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the mongoose 01-10-2008 12:59 PM

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Does anyone else think that it's insane that NO ONE has leaked any pics of the monster or a detailed plot synopsis? They have done an outstanding job of keeping a tight lock on it all. Bravo Paramount.;)

Can't wait to check this out finally....:cool:

Sean 01-10-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by the mongoose
Does anyone else think that it's insane that NO ONE has leaked any pics of the monster or a detailed plot synopsis? They have done an outstanding job of keeping a tight lock on it all. Bravo Paramount.;)

Can't wait to check this out finally....:cool:

It is pretty damn impressive considering how many people had to have worked on it.

mmm skyscraper 01-10-2008 01:34 PM

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of course they might never show the monster in the movie

b.miller 01-10-2008 01:55 PM

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...or if instead of a monster it's a plague...


...and Will Smith is in it...

third.toughest 01-10-2008 02:44 PM

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Will Smith is a plague!!!!!:D :p :D

grady 01-10-2008 04:37 PM

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I remember reading on a blog last summer about the design of the monster being as such that the entire film could be shot without having a final design, specifically to keep it under wraps, but also because producer JJ Abrams had yet to decide on a final visage for the beastie. But then we also might never see the thing in a shot, just glimpses scattered here and there as it wrecks havoc and CG mayhem all about Manhattan.

the mongoose 01-10-2008 06:08 PM

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Harry Knowles of AICN saw it last night and said that the monster is a grayish, yellowish off white four legged beast with eyes that look like the dead horse in Animal House. Said he had a hard time describing it b/c it doesn't look like any other movie creature.:cool:

GforGroove 01-11-2008 07:20 PM

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i want to see it so much.

gillenium 01-11-2008 07:20 PM

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Why would anybody want to know what it looks like? Isn't the surprise part of the fun of a movie?

All this pre-movie buzz is killing movies for me nowadays.

King of Snake 01-12-2008 02:59 AM

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the trailers i've seen for this look pretty hot.

Stephen 01-12-2008 12:00 PM

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I think this looks good. Looks like it might actually be scary even if it is in a 'perillous' way.

Jafs 01-12-2008 02:46 PM

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Show-not show is the Abrams speciallity.

So, not particularly surprised about the monster. However, I'm really awaiting this movie !

holden 01-13-2008 06:14 PM

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There are some conjectural spoilers of the monster on YouTube. Still, the less you see, sometimes, the better/scarier.
E.g. the first "Alien" and even "Signs" freaked me out for this reason.

The effort to make up a back story and the viral marketing strikes me as this millenium's "Blair Witch Project". Of course, once that movie came out and totally blew, the magic was gone.
Still, i'm excited for Cloverfield to come out!

Bargo 01-17-2008 07:16 PM

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Saw it today, holy shiiiiiit. This movie may not have much of a point, but it doesn't need one, it's just one hell of a ride. I left the cinema with nerves trembling. The whole thing was nothing short of exhilerating. I really don't know what other review cliches I can say, it was just really, really, really good.

Plot-wise there are numerous moments where some of the actions and decisions of the main characters would leave me thinking "oh come ON that is bullshit", but then it would be followed by some phenomenal piece of action and that made it all better. :o

One to definitely see in the cinemas, don't let your first experience of it be on DVD.

Winston 01-18-2008 09:10 PM

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counting the days....

GforGroove 01-19-2008 12:01 AM

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argh.. it was sold out EVERYWHERE in this freakign city!!.
anyway i ended up watching "There will be blood"
(so good)
il try to catch it tomorrow.

gillenium 01-19-2008 12:13 AM

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It was an amazing movie! Although it is more of a thrill ride than an actual film.

A bunch of people in my audience boo'd the ending. I think they might be stupid, because I thought the ending was perfect... What are people expecting from this flick, exactly?

SCARY!

Scott Warner 01-19-2008 12:17 AM

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Well I'm not stupid enough to boo but I am dumb enough not to have had a good time. :) I found this movie pretty annoying overall.

EuroZeroZero 01-19-2008 01:26 AM

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I dont wanna go through the thread in case of spoilers. but can anyone tell me exactly how bad the shakycam is? bourne made me sick.

gillenium 01-19-2008 02:10 AM

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It bothers some people more than others. It didn't bother me at all, but some kids were complaining about it on the way out. I thought it added to the movie a lot. By the way, I hated the Bourne super-shake cam, too.

Ally 01-19-2008 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by holden
"Signs"

Absolutely! At the bit when you see a grainy glimpse of one walking past the window during the kid's party I actually leapt up and gave it "waaahh!" :D

Hadn't even heard of Cloverfield until I got turned into a wreck by the trailer when I went to see Aliens vs Predator last night, looks great.

Scott Warner 01-19-2008 08:25 AM

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but can anyone tell me exactly how bad the shakycam is?
It's part of the point of the movie so it's pretty shakey the whole way through.

Sarcasmo 01-19-2008 10:47 AM

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It's part of the point of the movie so it's pretty shakey the whole way through.

Saw this last night, and I'm still on the fence on it. I left kinda shaky, but that was because the camera work gave me motion sickness. Any scene where these kids were running made me want to close my eyes.

Another thing, the cameraman's voice got really really annoying in a hurry. I understand that this is supposed to feel like amateur video during an actual disaster, but hearing his voice scream the same thing over and over into the tinny mic made me want to punch my eardrums with a sharpened pencil.

I gotta give the movie props on a few things though. One: The no-name actors actually did very well. Two: The pacing was excellent. Three: The movie's budget was around 30 million dollars, which is incredibly impressive considering it's scope. This movie is going to turn a huge profit, and it's going to show that hollywood can make a quality film without a bloated budget and stacked cast.

the mongoose 01-19-2008 12:08 PM

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*******FULL ON SPOILER MODE BEWARE********

Not digging the monster, a stupid fish/frog/lizard thing.....he/she/it is just not scary or interesting in any way. I was shocked at how bad the effects were (with the exception of the Subway attack) and how little screen time the monster had (4 minutes).
The whole movie is only an hour and 10 minutes long and even that felt like an eternity with these unlikeable Tommy Hillfiger fucks holding the camera and saying dumb shit. Glad they all died!:D
B movie marketed like an A movie.:(

I did enjoy some parts of it though:
the subway attack and the results of that bite
the military going up the street scene
the "trailer sequence"
the nod to Godzilla with the tank vs. monster foot
some of the 3rd wall camera trickery stuff.

cacophony 01-19-2008 01:12 PM

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I left kinda shaky, but that was because the camera work gave me motion sickness. Any scene where these kids were running made me want to close my eyes.

oh man, me too. i haven't had motion sickness from a movie since dancer in the dark but this was like 10 times as bad. i actually had to leave the theater at one point because i thought i was going to barf. then when i came back i ended up watching the rest with my hand blocking the screen and fixated on a stable point on the floor so my stomach wouldn't empty its contents.

i told my husband on the way out, "that was the best movie i didn't see."

i enjoyed the movie itself, what i heard and the snippets i was able to watch. i just think i would be happier watching it in my living room with enough stable environment in my peripheral vision to keep my stomach calm.

the mongoose 01-19-2008 08:52 PM

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This is the actual look of the monster in the film (but the concept art here looks ten times cooler than the random glimpses you see in the film):

Click (spoiler pic beware)

joethelion 01-20-2008 12:24 PM

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so basically....


all this is - is just what you'd get if you crossed "The Blair Witch Project" with "Godzilla" then... right?

the more I see previews for the film, the less I'm inclined to see it
...as I thought Blair Witch was possibly the most pointless movie I've ever seen

...oh no wait... the sequel to that movie was the most pointless - but you still catch my drift

holden 01-21-2008 11:14 AM

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Before the release date, with the details of the "plot" and monster still hidden, i did a little surfing of the viral websites attached to the film, e.g. "Slusho" frozen drinks, Tagruato exploration, TidoWave environmental activists, JamieAndTeddy.com
(you can find links and read more here:
http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/ )

In this respect, building the backstory on the internet is interesting and enjoyable to be able to make some sense out of the movie, which doesn't give you a lot of explanation. Too bad they didn't work more of this back story in...maybe they're waiting for the sequel!

the mongoose 01-21-2008 12:12 PM

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all this is - is just what you'd get if you crossed "The Blair Witch Project" with "Godzilla" then... right?

Right. A seventy minute Blair Witch with 4 minutes of monster that makes Godzilla seem scary again.:(

Some parts are wicked and really well done, but other than a few moments, it's a boring tour around New York with some yuppie scumbags who do dumb stuff like run into collapsing buildings....:rolleyes:

stimpee 01-21-2008 12:38 PM

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How to make your dirty spoiler tags

IsiliRunite 01-21-2008 01:11 PM

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It's not like Godzilla as much as it is the Jurassic Park theme park ride.

cured 01-26-2008 10:08 PM

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I really enjoyed the movie. With all the warnings of the shaky cam, we sat in the very back of the theater and it wasn't too bad. Loved it. Gave a very drawn-in feel to the movie and you knew just enough about the characters to understand the motivations for doing what they did. The monster was pretty nice, too.

GforGroove 02-01-2008 10:35 AM

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worst movie i've seen in a while.
the background is sort of itneresting but is totally blown away not by the monster.. but by the stupidity of the characters.

" MOM. is jason is dead" hahaah.... I spend the whole movie laughing crazy... is so stupid you cant get excited...

i still can't believe how bad it is....

potatobroth 02-02-2008 01:49 PM

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i liked it a lot. did you expect a literary masterpiece adapted for film? fuck no, you expect to see a big monster eat a city as seen through the POV of a video camera. its not a top-10 movie for me, but it was certainly fun and worth the admission price.

Stephen 02-03-2008 11:35 AM

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Just seen this and I thought it was great.

Scott Warner 02-03-2008 11:51 AM

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did you expect a literary masterpiece adapted for film?
I see this opinion a lot in defense of this film: "What did you expect?"

Have you ever seen 'Alien'? That's what I expect. There's the bar. To paraphrase Ridley Scott, a low budget but well crafted b-movie.

Or more specifically, I care when every single character in 'Alien' dies because all of them are likable in their own ways. In 'Cloverfield' I could care less because none of the characters are likable at all. It is story development 101: I HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THE CHARACTERS IN ORDER TO CARE ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS.

GforGroove 02-08-2008 08:21 AM

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did you expect a literary masterpiece adapted for film? fuck no, you expect to see a big monster eat a city as seen through the POV of a video camera.

No, but at least give me a good POV camera view. You can play video games if you want to see things blow, mosters eating cities and just a robot with no brains running.. and it makes way more sense. This movie does not make sense at all. I think this "videogamish" format is kind of interesting in film though..videogame to screenplay. but im not sure if its that entertaining.. 11.50 for admission for a cheap comedy has never been cool with me.
cloverfield super sucks.

potatobroth 02-08-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Warner
I see this opinion a lot in defense of this film: "What did you expect?"

Have you ever seen 'Alien'? That's what I expect. There's the bar. To paraphrase Ridley Scott, a low budget but well crafted b-movie.

Or more specifically, I care when every single character in 'Alien' dies because all of them are likable in their own ways. In 'Cloverfield' I could care less because none of the characters are likable at all. It is story development 101: I HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THE CHARACTERS IN ORDER TO CARE ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS.

Yeah, it was a cheesey defense, but I wasn't really defending the movie. I know a lot of people that hated it and their reasons are spot on. Its not a great movie, but it was still really enjoyable for me. Its the same reason I love horribly stupid horror movies or disaster movies, sometimes its just fun to watch things that could never happen.

I didn't feel bad about the characters because this is a 1.25 hour blurry destruction movie. Its not like Magnolia where I cry for each character's dilemas. It's not like Alien where I hold my breath worrying about the feelings of the crew as their friend dies from an alien bursting out their stomach. And although the only time I felt bad in CLOVERFIELD was when Marlena died, I still enjoyed the movie a lot.

Enjoyable doesn't always have to equal good. There are plenty of movies that I enjoy watching but when broken down, are just not good movies.

This movie wouldn't have worked for me if it was shot traditionally. I've thought about this and came to that conclusion. What makes it fun for me is the dizzying glimpses and losing-battle aspect.

@Gof
What doesn't make sense? Rather, I thought a large part of this movie was that you didn't know where it came from, why its there, and what it's doing outside of when the 5 kids interact with it. Making sense doesn't factor in when you aren't being told details. That was a nice touch I thought. Rather than having some mega-scientist giving a 10 minute diatribe on where it came from and how to defeat it, it added to a faux realism for the video camera. Again, its not a GOOD movie, but its a FUN movie and one I would recommend for that reason alone.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 02-08-2008 09:10 AM

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Spirits In the Material World

Ally 02-09-2008 03:32 AM

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I thought it was wicked - the most thoroughly entertained I've been in the cinema in a long time. I did well to avoid all exposure to it in the week from when I first saw the trailer cme out at me from left field to going to see the midnight showing. As such everything was a surprise to me, I nearly lost my shit when you saw the things falling off it... Five stars.


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