DJ Shadow - The Outsider
 

This album is terrible. The music is 85% garbage bag and the guest appearances (mainly rappers) are 100% wack. What happened to this guy? :cool:

Re: DJ Shadow - The Outsider
 

I haven't heard the album, but, I would guess:

a) He had a bag of tricks.

b) He exhausted it.

Re: DJ Shadow - The Outsider
 

I've had a promo copy of the album for like... at least a couple of weeks, if not at least 2months

although, I haven't listened to it for a little while, I try and wait till the album comes out at least

it's not that it's necessarily a bad album but ...it's just sooo average. Even the tracks that are more in his older style sound more like someone trying to copy "the dj shadow sound" instead of it actually being him

...and it's not just b/c of the hyphy tracks

and I actually like "Seein' Thangs"

Re: DJ Shadow - The Outsider
 

the david banner one and turf dancing are fucking great though.

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yup. i think it's terrible too. there are a few good songs though. my favs are track 2, the broken levee blues and the one with q-tip as a guest rapper. i just like q-tip though

anyhow, i think it was his first overall disapointing piece of work. i quite enjoyed even his last albumn

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this album owes me over 60MB's! Shadow is a piece of shit and has been since about 6months after Endtroducing came out. I've seen him twice and walked out twice, and i loved Endtroducing. what a giant sack of shit. Dj Krush is the king! Long Live Krush.

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ah, i suppose his work on the first UNKLE album wasn't bad, but honestly, can anyone listen to that now?

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The David Banner cut is satisfyingly mediocre and is therefore probably the best cut on the album...

I agree w/ joethelion's comments re: Shadow ripping off (i.e., watering down) his own sound... and I also concur w/ BrotherLovesDub...long live DJ Krush!

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i got a krush, too.

(sorry for the bad pun)

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hmm. generic samples ftl.

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yes... yes I can. I actually was just listening to it today, prompted by hearing an streaming radio interview. It's funny how nowadays - it's almost "the cool thing" to say that you liked back then... regardless of your original opinions about the album

sure - there are some flaws in the album, but still - it has some incredible moments of brilliance (or maybe just luck?)

it definitely says a lot about UNKLE when you notice how much of that album was featured in "In Tune & On Time" which, essentially was a Dj Shadow greatest hits release (even though it was a live recording)

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I can, and did, just yesterday. I've been on an UNKLE kick the past few days listening to some old mixes and just listened to psyence fiction. Some of the samples throught still make me smile too.

Like the sample of Francis Coppolla from the documentary Heart of Darkness:A filmmakers Apocalypse on the making of Apocalyspe Now.

"There were too many of us. We had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little, we went insane."

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so i'm the only one who thinks that despite its incredible patchiness, it's a much more exciting offer than 'the private press'?

:(

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:( the tragic thing about this album is that it involves a true innovator chasing trends rather than his heart...

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yea...

I actually didn't think Private Press was that great. I never listen to that album. The only tracks that really stood out for me were Six Days and Walkie Talkie

sure, Blood On The Motorway was a good track... but it really felt like it was missing something (and it sounded like it was a Rabbit in your Headlights retread)... I only actually really like the version from "In Tune..." which uses the strings from "Celestial Annihlation" and parts of "Rabbit in Your Headlights"

actually - I'd take any of the live versions from that album over any of the studio versions

Re: DJ Shadow - The Outsider
 

perhaps i should bust out the UNKLE disc again then, but the thought of hearing it now, puts me off. i loved that disc on release, played it a bazillion times, then haven't put it on since...probably 99? it's been ages since i've heard it. anyway, i'll relisten on the wise advice of Joethelion and others. Will report back.