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I'm not sure if this is a confirmation or not, but ateaseweb seems to be making a confirmation of sorts:
http://www.ateaseweb.com/2008/03/15/...for-radiohead/


too bad Radiohead aren't going to be here (ATL) on the second leg...:cool:
However, Quite happy to be seeing both (Radiohead and UW) this year!

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That is stupidly good if that is true. If so, I hope they support Radiohead when i see them in Glasgow!

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yah! fighting with Indie Fuck Douchebags for a decent spot on the floor plus 50+ dollar ticket prices. WOW. Sounds great. I can't wait.

maybe Underworld can sell some custom pegleg black pants and canvas shoulder bags for all the copy cat indie rock cocksuckers who will be showing up for Radiohead.

This will go a long way to destroy Underworld's credibility in my mind. Touring with Radiohead, and opening for them, is sad and shameful. Radiohead and the idiot fucks who think they're cutting edge need to go away and die.

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub yah! fighting with Indie Fuck Douchebags for a decent spot on the floor plus 50+ dollar ticket prices. WOW. Sounds great. I can't wait.......

So young and so angry, DAMN THAT RAP MUSIC!

Seriously though, I can't stand Radiohead. Underworld opening for them kind of hurts. If it happens, at least they are opening, so I can high tail it outta there before radiohead takes the stage.

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i bet it would be like one of those shows where the opener is MUCH better than the closing act and people would have revelations during the shows. a-men!

anyways, radioheads latest albumn is good enough so I don't hate anymore. the fans are annoying though...

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yikes. you guys are so fucking angry...

i am a huge fan of both underworld and radiohead so don't judge all rh fans based on the majority. granted, i dont fit in with your average radiohead crowd, but i dont think its fair to wish death on a group of people for liking some music.

lighten up.

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so my phone rang the other day...

*ring ring*

"hello?"

"hello alan. we are the cosmic forces that bestow wonderful things on the world. we were spinning this humongous vat of all the peoples names in the world and your name came up, so we ask you, what's a good idea?"

"um. well shit i dunno. whoever invented sandwiches pretty much gave us all the best thing possible."

"well, you like music, right?"

"only kinda."

"pfft. here's what we'll do. we're going to get two of your favorite bands, and make them go on tour together. and no, that doesnt include autechre, because they're difficult and weird."

"underworld and radiohead? that doesnt make any goddamned sense... have you seen a radiohead concert? these friggin kids! they dont dance!"

"that's why we're going to have underworld first. if they wont make them move, then no one can!"

"yeah? let's make it interesting and take some bets on that. besides, te idea of underworld opening for anyone is just weird. you dance yourself stupid to them, you can't follo-"

"NOW YOU LISTEN TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIT. HERE WE ARE ORCHESTRATING A SMORGASBORGASM OF MUSIC JUST FOR YOU AND YOU'RE COMING UP WITH ALL THE TINY PIDDLING REASONS WHY IT MIGHT NOT WORK. THIS IS WEIRD ENOUGH TO BE BOTH SURREAL AND AMAZING SO JUST PUT UP WITH IT, BUY THE TICKETS, AND GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR FOR IT."

"... well, when you put it that way... OMFG UNDERWORLD AND RADIOHEAD IN ONE NIGHT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST NIGHT EVER"

"there you go... jesus. kids these days. too level-headed."

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Well put. I'm tempted to use the dreaded LMFAO! Cos i did.

Still, i think it'll just be one of those rumors.

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sounds like a great show, the only flaw: a mass of silent people sitting on the internet and impatiently waiting with great want/NEED of Radiohead tickets. they'll sell out in the first day they go on sale, radiohead fans are like vultures ...

them and tool and nine inch nail fans ruin concert tours because they already own every ticket before you even hear about the show.

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SMORGASBORGASM is probably the best made-up word I've ever heard. Bravo.

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amen.

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But wait there's more!
IF you buy now!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...th-nude-single

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it's like this...
I enjoy Radiohead, very much - but they absolutely get over-hyped on that "experimental" front. No, "Amnesiac" wasn't experimental... it was a crap cash-in of outtakes of "Kid A" (half of which sounded like the Dark & Long and Pearls Girl b-sides)

and Radiohead fans -overall- are incredibly annoying when you give them UW music (this has happened to me at least six times). Here's two examples

Me: Oh - you like "How to Disappear Completely"? Check out "Skym"
Douche: Nah man, the RH track is so much better and more complex, you know, they added all the reverb AFTER they recorded the track, and played it in reverse...
Me: Yeah, I know... it's not that uncommon, and actually - you just heard it on "Skym" - a track, that I'm pretty sure came out first

situation 2:
Douche: Man, the lyrics to "Everything in its right place" are soooo crazy, like he's talking about oranges and shit... apparently Thom Yorke picked the lyrics out of a hat, after cutting them all up in a pile
Me: Yeah, I know - haven't you heard of William Burroughs? Or hell, even David Bowie did multiple albums' worth of material like that!
Douche: David Bowie? Fuck him, "oh oh ooooh China Girl" (sung in a mocking tone)
Me: First of all - you're an ass... secondly - you have no idea what you're talking about. Haven't you ever heard of Low, Heroes, or Lodger? Bowie & his producer Tony Visconti basically invented new ways of recording music...
Douche: Tony Visconti? never heard of him, Nigel Goodrich is the man!

I could go on... but you get the point.

That being said. I think if UW and Radiohead played live, they would absolutely have to do it together. Like - when NIN and Bowie toured together back in '95. NIN came on stage, played about an hour, then Bowie's band joined for the NIN 'encore' (playing some of each others' songs) then segued straight into Bowie's main set

this could really be good - or really bad... kind of like having french fries with mayo. You have to be juuuuust drunk enough, the mayo has to be just the right temperature, and the fries must be really hot & greasy

(hope you get the metaphor)

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so would underworld be the french fries or the mayo?

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hmm...

I guess UW would be the Fries - b/c they're almost always great, and come in a nice variety (steak fries, thin, curly, waffle, etc)

whereas Radiohead would be the mayo, b/c I'd say it's only regularly good on a turkey sandwich. Sure, it can be good on a cheese burger - but other than that... it's a bit spotty

:p

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For my two pence or pennies: I'd die to see them together. BUT I'll just have to "settle" for seeing them apart.

I've never seen Radiohead live so i'm excited, oh wait, I've never seen UW live either. Virgin on both fronts.

Re: Radiohead fans: I've never met an annoying one, however I don't really spend much time around "them" Sounds kind of stereotypical to me! :)

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um... it was brilliant? yes.

most fans that yourte talking about tend to can it if you can school them in three sentences about why they dont know wtf they're talking about.. and most 'serious' fans do the about-about face and cant wait to tell you how much they hate godrich (liiiike meeee!)

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what?

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Hmmmmm.....saw radiohead a couple of years back and lasted 15 minutes. i don't like them much at all - wrist slitting music methinks. If only rh fans get tickets then uw will bomb as the average rh fan just 'won't understand their music'.......

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yeah, i said the same, but figured he was on a tear... i just let him alone.

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In the event this happens, you should look at it like this...

Your going to a RH concert, it will be a bonus to see UW live again, but it won't be an UW concert. maybe a quarter of the people there will care for/pay any attention to UW, or even be there when they go on. Yes it's not the optimal environment to see them, but, if you like both bands, it's a win/win...

I've been to enough concerts where i hated on the headliners, and it just makes the whole experience so, so.

It is what it is... life's too short, enjoy yourself. ;)

-

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fact. ALL of "Amnesiac" was completely finished BEFORE the release of "Kid A"

fact. They played live pretty much all the tracks from both albums prior to the release of "Kid A"

option 1 - "Kid A" becomes a double-album. Which record companies hate, b/c they cost more to produce, and there's a bit of a stigma about double-disks "and that they suck" [not that I believe that second part necessarily] => solution - 'hey guys, if we just release them as two different albums, we can CHARGE DOUBLE!!!! *yay and the record comany & the band can glad hand and slap each other on the back

option 2 - "Kid A" drops some stuff, and a few tracks f/ Amnesiac hop onto that album (to me - half of Amnesiac sounds like nothing more than filler -> "Hunting Bears"? "Morning Bell/Amnesiac"? "Dollars & Cents"?) - record company & band hate this option, as they get less money, and don't have something to push momentum towards ticket sales

..and let's not forget that the reason why RH albums haven't been available digitally isn't b/c "itunes is evil" or "mp3's sound like crap" it's because they couldn't force customers to always buy tracks as "album only" - such that you couldn't buy just one song - you have to buy entire albums

and to me - "Cherry Pie" "Oich Oich" "Mos Ospitable" and "Puppies" all sound like they're in the same realm as Kid A / Amnesiac

But I really DON'T hate Radiohead. I just think that they are too oftenly given this altruistic tint over them... (and they recycle too many of their tunes)

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Knives Out is still the best Radiohead song.

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that's what i'm screaming. i don't give to farts about the "fact" crap about what was composed when. i just don't begin to see a valid comparison between these two sets of music.

and that's coming from someone whose top two favorite musical acts are 1) underworld and 2) radiohead.

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They did this with in Rainbows too and Hail to the Thief... etc... i'm not following, but that's okay. you's just cracking me up. It's okay. really.

That's cool man... it's all good baby. :rolleyes:

Radiohead/ UW/ we are family all my sisters and me!
:)
cr
an
K

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dollars & cents is an awesome song.

esp. live...

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the thing that pisses me off the most about Radiohead followers is their ignorance of electronic music prior to kid a/ok computer. they give too much credit to Radiohead for being innovators, which they are not. i saw Radiohead in 95 or 96 opening for REM and they killed it that night. haven't enjoyed anything nearly as much as The Bends but didn't fully jump ship until after OK Computer.

i understand why underworld want to kiss ass and open for radiobitch on this tour and it will probably gain them some fans, i would even go if i got a free ticket (certainly wouldn't pay the prices they'll be charging), but it's pretty much "worse case scenario" for seeing an Underworld show.

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chewbacca!

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man, looks like someone has run afoul of some online shenanigans before.

i'll just say that ateaseweb (radiohead board) has a wide demographic. many are intelligent. many many many are not. but the music forum, as contradictory and bizarre as some of the things said are, has a pretty good grip on a lot of different music. it's mostly centered around indie/experimental/electronic stuff, but there's so many members with different specialisations that you can keep yourself updated on the latest in a lot of different areas in no time. along with all the pedantry of "i like aphex twin what else is there??!!" there'll be someone else trying to generate some excitement about the new james ruskin. we also talk an awful lot about the releases everyone else gets excited about on the internet too (portishead, lidell, etc), so i'd say the breadth is about as wide as you could reasonably expect it to be.
i'd admit that none of this expansiveness was around pre-kid a, but i was a member there back then too, and the place was pretty damn small.
as for being innovators, we're slooooooowly trying to steer that ship into being "influencers within their group". they sorta made it *not* a complete geek move to put computers in your rock, and the results have only been tangentially related to what they did, but somewhat related nonetheless. i'm pretty sure if you play devils advocate and start talking about how autechre are riding the RH coattails you'll get laughed out of town.

but as for any of this relating to them two playing on the bill, none of this really matters. there'll be a small fraction, like me, who would stubbornly insist on getting it on without reservation. and then theres the other 90% who will at most migle and at worst stay put the entire time. at that point you just have to be in it for yourself and stop being such a damn baby about it.

im personally pleased as all hell this is happening. i'm a huge radiohead fan.

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LOL
brilliant move
i just got jordyroll'd?

completely uncalled for.

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http://whatwasitanyway.blogspot.com/...ohead-kid.html

i'm not alone.

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these people are a dime a dozen though, and they're one of two things:

1. old, so they *must* know better
2. the same kind of music monkeys that like to talk about how the beatles were overrated.

and they were, but they *love* to point out how they differ and in a world gone mad and in the wrong direction, they're the few keeping their heads on.
it's one of those things where that whatever good points he has are drowned in a sea of flimsy ideas that are more personal problems than legitimate ones. like how kid a has only spurred so much contempt because of how popular it got. how it doesnt have tunes people can sing along to as if it's supposed to be the simple and noble goal of musicians everywhere. if they did something a little off is it their job to make sure it doesnt go anywhere? nice try trying to craft millions of record sold to some half-baked demographics oozing cynicysm. i'm sure you'll convince all of us that we've been faking it for years now. these are the same people who'll blast the masses for popularizing shit like american idol while calling a freak shooting star "tuneless".
i cant stress enough how useless people like him are when you just look at music for what it is. their problem is a social one, and if they're talking about how creep was a fine tune in their college days they're also cantankerous and old. that self conscious jab at aging critics taking a stab at legitimising their generation with a band in their age group was a valid one. they most certainly do get shown the door. and there's yours. please try again.

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so crank ...

if I made you a birthday present, told you about how I made it, detailed the amount of painstaking work that I put into it, and then... didn't give it to you "because it was crap", then I proceeded to continually tell you about that same gift over and over again over the course of - say eight years

then after all this time - I eventually give it to you, and ... it turns out I really didn't do many (if any) modifications on that gift from its original incarnation until now

...you wouldn't be at least a little ticked?

or am I the only one who's just a bit annoyed at the fact that "Nude" doesn't really sound any different than it did back in 1997?

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the melody's the same but it's reasonably different in the details, and thats where it counts right?

i'm just glad it's out when any other band would have shelved it out of frustration.

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I don't think Radiohead are "fooocking great" and i don't think the same thing about Underworld either. Both RH and UW have some really good music and there is also the mediocrity that has exited their vaults of imagination. But the nice stuff, the creme of the crop, when played live is done with such an incredible force behind it that it leaves crowds awed and ecstactic.

Both bands create their music in a different fashion. Both bands have a relatively different audience. However, both bands attract a great number of hardcore fans who will argue to the fringes of dyslexia in order to make their point when their band's cred is in jeopardy . Here is my take on the situation: UNDERWORLD opening for RADIOHEAD. FUCKING GREAT! Awesome...i mean, really, i close my eyes and i get a tingling sensation in my cranium and perhaps some in my crotch, no homo. I don't care what kind of people are listening to UW or RH and what kind of peple will be at the concerts...there always will be douchebags and cool cats...i just know that i'll enjoy myself coming from the fact that there will be two legends of modern music on stage.

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*cough*


my god, the bigotry in this thread.


whatever happened to, "it's not my taste." rather than treating people like they're intellectually retarded for enjoying a particular bit of music?

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Well, it is true that a lot of Radiohead devotees were largely ignorant of electronic music prior to Kid A, what with that album's all but copy-and-pasting of Aphex Twin and Autechre in parts. But at the same time, a lot of those Radiohead fans became fans of electronic artists. In fact, I've had enormous luck introducing Underworld to friends who are huge Radiohead fanatics.

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so bottom line please:

Is this actually happening and confirmed?
and
Will this be solely for US cities only, or will this include Canadian stops as well?