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the mongoose 08-02-2005 05:52 AM

the Prodigy - 'Their Law' the singles 1990 - 2005
 
tracklisting

the Out of Space remix will be the single.:)

God I'm old.:(;)

holden 08-02-2005 08:23 AM

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Looks like a nice collection! Note that they start it off with "Firestarter" of course.;)

"Spitfire '05 version"?! Just how many alternate takes are there for the AONO tracks?!:p

Anyway, good for the Prodg for including the disc of rarities/live stuff. It's been a great career, and i think the greatest hits collection is a good idea, esp. for U.S. fans, since AONO came and went without much fanfare here...we need reminded of the glory days!

Holden

p.s. just heard "Hot Ride" in a tele preview for the crap movie "Steath"!

big screen satellite 08-02-2005 09:18 AM

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nice - i'll be buying that for sure...

Caprice 08-02-2005 10:22 AM

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me too, and ignore these words, now im at and over ten characters.

joethelion 08-02-2005 03:47 PM

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all of the "05 Versions" are merely edits, nothing new

honestly... I find this plainly insulting, especially how much Liam hyped this release up. He explicitly stated that it wasn't going to just be a singles collection, and that it was going to be more of an anthology for the fans

...it was also supposed to include demo's, outtakes, alt versions, and new tracks

instead it's just a bog standard 'best of' release


- oh, and one of the many many delays for this release was Liam "had to tweak the new version of Firestarter more" ...funny how it's the normal version on it eh?

holden 08-02-2005 04:27 PM

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Edits?! That's bollocks. i'm remembering the hatchet job on Orbital's "Work 1989-2001"...so many tracks were cut short:(


Well, i'm not fanatical about Prodigy like i've been with Chemical Brothers and Underworld (read: buying everything), but i have a few singles, boots and all the LPs. So, i'm at least excited about the comp's inclusion of:
Poison - 95 EQ
Charly (Alley Cat Remix)
Everybody in the Place (Fairground Remix)
Out of Space (Audio Bully's remix)
Voodoo People (Pendulum remix)
Under my Wheels (remix) (...maybe an edit? or the alt. take from one of the AONO singles?)

and most of disc 2.

Maybe the serious fans already have all this? i've not heard the above, though, so it'll be worth it. i hope!

stimpee 08-02-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by holden
Edits?! That's bollocks. i'm remembering the hatchet job on Orbital's "Work 1989-2001"...so many tracks were cut short:(

But the difference is, the Orbital one was always advertised and pushed as a singles collection so it was always gonna include edits so that they could fit as many tracks in as possible. They still managed to fit in a few tracks that a lot of fans wouldnt have such as Frenetic, and radically different versions of Satan Spawn and Choice along with specially created shortenend versions of a lot of tracks (not just fade outs). I thought they did well to squeeze it in under 80mins in the end.

As for the Prodigy, we'll have to listen and find out but on the surface it doesnt look as though much work has been but into it to make it a proper singles collection (like the Orbital one), or something to collect for rare tracks (like a lot of greatest hits collections these days).

Animal Boything 08-02-2005 07:09 PM

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For years I've bought every Prodigy single I could get my hands on, because of the impressively consistent quality of the various b-sides and remixes. I'm familiar with most of the tracks that are on there and most of the ones that aren't, and it's not what I'd call perfect, but it's not bad. The way I see it this is going to be a pretty great buy if you're just a casual fan, but if you already own all the albums it would be better to just buy a couple of the better singles. I would strongly recommend the Poison, Breathe, Charly and Out of Space singles to anyone who likes the Prodigy, and none of the other ones are crap, at least through the Fat of the Land years. Reactions to the recent material have been generally mixed... but anyway... I might pick this up at some point just because I'm something of an obsessive completist and there are a few thing on there I don't have, but this is a release strictly for obsessive completists and those who only want ONE Prodigy record.

joethelion 08-02-2005 07:43 PM

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that version of Under My Wheels is probably either the one that was on the Girls single, or on the US iTunes

(I am almost positive those two are exactly the same.. but just in case)


and neither of the versions are markedly different than the album version, one has a Kool Keith sample "rock n' roll"

I might still buy it - or wait for it to show up on "that" Russian website...
as there are only a few tracks on it which are desirable:
Out Of Space (Audio Bullys Remix)
Razor (Original Mix)
Back 2 Skool (Original Mix)
Voodoo People (Pendulum Mix)
Voodoo Beats (Original Mix)
The Way It Is (Live Remix)

-> unless Razor is merely the Flint track

btw - which reminds me of how much crap Baby's Got a Temper was - I mean, the original version (by Flint) didn't even use rohypnol as the chorus, it was actually called "no name no number" and was pretty good

IsiliRunite 08-02-2005 08:24 PM

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I like the album art, and I'm glad this new album isn't a mere collection, but actually deviations you can't find anywhere else.

No Chemical Brothers mixes. :(

Hunderworld 08-03-2005 02:08 AM

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For many years I had a big UW vs. Prodigy struggle, but it's now absolutely clear that UW are the absolute winners. The Prodigy turned into a very wrong direction with this punk-rock-something, I preferred their rave-electro period from 1991-1995. It's a big shame that they somehow ignoring this era, not playing much songs from their first LP, and their music lost its creativity on their latest album.

undarrenworld 08-03-2005 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunderworld
For many years I had a big UW vs. Prodigy struggle, but it's now absolutely clear that UW are the absolute winners. The Prodigy turned into a very wrong direction with this punk-rock-something, I preferred their rave-electro period from 1991-1995. It's a big shame that they somehow ignoring this era, not playing much songs from their first LP, and their music lost its creativity on their latest album.


I agree, not need to add....;)

Ally 08-03-2005 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunderworld
For many years I had a big UW vs. Prodigy struggle, but it's now absolutely clear that UW are the absolute winners. The Prodigy turned into a very wrong direction with this punk-rock-something, I preferred their rave-electro period from 1991-1995. It's a big shame that they somehow ignoring this era, not playing much songs from their first LP, and their music lost its creativity on their latest album.

They aren't - got to see Out Of Space performed live for the first time in my life this year.

Ally 08-03-2005 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Animal Boything
impressively consistent quality of the various b-sides and remixes

Yeah The Prodigy are responsible for my favourite B-Side of all time; No Man Army on the UK Smack My Bitch Up single. Cracking drum stuff, instantly recognisable as Proj work.

IsiliRunite 08-03-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunderworld
For many years I had a big UW vs. Prodigy struggle, but it's now absolutely clear that UW are the absolute winners. The Prodigy turned into a very wrong direction with this punk-rock-something, I preferred their rave-electro period from 1991-1995. It's a big shame that they somehow ignoring this era, not playing much songs from their first LP, and their music lost its creativity on their latest album.

Yes, but how much can you say Undeworld has evolved from Dubnobasswithmyheadman to Beaucoup Fish, or even One-Hundred Days Off? Not nearly as much from the B-sides of Experience to their most recent album. I didn't want The Fat of the Land 2.0. Nobody did.

Go back and listen to the new stuff, and it's surprisingly good after you get your mind set on the fact that it isn't the same old The Prodigy.

People criticised both Liam and Norman Cook for producing off-beat, electronic albums that went in a direction different than the 303-fest we have going on now, but even if people don't completely sound like them, but merely incorporate parts of their new style into their more contemporary acts, the producer's efforts won't be in vain.

the mongoose 08-03-2005 01:03 PM

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the New stuff is so layered and subversive that I still hear new elements in the tracks. For instance, listen to 'the Way It Is' with headphones on...you'll hear a mellow funk guitar loop that you cannot usually even hear.

Liam did a great job on AONO. Also, the songs Razor and Back 2 Skool on 'Their Law' are brand new tracks btw.:D

undarrenworld 08-03-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
People criticised both Liam and Norman Cook for producing off-beat, electronic albums that went in a direction different than the 303-fest we have going on now, but even if people don't completely sound like them, but merely incorporate parts of their new style into their more contemporary acts, the producer's efforts won't be in vain.

You cant compare FBS new style with Liams new style, both are unique, but FSB was always better. In old 303 time and in thi new era.
Please dont get me wrong i respect Liam for Experience, but from that time they went downhill. Last time they was on top was with Fat Of The Land.

Prodigy was strong in that old sound, the new look dont pass to them...

We never know what will be next album of our fav band. Compare Prodigy to the Chemical Brothers in this time. Chems are ready to kill every living thing...

Phill Hartnoll will love these words...:D

Respect, Peace


EDIT: Liam is not the worse, the downhill ride did Daft Punk this year.

No Homework, No Discovery
Daft Punk loses a face, but one half on the band (Thomas) is still kicking hard...

How is that possible?:confused:

holden 08-03-2005 04:05 PM

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Yes, it'll remain to be seen how this collection sounds...ultimately greatest hits collections are for the casual listener who might like a few songs and hear others that will lead them to buy more. The fanatics already own it all, anyway, and will have their complaints. The bonus disc is a nice gesture to the fanbase, though, just as the Chems' comp. was. i wasn't aware that the Orbital disc was designed to simply be a "singles" collection, but it was effective in getting me into the band back in 2002. Later i realized how tracks had been altered or shortened, but at the time it was pretty special.

Concerning the Prodigy's latest output, i'll say again that most people in the US were barely aware they were still around! They remember "Firestarter" and that's the aging image that's stuck. AONO was, for all it's revisions and rough edges (Juliete Lewis' vocal, i'm looking in your direction!), a pretty enjoyable record. It didn't sound like FOTL or Experience, but different needn't equal Bad. Take the new Royksopp...it's no "Melody AM", but it's good in its own way. I'm sure there are some people who think Daft Punk's "Human After All" is a fine progression, too. It's tough for bands who put out a legendary album(s), because they'll always be compared to that earlier work, methinks.

IsiliRunite 08-03-2005 05:21 PM

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Human After All is excellent.

It's rough around the edges. A welcome change after the synth heavy, good-times Discovery.

Holden; You think the prodigy climaxed with Experience? I can't even begin to respond to that....

holden 08-03-2005 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite
Holden; You think the prodigy climaxed with Experience? I can't even begin to respond to that....

Nope..i didn't say anything of the sort! i only said AONO was different than FOTL and Experience, and not bad at all. i didn't name a favorite, cos i like them all for different reasons. Just as with Royksopp and Daft Punk. and now i'm repeating myself!:p

stimpee 08-04-2005 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by undarrenworld
Phill Hartnoll will love these words...:D

Thank you! you're lovely!

IsiliRunite 08-04-2005 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by holden
Nope..i didn't say anything of the sort! i only said AONO was different than FOTL and Experience, and not bad at all. i didn't name a favorite, cos i like them all for different reasons. Just as with Royksopp and Daft Punk. and now i'm repeating myself!:p

That's why I asked a question, to clarify myself.

Not that you're saying this, but I think it's a lame thing to say that The Prodigy albums are getting weaker as time goes on, when really, they're deviating more and more from the average electronic music at the time (No, FOTL didn't mash into Electronica, it created it).

Jafs 08-05-2005 04:47 AM

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A new studio album by prodigy is expected by this end of this year...


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