Hot-Cross-Bunsplay
 

Yes that's right, a Coldplay thread. I've noticed all the hate, so let's debate :rolleyes:

Personally, I think Parachutes is a great album, showing Coldplay in a less mature state, making sweet music. Lyrics are creative (High Speed) and it all sounds quite honest.

I hardly listen to A Rush Of Blood To The Head but I think most of the songs are pretty good.

I didn't even bother for X&Y, it sucked, period. I enjoyed "Talk" but it is overplayed.

I haven't heard the new one, but I heard it's co-produced by Brian Eno, so I'm gonna check it out soon. I heard the new single and thought it wasn't bad.

Re: Coldplay
 

how about the new Kanye West collabo with Chris Martin? :p

Re: Coldplay
 

Um, yeah, so:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...ead.php?t=8944

I've played "Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends" about 20 times since i bought it. Really very enjoyable, probably their best record. Hooks aplenty, some nice repeated themes, a few "hidden" tracks, but concise at 40-something minutes.

Re: Coldplay
 

I'm coming ohm agaiinnnnn...

Do you ever listened to the Chris Martin production on Jay-Z' Kingdom Come ?

http://www.deezer.com/track/143964

'hem...

Re: Coldplay
 

heard most of their new album via an overzealous employee in a borders store. it was crap, as usual.
people collectively make a lot of allotments for this band. i think any group with 4 albums who arent unforgiveably bad would have to stumble on a decent hook once in awhile, but i dont see why people think theres some sort of muck they just had to pull themselves from to be good again. if i remember right, parachutes was tolerable at best, a rush of blood had 2 good songs, and everything after was just dumb. this was never a good band. this flimsy gab at "rocking out" and fiddling with your moms "world grooves" compilation proves this again. their big moment back in the spotlight is another amateur flail at icon band respectability and it stinks rotten by this point.

though it was probably the cutest thing ever when i saw a 4 year old see the cd and say "DAD LOOK NEW COLDPLAYS I HAVENT LISTENED TO"

Re: Coldplay
 

You remember (mostly) wrong :p
"Parachutes": forgiving "yellow", there are a lot of excellent tracks: "Spies", "Don't Panic", "Everything's Not Lost", "Shiver" to name a few.

"ARoBttH" had at least 7 good songs. People are distracted by the overplayed hits "In my Place", "clocks" and "the scientist". These, i admit, are kidda annoying. For me, there are higher moments in between.

"X&Y" ; i tend to agree with you that it was kinda dumb. ;)

i stand by my overzealous assessment of the new one. Drop the hate, forgive each other.

Re: Coldplay
 

when I saw the iPod commercial with Coldplay in it, I assumed it was U2. I said, "hrm, another U2 song. Sounds alright."

Then a friend had the album playing in his truck and I said, "So what do you think of the new U2 album?" to which he replied, "oh, I didn't get it." After some more "Whose on First" fumbling I realized that it was Coldplay.

For the record, I loved Parachutes but dislike all the rest that they have put out up until now. This new album is /okay/ but one listen was enough.

Re: Coldplay
 

Parachutes was an ace album and so was ROBTTH. Then its gone a bit down hill. X&Y was ok and this album is just gash. People are buying in to the marketting of it.

Re: Coldplay
 

I honestly thought their career was going to play out like Depeche Mode's a little bit, but they've disappointed where Depeche Mode got better and better.

Re: Coldplay
 

u-lite.

next...

Re: Coldplay
 

I typically set aside my personal feelings about an artist and focus on what they've created to decide whether or not I like them. But for some reason, Chris Martin's ass-face just annoys the crap out of me and I can't seem to get interested in their music at all. But I guess that might also mean that I never felt like their music was good enough to outweigh the fact that he's an intolerably irritating douche-bag.

That being said, I do actually like the song "Spies" off of Parachutes. :D

Re: Coldplay
 

you have to be joking.

Re: Coldplay
 

I don't think Coldplay's guitarist sounds anything like Edge...

Re: Coldplay
 

Yeah, he's better than the Edge!:p
Seriously, the Edge has made a career out of the 4 note riff. Catchy, yes, but brilliant? Nope. An effects processor and a plucked scale and you've got it covered.

(probably should steer clear of the U2 comparisons before this turns into another "Bono = c*ck" thread!)

Re: Coldplay
 

musically i've never liked the Coldplay sound, and as such have been on a vengeful hatefilled despising of them ever since that yellow fucking song - and the whole - 'we are better than you' attitude which has partly been overblown by the press doesn't help...

why do bands have to try and get 'bigger' than they need...

i can appreciate that they make nice tunes that people (mainly mums and dads) like, lets leave it at that - they are good musicians who make music i don't partiularly like, that said, i've not liked anything U2 have done since zooropa...

i'm never gonna be converted to Coldplay - thats not to say the should give up making music that other people like... as long as its not on the radio every fucking 5 minutes....

Re: Coldplay
 

The Tom Middleton remix of Clocks still rocks though :)

Re: Coldplay
 

well.... to me, their (Coldplay's) recent album is actually pretty good.

I say this b/c there's not as much as an emphasis on piano as on their previous efforts... not that I don't like the piano, I just think that they have the habit of overuse

also - b/c you can't deny that Brian Eno did a TON of work on the album. It has a definite "Zooropa" / second half of "Achtung Baby" vibe

it actually reaffirmed my confidence in Brian's work, as I really really really was disappointed in how he produced U2's "All That You Can't Leave Behind" ... and although I don't think he did "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" - I do remember that he worked on the track "Peace or Else" (or something to that effect) which basically sounded like a Depeche Mode ripoff

and btw - Achtung Baby -> Pop (including Passengers) were all great albums

I just think that the singles off of Achtung suffer from over-exposure (save 'the Fly' & 'Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses')... if you strip the album of those singles - it's still really solid.

Re: Coldplay
 

nope, dead serious. Viva La Vida (heard only from the iTunes commercial and having no idea there was a new Coldplay album coming out) sounded, to me, a LOT like Bono singing. It sounds EXACTLY like a new-era U2 song. I hear a lot of similarities to "Beautiful Day" in this song. I'm not saying it ripped it off, but I am saying that if this song was on the next U2 album I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised.

Re: Cold
 

:D

I guess "ass-face" would just be an insult that implies that I find even the sight of his face offensive. Although now that I think about it, that would be an insult to some fine asses that are out there in the world....:D

Wow....how'd I miss that? I don't like Coldplay, but Tom Middleton can transform garbage into gold....

Re: Foreplay
 

Ohhhhh kaaaayyyy.....

Which wiseass changed the title of this thread? I was thinking "that's a good name for a band" and it made me read the start of the thread. And then I realised it was about Coldplay and it really pissed me off.:mad::D

Re: Foreplay
 

There is a band namd Foreplay, only it's spelled FOURplay, as a pun on the number of members. It's a jazz combo, i remember my dad listening to them when i was a kid. Now he listens to drum-n-bass and Lemon Jelly records. And occasionally the "Breaking & Entering" sountrack i gave him. :D

Re: Foreplay
 

It's not that it's not beautiful, or offensive, or done with a technical proficiency... it's just sterile music. Rush Of Blood used to be a very evocative album to me, then one day the shine wore off. I still enjoy "Green Eyes" because of its general playfulness, which works, but none of the songs on that album accomplish quite what they want to. X&Y was a complete joke, nothing but pub-crawling anthems to get boozed up and melodramatic to. Parachutes was well enough, it was very pretty in spots but that album in general was again an underwhelming one. I liked "Spies" because of China's response to it but not much more than that, and I loved the Floyd-esque feel of "High Speed" but once again, the album just really fails in the idea that the emotional chord that it so desperately wants to strum, it never figures out how to do it. And the new album... well, they chose Eno I'm assuming to get a breath of new life into their music but Eno's body of work IMO is so detached that they would've been better off just grabbing the resident studio intern. Again, just a flat album that fails to deliver the shot that it wants to. But again, it's pretty in spots... technically proficient... and not offensive in the least.

One day, a far distance down the road perhaps they will grow into a band that is able to set to music the emotions that they're trying to convey but until then, they remain a gesture instead of the gut-punch they try to be on every album.

Re: Foreplay
 

Plus, Chris Martin's a tool.


:D

Re: Foreplay
 

I don't really have to like my musicians to appreciate their craft -- I think Trent Reznor's a tit on wheels but I respect him as one of the greatest composers of the last 20 years. Coldplay goes after a vibe with each song and virtually without fail, never achieve what they want. They get close, close enough that I understand that they want me to feel longing when I listen to "Warning Sign" or soft-spoken bliss when I hear "Don't Panic" but it just always sounds tired and limp.

Emotional music should startle, disarm and excite the listener. If Coldplay was successful they would leave their audiences feeling this way, and perhaps a bit uncomfortable and unnerved. But they fail to create this end result, which makes them failures in general.

Re: Foreplay
 

Agree with your sentiments, but realize that there are many thousands of fans with whom they resonate and the emotional intentions of the songs do resonate.
Maybe i'm just sappy and melancholy. But one persons trash is another's treasure. One person's boredom is another's bliss.
Perhaps some backlash is good in light of their overexposure (e.g. recall the teasing dialogue in "40 Year Old Virgin: "You know how i know you're gay? You like Coldplay."). But i wouldn't go so far as to call any band a general failure just because i didn't feel their music or thought their intention was loftier than the results. If they were musically unskilled, that'd be another thing altogether. Sure, they do a lot of posturing, but the members are always self-deprecating in interviews/in concert and admit to just making "pop songs", not trying to change the world.

Re: Foreplay
 

Ahhh, yea... all that's just my opinion. I know that musically, I'm very hard to please and to each their own on whatever they like. I like Madonna. Most people would find that hysterical but yea, it's just about what hits you.

Re: Foreplay
 

Heeey Richard!

I was about to change mine to "resident troll", but I'm too attached to the current.

Re: Foreplay
 

lol.
thread is turning into "bono, cock mk II"

i can say they're a general failure because they sound like amateurs to the end. being self-deprecating is no caveat when you're in the position to sell millions of albums and you simply cant pull yourself together to make anything more than a poor mans version of a talented band. they habitually, consistently, make disappointing pop songs and i've got every cause to say "i know from within the burning caldera of my anus that they suck" as much as you say "well they dont and you should stop"

and if that hurts some feelings well honestly its a bit of a lol because thats rather silly

Re: Foreplay
 

Thank (insert which ever $ god you worship here) general failure isn't determined artist royalty income tx.id#whatever. Are they not kind of s.load, scary rich?

Re: Foreplay
 

lol = Pretty much what i thought about you and your anus.:D
Calderas don't burn,really...they're the collapsed oriface of a volcano. i'm a geologist, so i know. If your anus is burning and caldera-like, well, there's a story to tell about that.

THink we'd better just lock this one. i'll keep listening to MoldyOldyPlay, you all keep affirming they suck. It's a win-win proposition.

Coldplay
 

New Coldplay album isnt bad imho...

Re: Foreplay
 

i'm sure if you stood at the edge of a caldera it'd be very very hot. i guess that still makes it toilet humor. which means i'm not taking it very seriously.
so i'm not locking anything, because dirty is too sensitive to vehemence, much less name-calling and rampant silliness... and frankly the more activity going on in headset, the better. getting "involved" in here, whether it's silly or not, reminds people that this forum is still here and maybe they should post more threads.
guess i'll start?

Re: Foreplay
 

You're what could be described as collateral damage. From what I can tell you're a reasonable fan who appreciates their solidly crafted hooks and harmonics. That's a respectable position, which means you get unnecessarily hurt when the true evil is confronted. The fan base who see Coldplay as no less than a modern day spiritual movement, who mistaken Chris Martin's whinery as character depth, and solidly crafted hooks and harmonics as modern love illuminated.

See if I were to play hot cross buns, it probably wouldn't offend your ears. You'd be mildly amused even. But if I cut a record of it, wallowed through a video performance, talked about the song's connection with the evils of globalization, and surrounded you with fans who cry "finally someone who understands my beautiful pain the way no one else possibly could", and figured I had enough artistic license to name my kid apple, that shit would get annoying.

Which is why no less than a 40 page hate thread is justified here.

Re: Moldplay
 

strangelet's got it

in all honestly the only thing that supremely pisses me off about coldplay is using a delacroix painting for the album cover. if you werent a dilettante you'd realize that's a hackneyed move compared to using Gericault's "Raft of the Medusa" if you were going to dive into the depths of art history for visual inspiration.
it would have been so goddamn awesome that this missed opprtunity (above the other musical ones to a lesser extent) is the only thing that makes me irrationally cheesed at them.

Re: Moldplay
 

i know you're joking and that's really funny. but I seriously am annoyed by the artwork. It takes a real genius like delacroix to make sense of something so unfathomable as "liberty."

Its not like you can't use art. Fleet Foxes does it tastefully. Their artwork shows breugel. I get it. Its rustic. They're folk music. Fine.

But delacroix grew up around the desperate cause of the paris commune stuck in finger cuffs between waves of imperialism and royalism. I figure that gives him license to say something about liberty. Using it as a ready made to express one's flatulent self importance for a product bound for starbucks. Sorry just doesn't add up.

Seriously, if Mozart had any inkling his music would soon find its post mortem life squarely in cat food commercials he'd probably just say fuck all y'all and just become a womanizer. And I wouldn't blame him. Because there are rules, dammit.

Re: Bloodplay
 

who did change the title anyways ?

Re: Hot-Cross-Bunsplay
 

haha.
not cool.