Babel
 

> Such a nice choice. it made me feel anxious almost the complete projection.
> Love Celso Piña.:)

Re: Babel
 

Eh, didn't do it for me. Felt a bit overlong and scattered at points where I know that was not the intention. I was looking forward to this film a great deal as well.

It looked good, sound great, and was cut and shot impeciably.

But one of the breaking points for me was the use of Gustavo Santaolalla's Iguza near the end of the film. This song was forever cemented in my mind as the piece of music playing as Dr. Wigand heads to give his deposition in Michael Mann's 1999 film The Insider. The images from that film combined with the music just worked so beautifully. Here it was the opposite and served to pull me further out of the film and added to my further growing dislike of the film.

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The movie is not that good at all is just super well directed. Extremely well.
and visually it's just a delight. The e-trip scene in Japan is so beautiful.
Music is excellent!!! I didn't see Brokeback Mountain but i have the soundtrack... Santaloalla it's such a great film composer.

The brad pitt story was sooo boring honestly, super mainstream terrorism ugh.. but i love the story of Amelia and the kids in the dessert. So true and touchy. Love the mood of the Japanse girl story.

i hope he really stops now with his connected stories. Good try but time to move onto something else. no?

Oh and Gael Garcia Bernal, really needs to stop talking like norteño, because i dont believe his role at all ewww..

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exactly, this is the same point I discussed with one close friend. I didn't catch 21 grams, but as far as I know, the stories on it were connected on a very similar basis. The good news is that Iñarritu announced that this film signs the end of his trilogy.

Anyway, good one.

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I thought 21 grams worked. I don't think it was great, but I do think it worked.

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I wonder if Iñarritu can work outside of the interconnected structure of story telling that he's ingrained himself in with his screenwriter?

I'd like to think he can, and I really have no patience to sit through another film like Babel and I deliberately stayed away from 21 Grams specifically for this reason.

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I don't think it's really makes much sense to lump 21 Grams into that category. I may not be remembering it clearly, but, from what I recall, it's not really any level of forced or stylized interconnection. It's as simple as X did such and such to Y. Nothing fancy.

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but 21 gramms is the best of the trylogy...of 3. hehe..
no really, after 21 gramms, amores perros was a bit bleh to me...
and now after Babel, 21 gramms stands out from first and last.

I think he really need to start working with new screenwriters...
and let Guillermo Arriaga for a bit.

I was so happy they won in Cannes but im not sure yet why this screenplay won.. terrorism is so hot i tell you.

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That is what one of my friends kept telling me, that 21 grams is the best, but I really enjoyed Amores perros the first time I saw it and haven't seen it since. I think I'll have to add 21 grams to the download queue this evening.

I'm in total agreement with the parting ways of Arriaga, it kind of sounds like that had already been happening with the recent publication of a rift between the two that ran in the Times 3 or 4 weeks ago.

I think Iñarritu deserved the nod for directing from Cannes.

terrorism is too hot for the hot tube!

Re: Babel
 

*SPOILER ALERT*











OK - I saw this film on Friday and really enjoyed it, although it took a good while to "heat up" - ditto just about everything that was said by GforGroove really. Fantastic visualisations, but the Brad Pitt/Cate Blanchett bit of the story was a tad tedious and, to my mind (maybe cos I used to have quite a few Moroccan friends in France?) a tad racist in the reactions of the tourists.

But anyway - I have a question that has been bugging me.









Spoiler ahead:


When the Brad Pitt character is phoning home from the hospital towards the end of the film, he talks to Emilia on the phone. Does this mean that the whole episode with Emilia and the kids hasn't yet happened in the scheme of things? Cos he talks of his sister-in-law Rachel coming over the next evening to look after the kids. Or is it just a big blip in the continuity? It has left me really puzzled. Any thoughts, anyone?

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spoiler (highlight text...)

[COLOR=#c8b090]Emilia and the kids go to Mexico after the Brad Pitt character has spoken to them on the phone, which means the whole incident with Cate Blanchett has already happened. The timeframe is deliberately shifted from scene to scene.

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I disagree because I have seen stupid tourists act like that. Living here for just about a year now, and dealing with tourists everyday, I can tell you that there are two types, 1) are exactly like the people on the bus in the movie. I really don't like these types of people in general. 2) the people who are more laid back and come to the country after doing some research and have some knowledge about the culture etc. Usually, these people are really cool and down to earth. Mainly, they are experienced travellers and know what they are getting into when they leave the comforts of the West and decide to travel in less developed places. For example these people would take a bit of extra time to dress somewhat modestly knowing that they are in a Muslim country, unlike some of the French people coming here dressing in bikini tops and miniskirts and being completely ignorant to the fact that they are being disrespectful to the people living here.

Actually, I get a twisted pleasure in seeing the ignorant tourists around, especially if they try to talk to me. I ignore them and act like I don't understand them, which is even more funny because they think that if they just talk louder I will understand!! Hahah; idiots.

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Oh yeah, I thought that the movie itself was pretty good. I think that the Japanese story was the best and most moving. They did manage to capture Moroccan life outside of the cities pretty spot on. And it was nice to see the people speak Darija, which is the dialect of Arabic here. These type of things, I feel made the movie really good.

They premired this last year here at the International Marrakech Film Festival, in which Brad Pitt was here for it, along with a long list of other actors. The film festival is getting huge here now; and this is going to probably bring more stupid idiot tourists, unfortunately.

I am really begining to hate living in the middle of Marrakech and just feel like moving up into the mountains and becoming a sheep herder.

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Deckard: thanks for that. Cos the conversation appeared different from the Brad Pitt end, I really wasn't sure if that was the case.

Myrrh: You live in Marrakech? You lucky blighter! LOL at the ignoring the tourists bit though. I had one or two experiences of rude British tourists when I was living in France that made me ashamed of my country, I must say.

O/T anecdote: One lunch time, walking back to the office, I walked past a group of northern blokes, one of whom said "Phwoar, look at the tits on that!" as they passed me. His face was beetroot-red when I turned round and said "Are you talking to me, love?" He apologised and kissed my hand, while his mates sniggered.

Pwnd! :p