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holden 11-14-2007 08:23 AM

Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Rick and Karl, if you read this, please know that you have some of the most devoted and appreciative fans. Your output has been prolific and your generosity unbelievable. So, thanks again from the bottom of our dirty hearts!

We also understand that there are businesses to run and mouths to feed, so we don't expect everything given to us for free. Free is nice and grand, of course, and through your radio broadcasts and UnderworldLive, we've received a lot of tunes and happy memories.
But we've also heard snippets of studio works (e.g. "Always Loved a Film") or live tracks (e.g. "You Do Scribble", "Darc"), that have made deep impressions on us.

So, rather than the usual threads where we say "Gee, it would be great if R&K released "X" or the like, here's something of a petition from the fans, that we'd willingly support the band monetarilyif these tracks were released, perhaps as the next RiverRun download project or via your label, whatever method is most efficient. We're not dirty greedy dirts. We just love Underworld so much we crave tunes. I think we're addicted.
:)
Dirties, pledge your continued allegiance and make your virtual request for official (purchaseable) release of UW's B-sides and rarities!

negative1 11-14-2007 08:44 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
how are those options different?
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ultradave 11-14-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
...like an addiction... boy, boy, boy; do i love underworld! thanks to rick and karl for all your hard work and creativity.


now playing - holding the moth - uw

...with a glass eye on you... electric eye on you...

cacophony 11-14-2007 09:00 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
how are those options different?
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my thoughts exactly. since the OP pointed out that only UW would be able to determine which option was most financially feasible, why should we petition for either one?

i think if the poll were "would you be willing to pay for the release, yes/no?" the answer would be unanimously "yes."

holden 11-14-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
That's the point, though...this is hopefully just to show in numbers that we're willing to pay and don't expect everything for free. I was being cheeky with the options, but think of this as a petition where your signature is a vote for "yes" or "yes"!

BeautifulBurnout 11-14-2007 09:41 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
<posts blank cheque to Lemonworld>

King of Snake 11-14-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
If they would make some kind of compilation of these (and other) tracks a-la riverrun I'd definitely pay, and would be glad to pay a bit more than the riverruns (would be nice to maybe offer FLAC versions for a slightly higher price as well). Would be cool to have these tracks released also so we can get to hear dj's play some original underworld tracks again rather than just remixes (obviously none of uw's recent output has been particularly dj-friendly, although there were definitely some great remixes)

GoatSucker 11-14-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Yes, I'd definitely vote with my wallet, too.
Nice of Rick to put the record straight about download quality as well - i.e. Rick wants the highest quality out there, Karl/Management think 192Kbs is sufficient.

negative1 11-14-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake
Would be cool to have these tracks released also so we can get to hear dj's play some original underworld tracks again rather than just remixes (obviously none of uw's recent output has been particularly dj-friendly, although there were definitely some great remixes)

isn't the point of making mixes, to make dj's want to play them?

why would they want to play album tracks? (maybe dinosaur adventure 3d
was the last, and before that king of snake...but pretty much they have
all been playing remixes)..

later
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Blueski 11-14-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
I would love to have those tracks in studio quality.

But it seems only fair to have it like it is;
da best. : and the mistery about some unreleased tracks is good. We are lucky to be treated like we are treated.

We are spoiled fans. Rick and Karl are too good.

What band does live broadcasts now and then and updates their website DAILY?

I think Underworld are the only one up there.

THE best band in the world.

aaron5000 11-14-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
voted

stimpee 11-14-2007 12:32 PM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Here is a man who speaks very wise words. I have never been treated so well by any band. We are very lucky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueski
I would love to have those tracks in studio quality.

But it seems only fair to have it like it is;
da best. : and the mistery about some unreleased tracks is good. We are lucky to be treated like we are treated.

We are spoiled fans. Rick and Karl are too good.

What band does live broadcasts now and then and updates their website DAILY?

I think Underworld are the only one up there.

THE best band in the world.


cacophony 11-14-2007 01:54 PM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueski
We are lucky to be treated like we are treated.

We are spoiled fans. Rick and Karl are too good.

What band does live broadcasts now and then and updates their website DAILY?

I think Underworld are the only one up there.

THE best band in the world.

hear hear!

dubman 11-14-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
imagine a riverrun of darc, ALAF, and bamboo...

hohohoho

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 11-14-2007 11:24 PM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Actually I kind of doubt this will happen, I think those tracks are great enough to see the light of day on the next studio album :) But I would definetely support it, I've got bootleg quality versions of "Scribble", "ALAF", and "Darc" topping my UW 'most played' list....

idoru 11-15-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueski
I would love to have those tracks in studio quality.

But it seems only fair to have it like it is;
da best. : and the mistery about some unreleased tracks is good. We are lucky to be treated like we are treated.

Pretty much. I certainly wouldn't complain if they were available for purchase, but these tracks, along with others like You Do Scribble and Bamboo, have more "oomph" and interest in them because they're unavailable and the boys surprise you whenever they play them. I'd have them on repeat far too much and it would ruin the awe that they have as unreleased material.

Just my $.02

TheBang 11-15-2007 12:58 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
OK, I've got a few comments and an idea.

To answer some of Underworld's questions during the broadcast:

1. I don't think the Dirties want everything for free. I would pay a few bucks for high quality downloads of unreleased tracks.

2. Book of Jam. I think some of us would pay for that too, thought not as many as for the music, I'm sure. I bought Skyscraper and Belly though, and I was looking forward to Book of Jam. Sounds like it's going to be a PDF release now, but I will buy the print version if that ever comes out.

3. Broadcasts? Yes, we like them! Keep them coming. I've gotten up at 3 AM for the last 2 broadcasts.

Now for my idea. I was musing about the comments during the broadcast about releasing music and paying for it and such, and thinking about the wealth of unreleased material there is (200+ songs from the past 4 years), and came up with this.

How about a Song of the Month club? There are a lot of ways to go about it, but the basic gist is to release one unreleased track per month. Maybe you could do it on like a subscription model. For example, members sign up for a subscription, and get charged something like £2 per month and each month they get a FLAC download of an unreleased track. And maybe the tracks are only available that month, or maybe they go into a Store archive where people can then go purchase them later. Maybe do an annual subscription option too for £20.

Another possible twist is to release the song for free at 128 Kbps MP3 in the Members section, but then make the FLAC's available only to the £2 subscribers.

Anyway, just some brainstorming I had about how to get some of those unreleased songs out there. I really want to hear some of the songs. My co-worker mentioned that Underworld songs are really great to listen to while riding the Shinkansen, and it made me wish that I could listen to "Bullet Train to Kyoto" while I'm riding from Tokyo to Kyoto next week. I guess I'll have to settle for listening to JAL to Tokyo on the flight over (which is on JAL :)).

King of Snake 11-15-2007 01:24 AM

Re: Sincere thanks to UW: we'll pay for it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by idoru
Pretty much. I certainly wouldn't complain if they were available for purchase, but these tracks, along with others like You Do Scribble and Bamboo, have more "oomph" and interest in them because they're unavailable and the boys surprise you whenever they play them. I'd have them on repeat far too much and it would ruin the awe that they have as unreleased material.

Just my $.02

uh, that's just weird... having it released ruins the experience for you? Sorry but I don't see how that should make any difference and how anyone could advance this as an argument not to release something.

Quote:

I would love to have those tracks in studio quality.
But it seems only fair to have it like it is;
da best. : and the mistery about some unreleased tracks is good. We are lucky to be treated like we are treated.
We are spoiled fans. Rick and Karl are too good.
What band does live broadcasts now and then and updates their website DAILY?
I think Underworld are the only one up there.
THE best band in the world.
yes great, but you're preaching to the choir here. I don't really buy the "we should all be so thankful and we're all so spoiled that it's unfair to ask for anything different/more" argument. Of course we should all be very happy with what UW are giving us, but at the same time we are their customers, we are the ones buying their music, so can we then not voice our opinion on what we would love to be able to buy? The boys have stated on multiple occasions that they like to have feedback from the fans, that's the whole point of uwlive. They have also stated that there will be more downloadable tracks on uwlive following the release of OWB. We just don't know which tracks they will be (although I think You Do Scribble was mentioned). In the end they can do whatever they want of course but that shouldn't stop people from making requests. (hey, some years ago I campaigned on this very forum for Spikee to be played live again, and it worked! :))


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