

But back on topic:

I'm still surprised people take Palin seriously.

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This is so true Caprice. Watching the proliferation of hate and prejudice since 9/11 has been nothing short of wretched. It's not just in the States - it's been steadily growing here in Britain too. Attitudes and events that would have seemed unthinkably callous or stupid a decade ago are now so commonplace. ("20 million affected in Pakistan floods? Well why should WE help the Moslems [sic] when THEY tried to blow us up?") This kind of dumb tribal crap is everywhere.

It's like.... shit, the terrorists have won.

And so many people seem too f-cking dim or brainwashed to get it.

Just to be clear, I don't want to dismiss everyone the above way. Obviously there are an awful lot of people who aren't kneejerk knuckleheads and are fairly receptive to reasoning (perhaps like your lunch colleague Sean). But what scares me is this (and I'll put it in scary caps):

WHY AREN'T PEOPLE THINKING?

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Are you? Not me. Not any longer. :(

I just hope this isn't an indicator of things to come...

Sarah Palin's Iowa trip points to 2012 presidential run
("Attendance at Republican dinner in key state is seen as biggest sign yet that Sarah Palin aims to take on Obama in 2012...")

A couple of years back I'd have said bring it on - a great loser candidate.

Now I'm really not so sure.

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Yeah like they'd let us cruise on over and build a Christian Religious Center right next to Mecca.:rolleyes:

http://i55.tinypic.com/m77xj9.png

Fuck, they jump up and down on camera burning our fucking flags and screaming death to all American infidels.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...bama-robes.jpg

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I think that one of the main reasons all this is happening with the mosque and all the hate is because deep in the sub-conscience of American's there has still not been any closure to 9/11.

There is still a big gaping hole in lower Manhattan, and Obama still has not been caught. If one of these two things where resolved, I feel that people would have closer to that event and move onto other things.

If the new World Trade Center was built with a memorial and all, I doubt that that building this mosque would even be an issue.

Umm, to be on topic... Palin is an idiot.

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You can not compare building a Christian Religious Center next to Mecca with the mosque because the two countries governments are based on different principles. Saudi Arabia is a theocracy, we are a democracy. Saudia Arabia doesn't have to allow anything other than Islam in their country because they state that Islam is the countries religion; whereas we say that you can do anything you want here, thus it is your right to build a religious center where ever you want.

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No one argues the legality of the issue. The whole situation is it's appropriateness, and the fact that there are corcerns over the source of the financial backing.

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lol:D:D:D:D