New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

I wanted to break this discussion out of the uwlive.com thread, because I think it deserves some more focus.

To recap:

1. New live CD's for the Oct. 31 and Nov. 1 Brixton shows are available for (pre-)order at underworldlive.com. £15 each. These will NOT be available for purchase at the show. Only on the website.
2. Those who order the CD's will be given MP3 download links within hours after the show.
3. The other purchase option for the 2 shows is WAV download which will be available on Nov. 10. £10 each.
4. Underworld will be handling distribution rather than Live Here Now (although I believe LHN is still producing the shows).
5. Old LHN shows from 2007-2008 are also available on underworldlive.com for £12 each.

Now, UW seems to have addressed a lot of the concerns (complaints?) that were voiced in the previous live cd thread. First of all, there is a download option now with the WAV's. Also, the added bonus of immediate MP3 downloads for those who purchased the CD's. Well done, I say.

Also, there's the distribution of the CD's being handled themselves (or rather, a fulfillment company), rather than the mess that Live Here Now left. I assume this is the same company that's been fulfilling orders for the rest of the merchandise on the underworldlive.com Shop, and I believe everyone that's ordered stuff so far (The Bells The Bells, etc.) has been happy with it? And it came much faster than the 3-20 weeks that LHN took?

Regarding the pricing, for the WAV download, I think it's fair. To compare, Pearl Jam was charging US$15 for FLAC shows during 2005-6 and Depeche Mode charged US$20 for lossy downloads of their 2006 shows. So I think Underworld's pricing falls fairly in there. For the CD's, £15 seems a tad high, but really nothing to complain about or make me not want to buy them. The older shows at £12 each now though are certainly more attractive. And I guess we have to remember the £15 shows come with the immediate MP3 gratification now too.

The only suggestion I have is regarding the WAV's. Pretty much all players support losslessly compressed audio these days. I don't see any reason why these shouldn't be offered in FLAC and Apple Lossless formats. If those 2 formats were offered, I think it would cover 99% of computers and mobile players, and everyone would save about 50% in disk space and bandwidth. And by offering those formats, they can also be distributed with metadata that WAV doesn't support, like Song and Artist tags and song and album artwork.

I have a feeling the Brixton shows will be something special. I'm jealous of those that get to go, and happy that those that can't go can buy the CD's.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

November first I am getting married... UW will be played at the wedding... My fiancee and I may even fly right after the wedding to see this show...

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Nice one! Congrats and great choice of wedding tunes.possible honeymoon stop!

As for the latest LHN recording, i'd go for that WAV option. Not placing too much confidence in the delivery of the discs on time. i'm happy to burn my own. ;)

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

But . . . the artwork. :( And besides, it should be fine with LHN no longer handling distribution.

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Thank you very much... It would be nice if Karl and Rick give a shout out! its looking more and more like we will have a honeymoon stop at the show!

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maybe they'll have a pdf or something for the cover, or notes..
it shouldn't be that hard to find..

later
-1

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Congrats Testudo! I will be there on the 1st and would be delighted to buy you and your intended a drink to celebrate! :D

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

A PDF is no substitute for cold, hard matter, IMO.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

this times infinity. i dont understand how a pdf replaces real product.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

so why do we put up with that for the book of jam?

it doesn't replace it, who said that? it is something that
fills the gap, instead of having nothing...

they're perfectly fine, if you want to print out your own..
and want to save money, etc..

that being said, its a trade off...get it directly downloaded,
without the risk ....

or pray, that your order will actually make it out to you.. hopefully
the same year..

later
-1

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

are we perfectly fine with book of jam pdfs? or do we always rather wish that it would all see the light of day in physical format, whether collected or individually?
i mean that pretty much proves my point, people are alwyas asking for a print version, and it's only not happening with more people because we secretly think a physical version will surface sooner or later.

and again, this is through uwlive.com.
not LHN
LHN doesn't even sell them anymore.
i live 70 miles away from the goddamn pacific and my socks got there well within 14 days.
you're shelling out a tenner for the wav just so that you can hold a bootleg product.
i mean do what you want, by all means, but assuming that a pdf and home printing is a decent stand in for the real thing is going 64kbps on the visual

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Some of us don't. ;)

Even the LHN site directs you to uwlive.com now:
http://www.liveherenow.com/Artistbio.asp?ArID=205

I'd like to think it's because UW wanted to resolve the distribution problems with LHN, but whatever the reason, fulfillment should no longer be the nightmare it was earlier this year.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

i hope you guys are right..

but i'm not going to hold my breath...

i've been burned before.. maybe you guys were lucky..

i'm going to wait it out, to see what really happens..

later
-1

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Just pre-ordered the upcoming shows, hope indeed that it will something special!
Along with those I ordered the Brussels and Rotterdam shows from last year, nice we can order all those old ones now from UWlive. Oh and the socks, didn't know they were actualy for sale. Can't wait to actualy were them :)

I don't see why anything should go wrong this time, when they sold the Tokyo-discs a couple of years ago through eBay everything went fine as well, so don't understand the worries mentioned above... (guess I understand -1 nick a bit more...)

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

ordered both brixton sets plus the last london one.
i have some catching up to do...

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Full cover art for the first night's gig up at Tomato. Looks lovely.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2...nderworld1.jpg

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Well - if this adds to anyone's concerns - I ordered 3 of the shows shortly BEFORE the site went down for maintenance for a couple days and still haven't received them.

What's that, now? 2-3 weeks anyways... I'm in Canada, don't really care, but it has been a little on the slower side. No biggie, IMHO, but passing this along for an FYI to anyone who IS concerned with slow delivery.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

so when purchased, you download the mp3s of the show as posted on the site, and receive the CDs in physical format through the post?

or just the mp3s become available?

(sorry, first time poster)

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

For the Brixton shows only, yes, if you pre-order the CD's, you get the MP3's for download hours after the gig finishes, and then the CD's show up in the mail a week or two later.

Alternatively for the Brixton shows, instead of ordering the CD's, you can wait until Nov. 10, and buy the WAV files online.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

thanks for clearing that up :D

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

ooh exciting! can't wait to see/hear how this pre-order stuff pans out! hope yer all enjoying the show!

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Any idea of when the mp3's will be ready? The setlist looked awesome. Can't wait to get the proper cd's.

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I think patience is going to be a requirement at this time in the night/morning/next few days.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

I know. I'm just impatient. Plus I'm in Oz so was hoping they might appear before my weekend was over so i could listen to them properly. ;)

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

it was either going to go swimmingly
or
there was going to be delays.
so
patience everyone

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Yes, despite my trying not to get my hopes up, I've been checking every half hour or so. I'm beginning to suspect that maybe Rick needs sleep for tomorrow's show and/or there is insufficient Internet access to get it uploaded to the server. So, I'm thinking it's possible we might not see anything until Sunday. But I'm sure they will get it to us as soon as they possibly can.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Anyone know exactly what section of your account the download will appear in?

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

hate to say it,

but why am i not suprised at the delay..

i think they were a little too ambitious in their plans..

later
-1

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

this.

Time for patience :)

EDIT: front page just updated, but still no links. anxiously excited!

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

UWlive is back up. There is an image of which can be downloaded that says:

"1st November 2008. Pre-Order bonus material available to download by 9am (GMT) 2nd November."

by definition, that's still 'just hours after' :P

I'd wager there might be some confusion now that I reread the graphic. Not sure if that is referring to the Nov 1st show, or that today is Nov 1st and both downloads will be available that time.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

hello- should be there now,
it was my bug sorry everyone
if you have any hassles with it just pm me
(maybe slow coss of traffic for a bit).

seemed the link didnt refresh from the server magic, oops.

if you preordered todays gig you should see a placeholder download- it should get update tonight to the real deal just like magic.
(puts the 'fatface tune' back in its cover)...

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

hey ant,
are you saying that last night's show should be up for pre-order download now? still not seeing it.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

i just pre-ordered both nights at Brixton ($58USD). looking forward to hearing the shows now. Peach Tree is one of my favs and the version in Brussels could have started off a bit smoother. Hopefully this one will have a clean intro without galloping beats cluttering the start.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

when you login, it should be in your download list on your account page.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

i guess i'll find this out in another 5 min but..

isnt that zip file a bit small for 2.25 hrs of gig?

edit: well i imagine some other people are wondering so some info

Bonus mp3 is all-in-one peice lasting 2:18:54 called "Live from Brixton Academy, 31st October 2008"
the quality is like that of a pretty decent bootleg. 96kbps.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Hmm. It's not appearing on my list at the moment.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

Ditto. I have a placeholder for Nov. 1 show, and nothing for Oct. 31.

Edit: Sound like potatobroth has the same as me.

Tracklist is up. Same as posted in the Moments thread:

http://www.underworldlive.com/livere...1-brixton.html

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

I have neither on my list.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

if you could pm me your underworld email grady i'll sort it asap.

Re: New Live CD's - Brixton Academy Oct. 31 & Nov. 1
 

thank you aNt.