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oceanic 10-20-2008 12:47 AM

"Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
1st Theory
"Please Help Me"... I love this song. Always have. And this "Peach Tree" track which I've, pathetically, just heard for the first time a few weeks ago - it's beyond amazing. Is there a connection between the two, though?
Think about the song names and the rhyming involved. And they're structurally, rhythmically and atmospherically similar, too. Does anyone else think that "Peach Tree" is like a spiritual successor to the classic UW track "Please Help Me"?

2nd, more ridiculous theory

This one's a bit more of a stretch, but does anyone think that "To Heal" is part two of "Please Help Me"? I mean, not only is the phrase "Please help me to heal" grammatically correct, but it just fucking feels good. And doesn't anyone think they're excellent companion pieces to each other musically?

Share your thoughts!

King of Snake 10-20-2008 01:05 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
no.

all good tracks though :)

TheBang 10-20-2008 03:36 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
I don't see any connections either, but definitely some of the better works representing UW's ambient side. I also like "Ansum" a lot.

spacejunk 10-20-2008 07:41 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
Regarding theory #2, refer here to I'm guessing a similar theory....

"Gaussian Story Arcs Divided In Drift Phase One & Two"
http://waxdj.com/djs/667/

00.00 To Heal
02.15 Please Help Me
09.19 Skym
13.10 Most ‘ospitable
17.57 Ballet Lane
21.45 Push Downstairs
27.22 Stagger

00.00 Dobropet (intro)
00.22 Headset
06.19 Ansum
11.11 Like A Swimmer
16.18 Glam Bucket
21.23 Mosaic
25.48 215 Miles
33.36 Jumbo (Jedi’s Sugar Hit Mix)

holden 10-20-2008 08:10 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
As we've heard in the recent unearthing of the pre-Dubno tracks, Underworld will sometimes recycle or rework certain elements into later tracks. And also, some works-in-progress take a while to see the light of day (e.g. "Biro the Leggy" took perhaps 5+ years to become "Beautiful Burnout"; "Always Loved A Film" has been in the works for a similar length of time).

But i don't think the rather distinct tracks "Please Help Me" and "Peach Tree" or "To Heal" share a common origin. They're similar in that they all have a deep synth pad base, but it's not the same sound or key. Yes, they mix well together, but as i've learned with a few ambient mixes, many lush tracks do dovetail well, since you needn't worry as much about rhythm and BPM.

(see: Underworld Ambient Stylee
mixed by AViD
August 30, 2007
Dinner at Rod's
Choppo
Showlder
Most 'Ospitable
To Heal and Restore
Alabaster White Thing
Quick Bit of Rope for Web
Biro the Leggy
Something atmospheric"
Bear of Man
Primrose Hill
Ansum
Ancient Fat Farm Coat

nosajmunson 10-20-2008 03:43 PM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 104030)
(see: Underworld Ambient Stylee
mixed by AViD
August 30, 2007
Dinner at Rod's
Choppo
Showlder
Most 'Ospitable
To Heal and Restore
Alabaster White Thing
Quick Bit of Rope for Web
Biro the Leggy
Something atmospheric"
Bear of Man
Primrose Hill
Ansum
Ancient Fat Farm Coat

You should repost that mix somewhere. I thought I had it saved somewhere, but now I can't seem to find it. I do remember it being a rather good chill mix.

-Jason

joethelion 10-21-2008 09:47 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
speaking of "to heal"

has anyone else noticed that bits of "to heal" sound A LOT like the outro to Cowgirl (as played on the... oh I forget which tour it was - but I think it was that first post-Emerson pre-Price tour?)

like at Ultra that year

TheBang 10-21-2008 03:40 PM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
Do you mean the organ sounds, like at the end of Cowgirl as played at 2005-08-04 Benicassim?

holden 10-21-2008 11:26 PM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosajmunson (Post 104050)
You should repost that mix somewhere. I thought I had it saved somewhere, but now I can't seem to find it. I do remember it being a rather good chill mix.

-Jason

Thanks, man....check CRAFT ;)

Meanwhile, everyone check the aforementioned similarities between "Banstyle" and "Best Mamgu Ever" - separated by 11 or so years.
We reference what we know.;)

Bongo 10-22-2008 06:37 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
that does look like a nice mix. any more of a clue about CRAFT? (sorry, moving a little slow this morning)

Bongo 10-22-2008 09:26 AM

Re: "Please Help Me" and its lost children.
 
OK. Actually registering as a complete idiot. Sorry. Ignore previous post :)


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