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Ok

so the last time UW released a single (Boy Boy Boy) I seemed to be the LAST person who knew about it... what about this time?

quoted from another blog...

Underworld - Ring Road (Laidback Luke Remix)
Ring Road remixes EP to be released in july. on this one The Luke saves a quite boring track from 2007 Oblivion With Bells from... oblivion ah.


...I actually quite liked Ring Road

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Yer i like Ring Road to.

I cant see any decent remix's of this happening, its to strong on the vocal for it to be chopped up and spliced around.

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Could explain why I haven't seen that Red Bull advert again, either that, I was completely wrong in the first place or because I don't watch much TV.

July would be a good time to release it..

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Then I guess you must be the LAST person to know about the Beautiful Burnout single release which was the actual last time Underworld released a single. :D

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lloyd already posted this on his blog, but....

AutoKratz has it on their MySpace page that they remixed Ring Road. They updated their MySPace page a few days ago to say that their version will be released in July:
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REMIXES BY AUTOKRATZ::::::::::::
Underworld - Ring Road (Dirty Music) July 2008

http://www.myspace.com/autokratz

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Yeah, but something fun-n-dubby could be made just using the chorus and the beat, i'd bet.

But enough with the remixes...how about some UW B-Sides? The Huntemann remix of Crocodile grew on me, but i can't say i care about any of the others for that track or Beautiful Burnout.

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B-Sides Mmmm.

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oh no. Laidback Luke is the biggest bag of dutch techno boring shit you have ever heard, and I have had the displeasure of hearing... except for Marco Bailey who destroyed my ears at I Love Techno 2005 warming up for Underworld. But hey, i'll give it a listen. Maybe Laidback Luke has discovered melody ;)

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laidback luke had a respectable run in dance music back in the late 90s but i haven't followed his sound since then.

happy to hear there's another single coming out though.

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OK, I just dowlnloaded & Listened to this remix (thanks to lloyd's blog) and it really.....well...um....sucks.
It is boring as all get out. 100% Craptastic.
And I thought that before I read stimpee's post.
The beat just feels off with the vocals. And the vocals are chopped up too much. It never really gets going.

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underworld really has dropped the ball on the singles,
and releases..

when will it end??

(hopefully with the next REAL riverun release)

later
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Just did the same. And i agree. This isn't a remix, it's some crappy house track with a bit of Karl's vocal, not even in the same key, added on top. "It's a rush job" indeed.

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"its a rush job, it looks good for long enough, knock em out sell 'em, move on its a rush job...."


laidback luke takes this seriously - that just about sums up this remix

what a steaming pile of poo of a remix, its totally ruined the good elements of Ring Road imo, and its devoid of any quality - where's melody from the chorus???

if this is what the kids are listening to in the clubs, i'm glad i'm out of it...

2/10 (max)

lets hope the other mixes are much much better....

to quote more of the single - "lets have a little moan..."

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yeahhh, gotta do a big facepalm on this one.
a crap song with crap remixes all goes out on the latest single with no hint of any b-sides on the horizon.


ppppfffffffffffffftttt.

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i didn't expect to like this mix but i actually do like it. speed it up a few bpms and i can see it being pretty great on a dancefloor. pretty nice sounds imho. esp. the bit at about 4mins.

if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.

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As in, the "brown noise"? :p

Agree that on the dancefloor, this could work, but how can it be called a remix since all it uses are poorly placed vocal snippets? As an original production, it sounds like a couple half-tracks smushed together. Associating it with UW is just wrong!

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Just listening to this for the first time as I type. I love the intro (loves me minimal bumps and blops, I do).

My two penn'orth: this will really work well in a club. The build up to the second "put the world to rights, sit right back and watch it all slide by" break at about 5mins10 is gonna produce a massive hands-in-the-air moment if it is done properly.

Nice break-sy ending.

First listen nearly over, and I want to listen to it again now. :)

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welcome to post-1980s era remixes. where have you been?

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yep quite literally over the direction the remixes are taking with Underworld's good name on the line ;)

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This sounds like some dance track LL had laying around with some UW samples badly bolted on. "a rush job". nice choice of sample. Its really nothing special at all, and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

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I don't like it just because it is Underworld. I like it because I like it. You don't like it. Horses for courses.

The spoken sample could be from any other artist or poet, as far as I am concerned, as long as it had a similar impact. If it was "constructed" in the same way, I would like the tune, irrespective.

(Whether I would have heard it as quickly, or at all, if it hadn't been a remix of an UW tune is another matter.)

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totally agree. The first time I listened to this mix, I was a bit 'ehhh'

but then when I was walking down to the printmaking studio, listening to the track on my headphones, it hit me like a ton of bricks - yea... this song IS actually pretty damn good!

I wanted to run back to my apt and try and use it in a mix, asap

like that part at around 5:30 where the beat comes back in = awesomeness

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Yup.

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Yeah, like all tunes, there will be some that you like, hate or grow on you. I can see how this is a grower, but i still think it's a crap excuse for a remix. Yes, many remixes are much different from their original, but they almost always contain some elements in addition to the vocal that make them recognizeable to listeners as derivatives of the original track. That's what, by definition makes it a remix. Mixing anew some of the tracks, whether subtly or quite dramatically. Maybe Luke has disguised it well, but other than the vocal, i can't detect anything from Ring Road... not the drums, not the melody, no hooks.
Also, i think this song makes an impression at 4:00 and 5:30 whatever, because it is so different from what came before, hence my comments that it sounds like a few half completed tracks put together. But that's just my opinion.

But i think the underlying issue here, as some have already mentioned above is, why another single backed with remixes, no indication of B-sides? Maybe we'll be surprised. But the Laidback Luke comment on "Remix EP" doesn't sound promising.

Please, UW, please include something fresh and new! At this point, it's the difference between buying an import (cos you'll hardly ever find the singles in the US shops) and not bothering.

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you see... I think Luke kinda went at this remix as if he was a member of UW, turning it into a different beast altogether. Like what they did with tracks such as "Dark & Long" and turned it into "Burts" or like "Born Slippy" -> "Deep Arch"

like, what I hated about pretty much all the remixes by other artists pre-River Run 12"-es was that, they pretty much only added a few frivolous stuff on top of the track, not really doing anything new

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100% agree. what a terrible terrible bit of "music."

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It's quite simple really.

If you don't particularly like breakbeat, you probably won't like this.

If you have a preconceived hatred of the DJ, you probably won't like this.

If you think remixes should be a simple variation on the original piece, you probably won't like this.

If you think it is obligatory that a remix contain the melody and harmony of the original piece, you probably won't like this.

All these things aside, you might well like this.

Then again, you might not.

To call something a steaming pile of poo or whatever else because you don't like it is a bit of a stretch, but understandable (especially round these parts ;) ). As the French say, les gouts et les couleurs, ca ne se discute pas.

But, unless people are either telepathic or qualified clinical psychologists who have published research in the field, to suggest that the only reason someone likes it is because it has an Underworld sample in it is insulting the intelligence of the people who do like it.

What a bunch of elitist cock.

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that it's a steaming pile of poo is my opinion. it's subjective. just as it's your subjective opinion that it's enjoyable. it doesn't make anyone right or wrong, and it certainly doesn't make the criteria you laid out apply. none of those things apply to me yet i still very much dislike it. and i'm a remix junkie that can usually tolerate the most deviant take on a tune.

it's all about what floats your boat. it's not a contest to see who's right and who's wrong. like if X number of people say aye, and X+1 say nay, the nays have it. it's all just personal taste.

and i personally dislike the taste of poo. :D

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This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

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...which is a valid reasoned comment, although I don't agree with it. Thank you.

Cacophony: Aside from all the "criteria" I did also say that people may still not like it any way. I accept that entirely. I don't accept being told the only reason I like it is because it has an Underworld sample in it. That was the elitist cock to which I was referring. ;)

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without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

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Clearly we're listening to different remixes! :p
I regularly download 5-10 mixes a week from hybridized.org or Mixdepot.com, and yes, i agree with you that whilemany remixes are quite different from the originals, there are still most often more than "a few samples" or "sprinkles" left intact. Admittedly, most of the mixes i enjoy are progressive, electro or breaks sets, if that makes any difference.
but when i know the original tune, i can recognize it's essence in the remix. So, i don't think i'm being blind to remix culture, because it's not just junking a vocal on a new composition. Take most of the other UW remixes we've had by other artists since Beaucoup Fish, ten years ago till today: Most of them had quite recognizeable parts of the original in addition to the vocal...and still managed to be unique creations of the remixer.

Yes, the days of an extended mix where a lil beat or EQ was tweaked are gone. But i'd like to think that there are clever(er) producers who can work with the original tracks in a new way, rather than what LL and others are apparently doing, taking their own song and pasting a vocal on top. That seems to me a cop-out and a bit of a hanging on the coat-tails of the more famous UW to get your record played or sold. For right or for wrong.

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Underworld are using Laidback Luke (and other remixers) solid reputation to sell copies, not the other way around. It's UW who are riding the coattails of the remixers. Wighnomy/Pete Heller/Huntemann et.al were chosen because they were/are very popular with dj's. Pete Heller didn't ask to have a remix on the single so he could take some of UW's glory. UW, or their management, asked Heller (and Laidback Luke) because they liked their work and thought it would sell copies. You've got this all backwards. BTW, all of those mixers i mentioned created mixes that had little or nothing to do with the original songs other than the vocal track.

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a solid reputation of being a complete nobody to 99% of the populace? not sure i agree with your assessment.

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the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board. if you're a DJ and you don't know Laidback Luke, you don't know your history. Laidback Luke was a huge name in techno at the end of the 90s.

saying he's unknown to 99% of the populace is being willfully ignorant of the target audience for this particular remix/release.

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he's pretty hot right now in the uk and europe.

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Is it er...not coz Karlos/Ricko/Daz like said person and know they may do a semi decent job? Why not ask Simian who were meant to tour with UW, Errors or Thom York seeing UW are meant to be touring with them. They wouldn't ask me:(

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the absurdity has just peaked.

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All this does not make it a good remix. I know of Laidback Luke. I already expressed my opinion. Whatever. Its a bad remix. Thats that. In fact, this is one of the worst official Underworld remixes I've ever heard. Apologies to the Underworld guys and Steve Hall but this is a stinker. I hope it does well in the clubs but it does nothing for the reputation of Underworld and it wont sell any albums.

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the irony here, being that underworld did the exact same thing
to almost all of the remixes they did for other artists in the
mid 90's...

you can barely tell what happened to the original sounds..
from most of the mixes they put out (ie one dove, drum club,
bjork, everything but the girl, eagles prey, etc)..

(by the way, i'm a big fan of most of those though), i can't
really stand the originals for most of them...

later
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