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wookee 11-11-2006 09:09 AM

breaking and entering!!
 
hello everybody,I'm new to this forums business,have loved u/w for the last ten years or more but am so disappointed with their film soundtrack,really boring!!from the reviews I've read sounds like the films crap as well!! is it just me?

Dirty0900 11-11-2006 09:38 AM

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Hello and welcome!

I never thought the film track was gonna be a banging selection of tracks. It shows a much calmer side to Underworld which i like. Not their fav work of theres that i own but i do like it. Its done to suit the film which ive seen snippets off and it does work well with the movie.

Bargo 11-11-2006 11:30 AM

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I love it and think it's awesome. If I wasn't an Underworld fan and saw the film I probably would've bought the soundtrack regardless. Different strokes for different folks.

Edit: Also, welcome. :)

jose m 11-13-2006 02:44 AM

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its just you,i think you should try "transporter 2" i hear that they've got faithless and the dub pistols scoring it !;)

potatobroth 11-13-2006 12:38 PM

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i like it, but its really only the mellow side of uw. its nice for what it is, but its certainly not for someone expecting to hear the typical uw sound.

BrotherLovesDub 11-13-2006 04:51 PM

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welcome!

first and foremost, this is a soundtrack. it is also a collaboration with another artist. this is not the same thing as a guest musician. UW collaborated with Gabriel Yared to score for a film. below i've detailed my 5 step plan for enjoying this album:

1. purchase album*
2. contract the flu
3. roll and smoke spliff
4. take 1.5 doses of Nyquil
5. insert disc, press play


this works. if this doesn't work, please send me a sample of your weed and i'll test it on my end. thanks.

King of Snake 11-14-2006 01:02 AM

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I think it's absolutely wonderful. Obviously if you were expecting banging underworld tunes you're gonna be dissapointed but it's a great piece of soothing, atmospheric "ambient" music.

holden 11-14-2006 07:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake
I think it's absolutely wonderful. Obviously if you were expecting banging underworld tunes you're gonna be dissapointed but it's a great piece of soothing, atmospheric "ambient" music.


Agreed. This is an album that gets into you slowly. Nice themes, repeated motifs, lots of small surprises. Karl's voice as a lovely instrument (a la "I'm a big sister..." tracks), great guitar bits, even some beats if you listen closely!

First listen, i wasn't wowed, either...it sounded too minimal/unfinished. Give it some more spins while relaxed (maybe not drugged up on nyquil), and it'll start surprising you wirth lovely lil things. :)

wookee 11-17-2006 04:12 AM

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Hmmm listened again, at home this time chilled (not driving!),still boring,never really expected banging tunes but didnt expect sub 'boards of canada' like ambient twaddle either!!:(

Liam 11-17-2006 06:22 AM

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It strikes me that this album lies more in the vien of clasical than it does electronic. This is the Yared influence obviously, but something I'm sure Underworld were very excited to do. I know it's not minimalism, but it still reminds me of Steve Reich or Phillip Glass.

I highly highly recommend Reich's "Music for 18 Musicians," both as a referrence for how classical music has affected electronic (Kraftwerk were strongly influenced by Reich) and as a stunningly beautiful piece of music. Maybe this would be a way into the album for people who aren't into it at the moment.

jose m 11-17-2006 07:41 AM

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i think its a film score and should be judged with the film really.to judge the music against a track written for someones artist album is a bit daft.this music was written to go with the images and emotions of the action on the screen.

King of Snake 11-17-2006 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wookee
Hmmm listened again, at home this time chilled (not driving!),still boring,never really expected banging tunes but didnt expect sub 'boards of canada' like ambient twaddle either!!:(

you just don't get it! :p

mmm skyscraper 11-17-2006 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jose m
i think its a film score and should be judged with the film really.to judge the music against a track written for someones artist album is a bit daft.this music was written to go with the images and emotions of the action on the screen.

although in one of the radio interviews, Karl said that some of the music was written before they had even seen any of the movie.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-17-2006 05:31 PM

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Well yeah mmm skyscraper, that's pretty common.

Musicians usually have bits and bobs of music around them that don't seem appropriate for anything then suddenly (boom) they remember something they have that captures the feeling of whatever they apply it to.

King of Snake 11-18-2006 02:11 AM

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well in this case I think it was not like that, but rather the director had approached them about the project and they probably talked about what kind of film it was gonna be, what kind of feeling and atmosphere it was gonna have ... and then they started writing the music before the shooting had started. It was not like they already had this music lying about just waiting for the film to come along.

viddy 11-18-2006 09:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake
well in this case I think it was not like that, but rather the director had approached them about the project and they probably talked about what kind of film it was gonna be, what kind of feeling and atmosphere it was gonna have ... and then they started writing the music before the shooting had started. It was not like they already had this music lying about just waiting for the film to come along.

Hope this helps explain the story:

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to the moderators: feel free to delete this post if necessary.

King of Snake 11-18-2006 10:33 AM

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thanks for that!
Funny how the track that captured his attention the most was EssGee, a track which a lot of people here found to be the weakest on the album.

viddy 11-18-2006 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake
thanks for that!
Funny how the track that captured his attention the most was EssGee, a track which a lot of people here found to be the weakest on the album.

my thoughts exactly, forgot about that

Flywaver 11-18-2006 12:48 PM

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I like EesGee.Especially as its like the calm before the storm as Dinosaur Adventure 3D kicks in!

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-19-2006 07:09 PM

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{{{Amen}}}

big screen satellite 11-20-2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by viddy
my thoughts exactly, forgot about that

indeed last years poll indicated it is UW's LEAST fav tune:

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showpost...51&postcount=1

Icke 11-20-2006 04:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
indeed last years poll indicated it is UW's LEAST fav tune:

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showpost...51&postcount=1

zomg;

Quote:

1- Ess Gee - 39% of all voters votes were for this track
2- Skym
3- Push Downstairs
4- Little Speaker
5- Trim
I often disagree with lists, but this is just too much. Skym is one of my fave tracks ever. They might all be a lot calmer than Moaner or Nuxx, but I find them very, very beautiful in their own right.

potatobroth 11-20-2006 07:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Icke
zomg;



I often disagree with lists, but this is just too much. Skym is one of my fave tracks ever. They might all be a lot calmer than Moaner or Nuxx, but I find them very, very beautiful in their own right.

so Skym is your favorite track, but i'd be willing to bet that the next 9 tracks of your top-ten are banging. fact is, if UW made an album of 10 skym-ish tracks, we wouldn't be there on a msgboard talking about it. Ess Gee just isn't captivating in any way imo. If Ess Gee and Skym are what you think of when i say, "underworld" then you are in luck and have a soundtrack you will be very pleased to hear. ;)

holden 11-20-2006 09:46 AM

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i agree that Breaking and Entering is in the vein of Ess Gee, but it is much more than a harmless guitar doodle. It is multi-instrumental, orchestral, alteratively minimal and overlayered, quiet and percussive. it basically shows how much UW is capable of in addition to the banging electro-dance tracks that we all know and love.

As an aside, i don't understand the lumping of Ess Gee and Skym...theyr'e very different sorts of tracks. Ess Gee is just guitar, while skym is mostly keyboard. The fact that they are both beatless might warrant comparison, but Skym def. feels like a full "song", which builds and changes. Ess gee is just a nice lil noodle bit. If you're gonna include it with anything, here's the family:
Ess Gee, Blueski, Shudder.


Hmm, just thinking about that 5 least favorites list. i bet if there was a top ten downtempo/ambient tracks, some of those would appear as favorites ;)

potatobroth 11-20-2006 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by holden
Hmm, just thinking about that 5 least favorites list. i bet if there was a top ten downtempo/ambient tracks, some of those would appear as favorites ;)

oh i didnt mean to lump them, i was just going by the results from the poll. but UW only released a handful of downtempo, skym-type songs so a poll would be useless.

i like the soundtrack for what it is. but it in absolutely no way, satisfies any hunger i have to hear underworld.

Icke 11-21-2006 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
so Skym is your favorite track, but i'd be willing to bet that the next 9 tracks of your top-ten are banging.

I love Pearl's Girl, the Born Slippys, etc., but I also love tracks like Blueski and Shudder (thanks for mentioning them holden). I think I just sense the beauty in both types of tracks. If anything, I do not really like the tracks that are really in between the two extremes, like we have heard in some of the RiverRun tracks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
fact is, if UW made an album of 10 skym-ish tracks, we wouldn't be there on a msgboard talking about it.

Why the heck not :confused: ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
Ess Gee just isn't captivating in any way imo. If Ess Gee and Skym are what you think of when i say, "underworld" then you are in luck and have a soundtrack you will be very pleased to hear. ;)

I have heard the soundtrack and I love it indeed :) .

Strawman 11-21-2006 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Icke
I love Pearl's Girl, the Born Slippys, etc., but I also love tracks like Blueski and Shudder (thanks for mentioning them holden). I think I just sense the beauty in both types of tracks. If anything, I do not really like the tracks that are really in between the two extremes, like we have heard in some of the RiverRun tracks.


Why the heck not :confused: ?


I have heard the soundtrack and I love it indeed :) .

I agree with everything you've said Icke. There are some amazing uw tracks which are slow, melodic & beautiful. And yes sometimes when I think of uw these are the tracks that pop into my head. Sometimes I think that the slower tracks have more repeat value. But yes love those D3AD tracks as well.

Icke 11-22-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Strawman
I agree with everything you've said Icke. There are some amazing uw tracks which are slow, melodic & beautiful. And yes sometimes when I think of uw these are the tracks that pop into my head. Sometimes I think that the slower tracks have more repeat value. But yes love those D3AD tracks as well.

And I also think that part of UWs beauty is in the juxtaposition of calm songs and pounding songs.

For example: the way DA3D follows Ess Gee on AHDO. And the very lovely combo on EE: the lovely calm outro of Push Upstairs, followed by the pounding beats of Pearl's Girl, followed by the mellow Jumbo, then Shudder and then King of Snake.

viddy 12-04-2006 07:34 AM

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Just wanted to say, that after listening to this score for a few weeks, that I really love what Rick, Karl, and Gabriel have done. Having not seen the film, the cd has become the score to my life this winter. Returning home to Chicago for thanksgiving, the themes of this score were constantly floating in my head as I walked/drove around the cold, winter landscape that I once called home. This really seems like winter music. I walked around the Chicago campus where I was a student just months ago with the "Hungerford Bridge" theme in my head, thinking of old friends and old memories left behind for the hustle of Los Angeles. I really love the textures and melodies (and lush soundscapes;)) in the score. Great job fellas.

Favorites:
Hungerford Bridge/We Love Bea
Will and Amira
Counterpoint Hang Pulse
St Pancras
Happy Toast

Strawman 12-04-2006 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wookee
hello everybody,I'm new to this forums business,have loved u/w for the last ten years or more but am so disappointed with their film soundtrack,really boring!!from the reviews I've read sounds like the films crap as well!! is it just me?


Welcome Wookee!:)

I'll have to buy it and listen. I like the mellow stuff so I might like it. Is it really different like I'm a big sister... I loved that!

the mongoose 02-01-2007 12:15 AM

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new interview with the director......didn't read to see if he mentions UW score or not though.

Click


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