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http://www.underworldlive.com/home/fakeblood.html

This is fucking amazing. Better then the shit ones we've heard so far. There week in the studio has been worth it.

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you're in on it arent you
it's not just 3:30 in the morning
this is all an elaborate conspiracy to keep me befuddled.
clever clever well i can play this "everyone not notice this is the funniest/worst thing to ever be on UW ever" game too.

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see this is how to remix a song you fucking numbnut Laidback Luke....

top notch

whooo yeah... indeed

i so hope this is a UW own remix

(i know its elements are different to the original, but this mix is clever and well thought out - the other one is still a pile of poo!)

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I'm guessing it's by 'Fake Blood' :D

http://www.myspace.com/welovefakeblood

sounds like it's theirs, they've got quite a distinctive sound

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please stop it underworld,

this is just embarassing, and its even worse when you're promoting it
on your own site..

and you guys actually think this is better?

from the formulaic samples that we've heard so often,
to the old house beats, this justs screams derivative...

cut your losses, and just hope that these mixes never
surface......but hey maybe the artwork for the single
will be cool (cos you know i'll have to get it for that)..

later
-1

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Nothing can ever make the 'think' break acceptable in polite company!

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haha quite possible - i thought it was a sample from the song.... didn't even think it was a remixer !!!!

still i like his work....

its a matter of taste i suppose

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Strangely enough, and I am not just saying this to be contrary, but I prefer the Laidback Luke mix to this one. This one seems to be less "cohesive" and listenable/danceable imo.

All a matter of taste, as Mattelite says.

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I didn't even finish listening to this mix. Maybe it's just too early in the morning, but my ears were not being receptive.

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I thought it was kinda boring. There's a spot in the middle where the bass goes nuts and I thought it'd get more interesting, but then it went back to the same stuff from the beginning. Yawn...

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ok, after a good nights sleep i wake and find that we're seriously discussing the 'merits' of this thing...
are we for real here?
i still feel like a sucker for starting to take this remix as a real deal of any kind but if it is it'll be the worst thing that's ever had their name on it. this remix is gross and embarrassing and it makes me mad and depressed.

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i'm pretty sure Rick and Karl were expecting/hoping to see this kind of over the top response.

i'd love to hear the final sounds of my life soundtracked by the Lynn Collins/Think loop.

heavenly.

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i don't think it's anything to get overly excited about, but it's definitely better than the laidback luke one. i like the over-the-top gloss and hammy cliched sounds. it has a sense of irony, and i appreciate remixes that take an ironic glance inward.

i don't see myself giving it more than a couple of listens, but it's fun for what it is. if it came up in a club i'd dance the shit out of it.

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oh i'm sure of it, they eat this up. if it pisses someone off that means theyre doing something 'different' and probably 'interesting'

i just think it's incompetent as hell and reading that as positive feedback is being more of a troll than i'll ever be.
god, i do hate this mix though. i'm allergic to this. this is the kind of mind-numbing awfulness i always knew to avoid like death since i got my first boombox.
i keep listening to snatches of it just to... hear something different but ALL I DO IS RAGE.

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Well... erm... I have to say that I don't like this remix. At all.

:mad: but also :o

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i seriously think this remix is an attempt at raising a smile

rather than trying to produce something that fits a niche - its not supposed to be anything other than a fun mix (imo)

and judging by some of the stuff R&K play on their radio shows - they have a very eclectic [i hate that word] style /collection - and this mix, i think, is a result of that!

after all, the basis of almost all of the late 80's and early 90's remixes were sampling old tracks and 'cut and paste' jobs - no one dissed the KLF for 6 years of it - i think this is what Fake Blood has done here - and this track (of all UW's output) it works well with

i know more people are gonna dislike it because it doesn't fit in with the usual UW style but it is a fun mix and it does work

its certainly not formulaic unlike the other ring road mix - which is clearly a techno track...

keep the debate continuing ....

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oh man oh man i hope so but the typography is so serious (and so good) that i just dont know.

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I like tongue in cheek stuff.

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exactamundo.

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Well I haven't heard the Laidback Luke remix, but if this one is better, then I really don't think I need to hear it. I know it comes down to personal taste, but for me, this "Fake Blood" remix is crap whoever did it. And I just don't personally consider crap to be "fun". ;)

I used to be excited about new remixes of Underworld tracks, and I'd run right out and buy them. Now I couldn't really care less about most of them. Although Pig & Dan #3 of Play Pig was indeed a gem among petrified shit-nuggets.

And I've read all the debating here and in other threads about who these remixes are targeted at, who's using whom to help sell records, or how it's just a different style - but what it really comes down to for me is that whatever the circumstances, they should just be good mixes for crying out loud. It's a freakin' insult to those of us out here trying to get our feet in the door of the music industry by doing good work when someone with a "name" can churn out crap and get it widely distributed under the guise of being "fun" or whatever else.

Which leads me to my final point - if they're having so much trouble finding anyone to do a decent mix, then freakin' hire me and/or some of the other talented musicians/producers here on the forums. We'll gladly take a stab at it, and we certainly couldn't do any worse than the junk we've been hearing. Plus, we'd be cheap. :D

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Ew, this remix is kinda crappy. So uninspired..

But hey, it might work in a club!

Might not..

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the vocal chopping is kind of interesting but the dated samples and synth sounds are weak. not my cup of tea at all.

www.myspace.com/thenightowl

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I don't have a problem with this remix or the remix by Laidback Luke. That said, I don't particularly like either of them. I guess I am indifferent since I have so many better Underworld tracks I can opt to listen to instead. (and the live show coming up too!) I don't expect every Underworld track (remixed by Underworld or not) to be spectacular, and I think it's expected for there to be tracks every so often that can only be described as lackluster.

I just hope Underworld does a couple of their own remixes and maybe a nice B-side if Ring Road is indeed the next single. I've been hoping to get a new Best Mamgu Ever.

Oh yeah, I forgot about one thing that annoyed me about the Fake Blood remix. I really dislike that high pitched "ahhhh, yeah!" or is it "whooo, yeah!" sample; it is not fit for any Underworld song.

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you see.... while it may be fun sometimes to put on a remix of a UW tune, sit back, have a cup of tea... then stroke your chin for hours contemplating the 'meaning' of the remix, and its greater social commentary

...other times, you just want something with a load of energy, that's actually danceable


it's like COME ON - you can't tell me you guys weren't a little bored with the BB remixes? minimal tech blah blah blah - or am I the only one who's already stopped playing them?

(and I even LIKE Pig & Dan and Tiefschwarz)

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the fuck are you talking about who does this

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Everyone. Except Sean, he's just plugging himself. I always knew he was a cheap little tramp. :}

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no,

in fact, those mixes are the saving grace for this album,
if it weren't for them......every release from this album
would be considered to be a flop, (by me)..

c'mon underworld needs to wake up,
it's that simple..

at least in the past, we had a choice of good/bad mixes
(born slippy rerelease 1996(not the 2003), the pearls girl
re-releases 1996 , the king of snake re-releases 1999, etc)..

now there's not even a choice (except with beautiful burnout),
they've all been 100% horrible.

yes, there's been a lot of bad remixes in the past,
which i'll list shortly.....but that's no excuse to continue
doing them..


later
-1

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what?

it just doesnt make sense on any front.
chin-stroking? contemplating? tea? commentary? load of energy? danceable? are you saying this is actually more interesting than minimal? what? are you in on this?

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actually, i'm going to contradict myself here..

in going back, and listening to many of the early underworld,
and lemon interupt tracks, those samples and sounds are
actually QUITE APPROPRIATE, (see 'the hump', 'big mouth', etc)

however, that was , what , about 16 years ago?

so no, i don't think they're useful now, unless they're deliberately
going for that 'retro' sound...

later
-1

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guys... come on... seriously is there a written formula that says we cannot use samples from the past....?

some of us like this mix, some don't - its like almost all remixes every released.... some people like them and others don't

the track in its original form is one of the most controversial on the album anyway - with some people loving it and others hating it....

best thing to do is put up the elements of the track on uw live and get the guys here to mix it up -

no 'rush jobs' though

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oh but this isnt just the mild disappointment that comes with nearly every remix ever.
this is flat out, out and out, inexcusably bad. not just something to ignore and pretend it never happened but to actually wonder what in the fuck happened here

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I agree with dubman. I have complete confidence that I could make a better remix than this.

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Where did he sample the "wah-aaaaaaa" sound at 8s from?
I remember hearing it on a bootleg before... For example it's on Born Slippy NUXX from Reading 1996 at 13:30 shortly before the slow Rez intro begins.
By sampling that obscure UW sound alone he deserves my respect.

But I like the track anyway. As a simple statement of liking this track or not doesn't seem to satisfy some members I'd like to give some reasons:
- great use of samples. IMO the think break fits perfectly. In general I find nothing wrong or cliched with sampling. YMMV.
- exceptional use of Karl's vocals. I think it's very unusual and funny how he cut them up instead of just playing it back.
- great bass line which is modified and filtered throughout the song.
- a well thought out structure that shows that he actually cared and didn't just take a bar and loop it for 8 minutes.
- the mood. I don't see anything embarrassing in it. It doesn't always have to be the standard UW-'dark and long'-atmosphere.
conclusion: an unusual Underworld remix for sure, but I think it's a great one.

Please, I don't understand why anyone could dislike this track. Could you explain? I've never seen such a hatred against a song before, and I'm curious what the reasons for your emotional behaviour are.
Yay, a remix competition! Please UW, put some samples up!

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Nah, it's in the original Ring Road at 2:38.

Yeah, they should pull a Trent Reznor. At least with one of the tracks, and see how it works out.

As for my $0.02, the remix has grown on me, after my initial disliking reaction. It's not too bad. I do wish we could get another Remix/B-side EP in the vein of Dark & Long and Pearl's Girl.

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... shows how little I listen to Ring Road. :o Still a pretty old sample though...

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you're implying that i'm having an irrational reaction
this is not the case
let's do a play by play

intro: wrong foot already. while not bad all on its own, this sort of looped-up intro immediately signifies bad times to come. the dregs of awful club music so depressing that it sucks the will out of you. maybe it's not even euro; i could hear this on hit stations here, late at night when they all roll out their putrid "club mixes" of popular songs so bad that i fall into a resentful and protracted sourness.

from then on it fulfills its potential and skips into this lazy mix of the most ill-conceived bass, handclaps, pads, and as a final piece of this enormous terror cake, an inexplicable addition of the woefully overused lyn collins sample.

then the vocal samples kick in, and it's possibly the stupidest, most asinine thing you could do with them, crassly looping snatches together to vaguely encourage joe dickhead to bobble about and get away with it. assorted distracted samples fly in and out in a procession of foul taste and bad decisions and, in a nutshell, it's everything awful the early 90s had to offer in terms of dance music.

if i wanted dumb house i can listen to Hostage, at least his kind of wanton stupidity has the sense to have some weight behind it and be pretty fun instead of this Virgin Megastore fodder. this is like the pork rinds you find in the back of convenience stores: empty calories, weightless, and tastes bad to boot.

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To clarify my previous statement, I don't mind sampling. There is just something about this particular sound that annoys me as I have heard it way too many times and I guess I expect better from and Underworld song. Maybe it's because I associate this particular sample with generic electronic music, and consider Underworld to be better than that.

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ok, now this is really scary..

go back and listen to the last 50 seconds of 'the hump'
heres a clip:http://www.zshare.net/audio/108458097b7b57eb/


its one of those clangy,bells, whoop-whoop, whew, huh,
kind of endings with all those samples we hate so much........
could it have been intentional? (nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

later
-1

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that lynn collins sample has been in some classic tracks tho hasn't it?
rob base and dj ez rock "it takes two" "salsa house" richie rich and more recently "pussy hole" dizzie rascal. don't knock the sample,its a corner stone of dance music !

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I don't mind those as I haven't heard them in a million other songs. (at least that I can recall)

As I mentioned in your remix retrospective thread, I like The Hump Wild Beasts. I probably still would like it the same without that part at the end. I don't really like Ring Road Fake Blood, and doubt my opinion on it would change if it didn't use the "ah, yeah" sample. It's a pet peeve I guess.