Footwear Repairs and Everything, Everything in HD! (well, one day)
 

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hablablablabla!

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click this --> http://mywebspace.wisc.edu/rmbannen/...l_footwear.mp3
do we need to start a grassroots campaign to get tvt to put it out on dvd?

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I know

I really really really miss being able to watch that tape

unfortunately, I have no way of converting VHS -> DVD

or, at least, I don't think I can

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Well, good luck with that one. :rolleyes:

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what an ass-wipe. i thought this was some sortta anouncement. i have not even seen footwear reparis. i was excited

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Well from my being a fan of other TVT/Wax Trax! artists it seems like this may not be so hard. Wax Trax! is defunct and its catalog has been getting reprinted by a variety of other labels as artists take their catalogs elsewhere. I know for a fact that My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult has taken its Wax material to Rykodisc and I think KMFDM has moved its back catalog to Metropolis.
Can freeing up Footwear be that far off for such a sickly label (TVT I mean, its still alive).

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Then again maybe that freedom is from being signed as only Wax Trax! artists before the aquisition by TVT.
Well, I'm still hoping that Underworld will be free to release they're work as they like again.

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Well its not the DVD but I have an original copy on ebay right now, which is very rare to see.


http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-underworld-...QQcmdZViewItem

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I still have the original VHS even though I no longer have a VHS player. It just sits on my shelf collecting the dust of time. Would really give it another view if I could. ;(

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There's a bunch of the UNDERWORLD: 'KITELESS'- A TOMATO PROJECT videos on eBay at the moment. Something tells me they might not be totally legit, as the seller is selling 10 of them, but who knows - maybe he just found a load of them in his attic :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNDERWORLD-KIT...QQcmdZViewItem


Tracklisting:
1. REZ
2. SPIKEE
3. SPOONMAN
4. DARK TRAIN
5. MOST ‘OSPITABLE
6. COWGIRL
7. OICH OICH
8. DIRTY EPIC (THE VIDEO)

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Footwear Repairs is also available new and used from several sellers on Amazon marketplace. I picked one up there the other day brand-new, sealed, for $5.

http://www.amazon.com/Footwear-Repai...e=UTF8&s=video

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i actually just came to wondering wether these would be in HD quality. i suppose most of the music videos to maybe have been shot on 16mm, but they could very well have been filmed with a typical tv broadcast camera which is significantly less quality than HD (if i remember right).... and some of the ee footage seems to be shot with pro camcorders (just guys on stage running around?), which is also not quite HD quality...

too bad... just footwear repairs NEEDS to get put on dvd

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i ordered this from amazon some years back.
wierd to see it's so rare now.
my VHS player doesnt work anymore though.

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[COLOR=#ff0000]And, by the way, the original release didn't include Dirty epic (the video). That was only on Footwair repairs... It's not mentioned on the tracklist of Kiteless.:confused: [/COLOR]

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you're absoolutely right. Since none of EE was filmed in HD resolution, there's really no way to release it as a HD version in the future even.

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I bought a copy from that ongoing auction. Cassette and case seem to be genuine (Dirty Epic isn't listed). I haven't yet watched it, though, since I don't have a VHS player.

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Just wondering if the video was worth the purchase, it's all over amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Footwear-Repai.../dp/6305032432

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Yeah, absolutely it's worth it. It has all their music videos up through Moaner. Yeah, and it can be had rather cheaply.

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ok,
i know most people don't have vhs players..

but i'm sure you can find one cheaply,
and a someone (or service) with a conversion
to dvd can be done...maybe not with the greatest
quality..

just for reference....i did a svcd capture
of the 'footwear repairs' by passing it from vhs->8mm->
capture board at 720x480..

and have been using that to watch it..

there's a lot of grain and noise, and due to a lot
of quick transitions, some parts get pretty blocky.
however, this was about 8 years ago...i'm sure a
newer encode, would do a much better job, especially
with newer codes .h264, .divx etc..

the sound quality was pretty good, but i'm sure
that could be re-encoded, except for the 'extra
improv bit's between some videos..

later
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I ripped my vhs copy to an mpeg file, but haven't had time to fiddle with it to get it into a DVD format. I must say though that the quality is crap. The frame rate for the various tomato videos (the swirly colors and such) don't capture too well (they look choppy). To do a proper DVD, you'd have to either encode the masters with some serious equipment, or else somehow sync the capture with the framerate of the tape. The result of my rip is watchable, but you can tell it's not quite right. The original tape looks better, so if you can get a VHS player, that's the best way to watch it right now.

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It's not like VHS is some weirdo obscure format. It's 29.97 fps NTSC.

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i think it has more to do with the nature of the footage
(very quick cuts), strobing, flashes, etc...

mpg couldn't handle it too well.. i think if you
play around with the parameters in .h264 or
.divx you could get a good encode....especially
with a fast computer, and hardware encoder..

later
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I've recorded my copy of Kiteless and burned it for DVD, and MPEG-2 was perfectly fine for that.
I've captured it with my TV-card at 12000-15000 kbps MPEG, then I recoded it at ~5000 kbps @ 352x576. There are no visible MPEG artifacts.
My advice: Try to record at the highest possible bitrate you can get with your capture card, or go even lossless. Then you can convert it with a good MPEG encoder, like HCenc (which is free btw). A resolution of 352x576 (or 352x480) should be enough as the (analog) limit of VHS equals to about 240x576 (240x480).

I've also replaced the (mono!) audio of the VHS with the CD audio, except of course for the little bits in between which I left there. They fade in and out of the CD audio now.

Has Footwear Repairs also just mono audio? My copy of Kiteless is mono, on the mono and on the hi-fi stereo track.

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i knew if you had a high bitrate it would be better for encoding,
but why such a low resolution? shouldn't you be able to do it
larger? (or just scale it up?)

also, if you're watching on a monitor, it won't look as good,
as if you output to a tv screen, right?

how many parts were there between the tracks?
each video....its been a long time since i've heard it...

thanx for the tips...

i need to try to re-encode it..

also, i have a promotional video for the entire
'beaucoup fish' album, but they loop some
concert footage, and studio footage..its not
that great..but its interesting to watch..

later
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That's what I meant. obviously ntsc is a well known standard, but I was using a crappy hauppage TV tuner card for the capture (basically no capture options) and it ONLY captures to an mpeg2. And yes, the quick cuts and strobing look like they fell out of someone's butt. So it's beyond my hardware capacity to make it look right.

tomato encodes of videos
 

ok,
i have the following for comparison:

japanese tomato anthology
born slippy 2003 UK DVD single
2 videos from AUS ADHO tour release
(dinosaur 3d, two months off)

footwear repairs VHS
footwear repairs SVCD (fan)
footwear repairs DVD (fan)

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Looking at the official tomato DVD encodes,
born slippy 2003 doesn't count, since it just
involves panning around still frames.. and the
video is a just clips of 'trainspotting' so no
issues there..

the anthology video has these:
-----------------------------
rez
dark train (edit)
born slippy
two months off
jumbo

the videos are good quality / NTSC, 4:3 , but the
last two exhibit some pixellation..

also there's a lot of tearing in rez / dark train....

dinosaur 3d seems to be encoded in decent quality...
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the various svcd/dvd encodes also exhibit slightly
muted colors / noise / tearing also...

so it looks like you would have a do a high quality
encode...with no compression to capture it all....

i'm not sure if the mpg format on dvd allows that,
or if you have to use divx, or h.264

later
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(mhm.. i think i already read about that idea somewhere...)