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The Official OWB Thread
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as the UK release date (16/10/07) looms here's the official thread for Underworld (Mk. II's) fifth studio album: OBLIVION WITH BELLS i know there are other threads on OWB, but lets talk about it here in one place here's the complete list of tracks that are doing the rounds from the current OWB sessions: CD1. The Album: Crocodile - 6:30 Beautiful Burnout - 8:09 Holding The Moth - 5:29 To Heal - 2:36 Ring Road - 4:31 Glam Bucket- 5:45 Boy, Boy, Boy - 6:05 Cuddle Bunny vs The Celtic Villages - 2:22 Faxed Invitation - 4:44 Good Morning Cockerel -2:28 Best Mamgu Ever - 8:42 + Loads of Birds (Japan ONLY) cd exclusive other released / forthcoming tracks from this album (session) are: crocodile - radio (single) edit - 3:50 - cd crocodile - album (lp) version- 8:57 - cd/12" crocodile - oliver hunteman remix - 8:35 - cd/12" crocodile - oliver hunteman dub - 7:26 - cdr crocodile - pete heller remix - 7:33 - cd/12" crocodile - ame/innervision orchestra remix - 10:31 - cd/12" crocodile - pete heller dub - 8:58 cd/download peach tree - uk crocodile CD single - 12:35 - UK cd furture releases: * ring road: ring road - simian mobile disco remix - time unknown cdr - due to some issues this remix is not coming out / being released / recorded * beautiful burnout: beautiful burnout - mark knight remix - 8:48 cdr beautiful burnout - mark knight dub - 7:46 cdr beautiful burnout - pig and dan remix - 7:24 cdr beautiful burnout - what dog mix (aka - barney the leggy) - 10:11 members only download beautiful burnout - tiefschwarz remix - 9:17 cdr beautiful burnout - javier haedo fabric of dreams main mix - 12:29 - unknown origin possible bootleg? beautiful burnout - javier haedo holding deep stars in my room mix - 9:44 - unknown origin possible bootleg? beautiful burnout - javier haedo holding deep stars in my room dub mix - 11:20 - unknown origin possible bootleg? * boy, boy, boy: boy, boy, boy (switch remix) - 5:38 cdr holding the moth (jesse rose mix) - 5:23 (mix time tbc) boy, boy, boy (video) - time unknown cdr peach tree (different version) - 12:35 cdr crocodile - single release date: 12/09/07 (Japan) / 08/10/07 (UK) album release date: 03/10/07 (japan) / 16/10/07 (US) / 16/10/07 (UK) boy, boy, boy - single release date: unknown beautiful burnout - single release date: unknown bonus OWB DVD contents Crocodile (DVD) Underworld Live In Tokyo (DVD) BGM - Boy, Boy, Boy Metal Friend (DVD) Oblivion With Bells (Abbey Road Recording Session) (DVD) BGM - Globe Good Morning Cockerel (DVD) Rez - Live Show Visuals (DVD) The Book Of Jam, Art Jam (DVD) BGM - Faxed Invitation other bonuses: US only exclusive OWB T-Shirt (purple) + downloads Book Of Jam Download - PDF File - UWlive members only Book Of Jam Download Par 2 - Book Of Japan - PDF File - UWlive members only Oblivion Ball Japan Live CD- details to follow i will add anything related to OWB to this tread, and when the album comes out - you can talk about it here.... it's all good... so enjoy it... |
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Regarding the henrik schwarz and dixon remix. It is mentioned in an interview with Ame ...
Dutch "We zijn gevraagd door Underworld om de single van hun nieuwe album te remixen, samen met Henrik Schwarz en Dixon. Het origineel is al heel erg goed - een soort discohousekraker - dus dat wordt een leuk project." English translation "We are asked by Underworld to remix the single from their new album, together with Henrik Schwarz and Dixon. The original is very good - sort of a discohousestomper - so that will be a nice project." Source : http://www.djbroadcast.nl/features/f...wantiteit.html So ... i'm not sure if Ame was talking about HS and Dixon remixing Crocodile. I can not see the disco/house reference to Crocodile. === Edit === @ big screen satellite 10.33 Quentin is a NYC house producer/DJ (think Erick Morillo-style). I think he is asked especially for the USA market. Just like Ame he mixed a "Coast2Coast" compilation with deep groovy tunes. I totally agree with the Ame statement. Best remix so far ... |
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likewise, i'm not sure what track Quinetin Harris has mixed as he's classed as hip hop, jazz, electronic according to Discogs...but is classed as Deep House on his myspace page... it is quite possible that there are some session tracks not on the album that these guys have remixed that will be on future singles / releases - who knows (yet) |
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i believe there is also a pete heller dub mix of crocodile which i'd like to hear... http://www.music.co.jp/mobile/yougaku/uw/index.html :) |
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it has the tracktimes also. - bonus track that is...
Yeah I've seen the pete heller dub too but it's nowhere to download or buy? |
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i've updated the original post - thanks for the linky
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i'm wondering if there is a heller dub or if the Huntemann dub is confused with it... this is possible
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seems to be a mistake, http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/newrelease.html and all other sites list it as the Oliver Huntemann Dub
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Sorry if this is old news, but it seems Boy, Boy, Boy will be the next single: http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2632360
Anyone got more info? Tracks, etc.. |
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ugh, really...
thats the worst one on there |
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agreed, although there isn't really much single material on the album anyway.
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in your opinion. i love Boy Boy Boy. took me a bit to get used to it but it's a great song. in my opinion of course ;) |
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but the strings! why the strings?! it's so hokey! and the beat is borrrring....
ah well. |
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for me it's about the lyrics and the delivery
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boy boy boy sounds great to me.
ring road is worst. best mamgu ever is best mamgu ever. |
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RING ROAD is my fav...then Mamgu...
Boy Boy Boy sounds a bit like robbie williams in places... although i like it, its a bit, musically, like the monster soundtrack by BT |
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HA! i haven't heard a thing off of this record, other than what they made me listen to at the live show damn it.
I'll have none of it till the disc shows up. |
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Ring Road and Boy Boy Boy are going to divide fans. those fans who suck and have no taste will complain about them. those fans who are remarkably handsome with impeccable taste will love them.
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Holding the Moth would stand well on its own, but I might think that just 'cause I love it so damn much.
OwB is on the ambient side of things and clearly doesn't have your typical Underworld single on it. The trick is figuring out how to hook new listeners onto what is really a subtler, more textured output from the band. |
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I personally prefer the ambient and experimental side of Underworlds music best.
I think 'Good Morning Cockeral' sounds ace. |
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Been listening to this album constantly before i bugger off on holiday. All i can say is that this album is pure class.
To Heal is just an amazing song. If they played it in london, id be perfectly happy to walk out after. It just sends the chills up and down. The most lush piece of music which needs to be longer. Sorrry, im slighly drunk, but i dont care! Holding The Moth needs to be the next single. |
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Well i've not heard a thing from it thus far, not even the single so i'm quite excited about the album. One thing that does annoy me though is bonus tracks on, for example, the Japanese disc- why on earth would they not put it on all the discs? I've spent far too much on limited Underworld CD's as it is and the trend is becoming annoying!
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i love the music for ring road.
not a huge fan of the vocals on RR, but thats okay because it is literally the only fault i find with the album. that and To Heal is too short. |
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Ring Road is pretty awful imo, and so is Boy, Boy, Boy for that matter. However, I love Good Morning Cockerel, Holding the Moth should be the next single, and Beautiful Burnout after that.
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Cuddle Bunny is the worst track without a doubt (but it has elements from RiverRun that make it tolerable I suppose).
Ring Road is the worst "song" though, cause Cuddle Bunny isn't one. :p RR has nice moments to it, but it's too ackward for me to actually relax and enjoy it. "it's good food, but your clothes come out smelling like grease":rolleyes: The chorus is good however.:) Boy Boy Boy rocks! It's what Trim should have been years ago. Love the darker lyrics for a change too. Drive faster.:cool: Good Morning Cockerel is very good and reminds me of nice ambient stuff like maybe BlueSki perhaps. To Heal and Restore is just okay, but under the right circumstances.....mmmm. Best Mamgu Ever is probably the best song in terms of production and the "wow that sounds cool" effect, but the chopped vocals have worn thin after a couple of listens, so my personal favorite has now become... Faxed Invitation. "Deep Voice" + that synth part = bliss. Holding the Moth was terrible on first listen, but now that I've heard it a bunch I can't get the "Glass Eye on you, Electric Eye on you who loves to be touched with a Glass Eye on you" stuff outta my head. Remixes could be awesome. Glam Bucket's first couple of minutes are lush, but once the shrill synth stabs start it's time to skip to the next track fast. Shame, it has such potential to be a classic.:( Beautiful Burnout is Biro the Leggy and Crocodile is Crocodile;) Overall, it's a solid cd that flows very well and really has something to please everyone. B rating so far. |
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As described to a friend of mine...
At first listen this album easily catches you off guard. It's quite the depature from their previous work. With that...after listening to it in it's entirety, probably over 20 times already, I can easily say it's a lush piece of work from start to finish. There isn't one track I'd skip and I think it's one of the most interesting and experimental pieces they've made yet. At first I was hoping to hear more "dance anthem-esque" (ie rez, born slippy, pearls girl) tracks after the ambient/minimal style of the River Run projects, however with how OWB comes together they wont be missed as much as one would think. Even so, with UW's vast back catalog, this is just another gem to add to the collection. Current favorite: Best Mamgu Ever waiting to hear "Loads of Birds"... |
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Totally agree, qirex.
This album (especially Ring Road) reminds me why I love UW.. You can assemble Karl's fragments in so many different ways, just listening to them is a unique experience from one person to the next.. it's very challenging but very rewarding and personal for the listener as well. Rick's hypnotic grooves set the stage for a higher (lower?) level of consciousness... and that's why I love UW.. that's why I love this album.. Cheers to the boys for creating another fantastic one. Keep on keeping on. Well there you have it.. my own mini-review. Another gem to add to the collection, indeed. (BTW, huge wipeout fan here as well :) ) |
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album reviews also posted here if we find any....
from Novermber 2007 FHM: going againts the culture of downloading, this album works best as a whole. tracks such as crocodile owe much to brian eno, but the ambient noodling soon gives way to ring road - a ranting, stream-of conciousness anthem, more in tune with older tunes like diry epic. best song: holding the moth, an instant early 90's rave flashback *** 3 out of 5 stars erm did they just rip off most of the press release....?? lol anyway its the first mag review i've seen |
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great albumn, the first three tracks are all fantastic, and it works amazing. the track that i still don't like is ring road. i love boy boy boy, but ring road is so awkward. "sec-ur-i-ty" sound so un musical...
anyways, i am pleasantly suprised and i think it's SO cool that they didn't use anything from river run event though each one of those have one or two songs that would be stellar/nock-out albumn tracks. lovely |
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Had a couple of more listens and it's funny, while I first really wasn't into Ring Road and Boy, Boy, Boy... now I can't get them out of my head!
I think Underworld deserves respect for putting tracks like these on the album, instead of a track like Darc (which would go better with for example Crocodile and Beautiful Burnout). Still, Darc would've been cool, but you don't hear me complain. I love the album now! Faxed Invitation is still sounding "meh" for me, although I noticed some of the layers and build-up that make it interesting. So maybe it might grow. And still, the singing/melody on Crocodile at 4:24 and the ambient part with the lyrics on Beautiful Burnout are the best things ever!!!!! |
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Faxed Invitation is one of my favourites right now. I really wish it was a bit longer. At the end it sounds like it could build into something even better but it just ends there sadly.
The first 4 tracks of the album flow really well and they're all very good tracks. Again, I thought To Heal could be a bit longer, and maybe have retained some of the vocal sample but it's still a beautiful piece. Ring Road is ok, I really like the chorus part but I'm not totally digging it as a whole track yet. Glam Bucket, yeah the live version is definitely better. This just misses the punch in the rhythm part which means it never really kicks off like the live version. Still a decent track though. Boy Boy Boy, I'm not feeling it. Sounds too much like a run of the mill 80's rock song to me. Maybe it will grow on me sometime. Cuddle Bunny, well this is pretty empty, doesn't do much really. Faxed Invitation, as I said this is one of my favourites. I love the subdued style and the lyrics. Good Morning Cockerel: another nice track. Not fantastic but I do like it. Best Mamgu Ever: well this is just amazing and could go on forever without boring me. Epic and layered, just the way I like it. :) |
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Well, I guess I might as well chip in with my thoughts...
It's a truly great album, and a definite return to form after AHDO, which I always felt was Rick and Karl trying a bit too hard to prove they could still do dance music without D.E. and in the process forgetting they were Underworld along the way. This album in contrast exudes confidence in their natural eclectic Underworld style. Crocodile/Beautiful Burnout is the commerical part, and I'm tempted to say they should have been listed as 1 track, to kick the album off with a 13 minute epic in the style of Juanita/Kiteless/Dream of Love, maybe this wasn't done because the 2 halves are both going to be singles? Holding the Moth and Ring Road seem to be dividing fans, which I'm all in favour of - who wants their albums to be predictable? I'm in the hate Moth, love Ring Road camp, Moth is too formula-housey-jazzy for me. I didn't like the fistst half of Cups either, and Moth just sounds like Cups Pt 1 revisited to me. Ring Road, on the other hand takes Underworld into new territory (I guess Bruce Lee is the neaest point of reference?), inviting comparisons with The Streets... on the first listen I was half expecting /dreading a 'dry your eyes mate' style chorus. There's some real venom from Karl on the subject of tagging... leave the urban graphic design to proper professionals like Tomato, you uncultured football-shirt wearing masses! :-) Maybe I love this song because I live in Romford and know that Ann Summers shop, those supermarket steps, those dageham hoodies and of course the Ringroad itself. God knows what Americans will make of this talk of arsenal shirts though. I've always had this thing with Underworld that if they mention a specific location, I generally knew it already - I used to commute down the tubehole in Farringdon Street, I bought milk and teabags for the office in Europa on Wardour Street, many's the night I stood waiting on Stratford station waiting for the midnight train to Romford thinking that everything was going west and nothings going east, as on the fast lines over the other side of the station dark trains thundered past with the lights in their windows turned off. I even used to drive home from my parents house along Crow Lane (score 10 bonus uw-obsessive points if you know the link!), and now I've started working from home in the outskirts of Romford, I'm still getting my 'stalked by Underworld' fix from Ring Road. Anyway... Glam Bucket. I really, really wish I hadn't seen how amazing this was as a live rock-out before hearing the much tamer album version. The other way round would have been a wonderful surprise, but as it it the album version is overshadowed by the live take. One of the perils of being a band that constantly reworks tracks is that sometimes things get better after you've committed the supposedly definitive version to vinyl, and the annoyingly shrill synth stabs neat the end are a definite 'oh, drat we thought of the pete townsend guitar whirl ending too late' moment. To Heal is of course delicious, but I do hanker for the welsh vocal snippets that give it it's name. Not so keen on Boy Boy Boy, but that's probably because I knew someone who self-harmed, and that really puts me off, so I won't blame UW for that... now we are into the part of the album where the manifesto 'we can do anyhing we like, bacause we are underworld' gets hammered home. CBvsTCV is odder than blueski, and hats off to underworld for putting it on a mainstream album rather than tucked away on a rivererun. I absolutely love Faxed Invitation, it's classic Underworld that wouldn't feel out of place on any of their albums, and it has amazing protential to become an epic stormer live. It's crying out to be al least twice as long and twice as heavy on the percussion, perhaps it's being held back a bit on the album to become a single later? Good Morning Cockerel is bittersweet and everything that it should be, then Best Mamgu Ever hits that 'last track on an underworld album' vibe perfectly. overall... it's wonderful, diverse yet cohesive, the lack of 'obvious' crowd-pleaser singles counts in it's favour - I didn't think I'd say this, but I'm coming round to the fact that the addition of the likes of "Peggy Sussed" and/or "You do Scribble" would have been a mistake. It's very Underworld, which is exactly what I wanted it to be... |
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[quote=Lx_Nen]Well, I guess I might as well chip in with my thoughts...
It's a truly great album, and a definite return to form after AHDO, which I always felt was Rick and Karl trying a bit too hard to prove they could still do dance music without D.E. and in the process forgetting they were Underworld along the way. This album in contrast exudes confidence in their natural eclectic Underworld style. I've always had this thing with Underworld that if they mention a specific location, I generally knew it already - I used to commute down the tubehole in Farringdon Street, I bought milk and teabags for the office in Europa on Wardour Street, many's the night I stood waiting on Stratford station waiting for the midnight train to Romford thinking that everything was going west and nothings going east, as on the fast lines over the other side of the station dark trains thundered past with the lights in their windows turned off. I even used to drive home from my parents house along Crow Lane (score 10 bonus uw-obsessive points if you know the link!), and now I've started working from home in the outskirts of Romford, I'm still getting my 'stalked by Underworld' fix from Ring Road. LOL thats what got me into Underworld to.I am a Train Driver and i used to work out of Liverpool Street for eight years.At night i would head West instead of East with the lights out.;) Often wondered if a picture of myself at work would turn up inside an Album cover trundling through the High Rise of Bethnal Green instead of the usual trainspotter taking it. :). Did see karl at Saffron Walden of all places having a drink at a Cafe with a Lady friend a couple of years back. |
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in fact, i heard 'crocodile' and 'beautiful burnout' both live first, and now after hearing the album/studio versions, i find them both lacking, even though they are probably the best songs on the new album.. there's something about hearing a track live, when the improvise/extend or add other elements to it...that can't be captured in the studio most of the times.. i haven't listened to the album enough (3 times only now), to really form an opinion, but i'm leaning to the better than 'adho' not quite 'beacoup fish' level so far.. i liked the riverrun tracks better, but that wasn't actually an album was it? later -1 |
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I hear you about the Live vs Album thing. I agree that Crocodile is better live, but I have to say the production on BB is so lush and intricate and multi-layered in comparison to the live version that it gives me goose bumps every time.
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for me, i haven't heard 'juanita' live yet (except on bootlegs), but i think it would be very hard to get the same effect live.... later -1 |
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