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big screen satellite 03-19-2009 04:29 AM

Champions League Draw 20th March
 
i so think we (Man United) will draw Liverpool :)

it'll then be the match of Revenge...

How's the draw gonna turn out tomorrow?

here's my full prediction:


Barca vs Chelsea
Liverpool vs Man United
Arsenal vs Bayern Munich
Villareal vs Porto

Thats what i reckon, may be drawn other way around home/away (but that's what i think)

we'll see tomorrow...

Dirty0900 03-19-2009 05:41 AM

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Liverpool v Chelsea

It happens nearly every year!

Rog 03-19-2009 06:03 AM

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i don't care who we get at this stage...there are no easy games except perhaps................ utd..............LOL!:p:p:D:D

matt 03-19-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 109662)
Liverpool v Chelsea

It happens nearly every year!

Yes and from Matt's draw above that would be the semi final ;)

IsiliRunite 03-19-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 109665)
Yes and from Matt's draw above that would be the semi final ;)

Oh snap! You know what that means.

matt 03-20-2009 05:46 AM

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Villarreal v Arsenal
Manchester United v FC Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barcelona v Bayern Munich

That is pretty unbelievable!

So United - Arsenal and Barca - Liverpool/Chelsea semi finals then anyone..?

big screen satellite 03-20-2009 05:54 AM

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lol

Liverpool vs Chelsea - 5 years running...

or something...

never mind - at least one of them won't be near the final again...

Arsenal vs United in the semis should be interesting (should we both get through)

matt 03-20-2009 05:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 109698)
lol

Liverpool vs Chelsea - 5 years running...

or something...

never mind - at least one of them won't be near the final again...

We must have really offended the footballing gods to be given another serving of Liverpool Chelsea though. Think I'll be watching the Bayern - Barca matches those nights and then switch over just in time for the penalties in the other game...

Eikman 03-20-2009 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 109695)

So United - Arsenal and Barca - Liverpool/Chelsea semi finals then anyone..?

don't underestimate bayern....i am a huge barca fan and loathe bayern, but it is not going to be easy i'm afraid...

Rog 03-20-2009 08:01 PM

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at this stage eik, there are NO easy games.......cream of europe now.....;)

stimpee 03-23-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rog (Post 109728)
at this stage eik, there are NO easy games.......cream of europe now.....;)

Yes there are. Porto and Villareal. Arsenal and Man Utd should brush them aside, though Man Utds form recently is pants, Arsenal have got the best form in the premier league.

matt 03-23-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 109771)
Arsenal have got the best form in the premier league.

Actually, Spurs have got the best current form in the Premier League! :D :eek:

stimpee 03-25-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 109774)
Actually, Spurs have got the best current form in the Premier League! :D :eek:

As far as points earned in the last 6 matches, yes. But Arsenal are unbeaten since 22 November in the league, whereas Spurs were beaten 3 times away from home in January alone, as recently as 31 January.

big screen satellite 03-26-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 109838)
As far as points earned in the last 6 matches, yes. But Arsenal are unbeaten since 22 November in the league, whereas Spurs were beaten 3 times away from home in January alone, as recently as 31 January.


.... Well, prior to our last two defeats we were doing pretty well in being undefeated and not conceding goals - in fact Arsenal's undefeated run includes several 'draws' - ours was almost all of wins...

but on current 6 games form Spurs are the best team at the moment...

however over the last 8 games United are the best form side, having not drawn 5 like Arsenal, which in terms of points is 10 dropped, unlike United losing two games which is just 6 dropped...

stats are useful when you want to show teams in good or bad light (Man United must be the current worst team over the past two games for example... whereas Liverpool the best)

the next games and the finishing position are generally key to form - whoever wins the league is the best team, because point accrued = best form over 38 games... we'll see how well Spurs and Arsenal fare at the end of the season....

Rog 03-26-2009 09:59 AM

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at least it promises to be an exciting finish this year.....for me anyway......unless we f**k up next game that is:D

Eikman 04-08-2009 03:35 PM

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jesus what a disgrace by bayern....not that i mind......VIVA BARCA! :D

IsiliRunite 04-08-2009 04:59 PM

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Its good to see at least one of Chelsea's recent acquisitions coming through at important times. Twice, though? I didn't think 4 goals would be scored in that game.

Rog 04-08-2009 05:36 PM

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we were outplayed.....we were lucky to get away with 1-3:confused::(

//\/\/ 04-15-2009 05:19 AM

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cracking second leg - spoiled, and made, by reina's goof...

big screen satellite 04-16-2009 04:02 AM

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Ronaldooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal!

bring on the Arse...

Michel Platini will be loving the fact another British team will make the final again,

:D

//\/\/ 04-16-2009 04:50 AM

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to be honest, my money's on arsenal/barca. the arse are hitting peak form right now - could be a sneaky bet for a double...

Dirty0900 04-16-2009 12:18 PM

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Tough call between Arse and Man Yoo game. Arse have this to go for so will go flat out as they can only really finish in a league place where they need to qualify for it again via play off's if they don't win it.

Can't see Chelsea denting Barca at all.

Rog 04-16-2009 04:31 PM

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you never know 0900.......barca's record against english teams over the last few years is piss poor so don't write chelski off yet......

must admit that even thogh we're out i enjoyed all the quarter final games. the scouse/chelski game was a blast even though we only drew:
ecstacy-despair-ecstasy-despair for me:D...what a game! hats off to the damned utd for a great 2nd half defensive display and the arse for brushing aside villareal -wish we had drawn them:p. looking forward to the semi's

IsiliRunite 05-06-2009 03:25 PM

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yo ovrebo... you suck.

I'm slightly disappointed, but hope Manchester United can manage a finals loss.

sanblaster 05-07-2009 04:24 AM

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Ref was a fucking disgrace indeed. Red card to Abidal for Anelka's stumble....



(where did the coloured text feature go, anyway?)

//\/\/ 05-07-2009 05:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IsiliRunite (Post 110761)
I'm slightly disappointed, but hope Manchester United can manage a finals loss.

you really see them losing against a team that looked so limited in 2 legs against chelsea?

Rog 05-07-2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sanblaster (Post 110778)
Ref was a fucking disgrace indeed. Red card to Abidal for Anelka's stumble....

...and the three penalties for chelski that he 'missed' - one of which should have been a red card anyway:p

do we detect the hand of platini not wanting another all english final maybe??

the ref was dreadful - and chelski were robbed.........they were the better team last night

sanblaster 05-07-2009 07:31 AM

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I do not agree.


The only penalty I would've awarded was Pique's hand. Chelsea played a shameful, ugly and ultra-defensive (Capello would've proud) football in both legs. Nobody seem to mention Ballacks' yellow card not awarded at Camp Nou and yesterday's red card to Essien's ankle breaker.



Whatever. I can't write in big, red and blue letters anymore, it seems. Now THAT is a conspiracy.

jole 05-07-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 110779)
you really see them losing against a team that looked so limited in 2 legs against chelsea?

LOL, How exactly is a Barca limited team? Especially compared to that thing Chelsea is playing. They practicly dont want the ball unless its in counter attack. It was ridicolous to see them with an extra man playing with a bus parked in front of the box for the 25min period.

//\/\/ 05-07-2009 02:33 PM

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i didn't say they were limited - i said they looked limited - and when you only produce 1 shot on goal, i'd say you'd been made to look limited. limited in ideas about how to break that defence down (which, given the hype, you'd forgive me for expecting)

don't get me wrong; i don't think chelsea deserve to go through because that brand of football is dull and would've led to a(nother) terrible final - but don't get carried away by that - man u are on another level right now. that was my point.

Rog 05-07-2009 02:54 PM

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dammit! my satnav's playing up, keeps telling me chelsea's 2 minutes from rome.........

the way chelsea played reminded me of the way Steaua Bucharest used to play. However, Barcelona did not live up to my expectations or the hype. For a widely touted creative team they struggled to break chelski down and did not impress me at all.....no where near as good as when they're playing the rest of the shite that is the spanish league apart from a couple of other teams. will be a better final than a utd /chelski one would have (probably) been.

big screen satellite 05-08-2009 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 110790)
man u are on another level right now. that was my point.

:eek: thanks - i think!!

yes - the way we ripped the Gooners apart, play like that again, Barac won't stand a chance...

at least the final will be interesting,

Chelsea are a win (or not lose) at all cost team, and would have held out for the lottery of pens again in the final anyway. Chelsea lost because they played negatively in Barca, and at home only had 30% possession - it was inevitable at some point Barca would score, it just happened to be almost the last kick of the game...

forget the ref's decisions, Chelsea should and could have wrapped the game up themselves, the 'decisions' or not to award penalties is neither here nor there... Chelsea did not do a decent enough job over two legs, like they didn't do a decent enough job in last years final... had Barca not scored then they would have not have confronted the ref (i appreciate that had United lost then the decision to award Arsenal a pen and send Fletcher off would have caused upset at the Emirates - its the fact that Chelsea lost that upset them most...)

I'm glad they lost, as a United fan i'd rather be playing Barca (especially having watched them be stifled by Chelsea), but its likely to be a better and more exciting game...

And I hope Everton beat Chelsea in the FA Cup too... :)

sanblaster 05-08-2009 03:08 AM

My, you're a bunch of proper mouthy braggarts, aren't you?



Let us win an ugly game this season, ffs. Not all of them can be a show of skills and precision, can they? It was Chelsea who demeaned the game itself with two lines of 4 players, one metre behind the box, when Barça had the ball, all the time. Not to mention when we played with 10 and Drogba was changed for Belleti.


As long as it concerns me, to read all of you undermining Barça's game adds a little more pleasure to the fact we won at minute 183. Bring on Manchester Utd, who the hell cares if we need Touré playing as center back and Sylvinho as left back. I'm getting a bit tired of this season mumbling and rambling about the power of English footy. Where we you last july? How many players from the youth team play at Arsenal, Manchester, Liverpool and Chelsea? Because we usually play with 7 of them at the same time.


And I still am a tad angry I can't post big red and blue letters here anymore. Yannick do something.

Rog 05-08-2009 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sanblaster (Post 110813)
My, you're a bunch of proper mouthy braggarts, aren't you?

Let us win an ugly game this season, ffs. Not all of them can be a show of skills and precision, can they? It was Chelsea who demeaned the game itself with two lines of 4 players, one metre behind the box, when Barça had the ball, all the time. Not to mention when we played with 10 and Drogba was changed for Belleti.

Barca's so-called Skill and precision got you 1 shot on goal on wednesday and no goals the week before ....go figure:rolleyes:

AND, we have already agreed about how negative chelski were....they've only themselves to blame for not going through. I also think a number of their players should be disciplined because of the after-match shenanigans. I still think the ref was shite though.

i don't think that qualifies us as mouthy braggarts just because we don't agree with you on how wonderful your team are..................

sanblaster 05-08-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rog (Post 110814)
Barca's so-called Skill and precision got you 1 shot on goal on wednesday and no goals the week before ....go figure:rolleyes:

AND, we have already agreed about how negative chelski were....they've only themselves to blame for not going through. I also think a number of their players should be disciplined because of the after-match shenanigans. I still think the ref was shite though.

i don't think that qualifies us as mouthy braggarts just because we don't agree with you on how wonderful your team are..................



It's just the constant murmur I'm getting from everywhere (this thread included) in this country about how weak Barça looked in this round, and how that determines a final that is going to be easily won by Manchester United, implying that Barça's game shines in Spain because the rest of the teams in the domestic competition are shite. Whenever I hear such lack of respect towards Barcelona I interpret it as bragging. I'm really sorry about that.

I think Manchester is a superb squad, as it is Chelsea (no matter they play horrible, ultra defensive football - they are really good at it) and as it is Bayern Munchen. That only but adds to the merit of what Barça is doing this year, alive in three competitions in May.



By the way, http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3955/ballackhandball.gif

Rog 05-08-2009 06:50 AM

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Barca DID NOT LOOK WEAK!!!!! they just had trouble breaking down chelski, that doesn't mean they are a weak team - i don't think they are. And as i said the Utd/Barca final should be a good one with 2 attacking teams.......and i don't think either team is gonna win easily. As for the weakness of the spanish league, you have to agree that aside from barca there isn't much else this season. Real and Villareal and athletico were just not up to scratch in the champions league.....that's what i base my opinion of the spanish league on THIS SEASON:D. I have not stated that Utd will win or that Barca will lose, as a neutral i hope its a good game. I hope that clarifies my position with you.

sanblaster 05-08-2009 07:10 AM

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It indeed did, sire. It's just that I got a little touchy after reading all the posts in this thread and your comment about only scoring 1 goal in 180 minutes. Barça has scored 143 goals this season in 54 games! It came accross as a bit unfair because I've truly known for the last two seasons what is it like to play like shit and have a squad full of selfish vedettes :P

jole 05-08-2009 07:25 AM

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These days its hard to brake any team that closes their lines especially if that team is chelsea since they have top quality players (which is the reason i dislike them so much). This wasnt a typical barcas performance, but to call them anything other then gr8 team is kinda ignorant concidering their stats this season. When arsenal or chelsea were wining premierships without a loss of game no1 said it was cause premiership was weak (except me lol).
I ll ask u this, how do u think manchester would look and play if vidic, ferdinand and rooney couldnt play against a team strong as chelsea, cause thats what barca was missing in puyol, marquez any henry.

Jason Roth 05-08-2009 12:52 PM

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Barca will crush Man U. Because I said so. Sorry Matt.
:p

edit: here are my terrible seats for the first semifinal leg @ camp nou

http://www.flickr.com/photos/38119841@N02/3512920413/

Rog 05-09-2009 12:06 AM

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what's a vedette?


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