Re: official second toughest t-shirts on ebay
 

Time for a t-shirt photo archive maybe?

EDIT: this thread was split from the t-shirts on ebay thread.

Re: official second toughest t-shirts on ebay
 

That's another thing an underworld wiki would be great for!

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Weren't we gonna set one in motion a while back? I'm all for having an UW fan wiki.

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i was thinking more of an open flickr account...

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sure, that would suit something like this, but don't you think we could use a wiki around here?

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Without doubt! modelling it on the Depeche Mode wiki would be no bad thing as that one is very well organised. However, I have no experience of this and the nice warm weather and world cup football is very distracting... ;)

Re: official second toughest t-shirts on ebay / underworld wiki
 

Matt has the discography sorted;)

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By matt's own admission his pages need radically updating. Anyway, I've had a go at adding a page to the existing Underworld page at the wiki, and I've added a page for Spikee / Dogman Go Woof because that was the easiest :D

Now the template is there it should be relatively easy to create pages for other singles.

Re: official second toughest t-shirts on ebay / underworld wiki
 

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue]Mark, your shirt is beautiful as well :)
I didn't have any idea so many different ones were made!

Steve, i like hat you did with the Spikee page, but isn't that like re-inventing the wheel?
>>>>http://www.dirty.org/underworld/disco-uw.php
and >>>>>http://www.dirty.org/underworld/articles-uw.php
etc.
Why not build on this?

There have been so many sites around Underworld, trying to make a good discography etc, maybe it is time now to join forces? and make an Underworld encyclopedia/webmuseum based on all info there is available?? We could include the discography, t-shirts, posters, and all other memorabilia ( i am thinking of Lloyd's radio ;) and Matt's collection of tickets etc. )
That is : if every one is willing to co-operate!! We would need quite a few volunteers i guess :)
I know Yannick tried this, and several other fans, and i guess through time some of us have gathered quite a few items :) and it would be fun to join it all. Or would that be undo-able?
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Re: official second toughest t-shirts on ebay / underworld wiki
 

well excuse me for reinventing the wheel. but, having a wiki means everyone can edit it.

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I like Lou's idea behind this...

the only trouble is and reason why i have not done any updating is 'time' - my discography on my own website is pretty comprehensive but i must have 50% more things i could and should have updated by now, but its time to do it...

even working on it, at say a track a day it would take me two months solid to just re-do, thats not counting time out to take pictures and then upload them, and thats just the music side of things, i have so many other bits and pieces now in my collection, apprael, letters, adverts, posters, mag clippings etc,. that its hard to keep track of them let alone spend time putting them on a website

and that i think is the problem everyone has, time to do it, i know Yan's been working on the Dirty site, but thats taking its time and i for one have a proper job to do

i'd be more than willing to help update something, if an easy solution was agreed on, and i really want to update my site, which i am gonna look at again (after the world cup), so keep your eyes peeled at least on my site...

in the meantime if you want to know anything give me a shout ;)

Matt

Underworld wiki
 

I've updated the Spikee page with help from Raz and Mattval/BSS.

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yeah we've (Stimpee) made it nice and uniform in its set up, and all of the (discography) pages should look like this i think...

the trouble is i've looked at the main Underworld front page, and that needs a nice overhaul too... its a bit 'messy'

but tiny steps first i suppose....

anyway the updated Spikee version is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spikee (i know its on the front page, but people are lazy buggers)

Re: Underworld wiki
 

Could we have an official dirty.org/wiki, please? If you have the time to do it, of course! :)
another thing that argues for our own wiki is that wikipedia does not allow high resolution pics/scans. :(

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i dunno - thats not bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UW_spikee_disc.jpg

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This is a good idea cos it means that the burden is not just on one person's shoulders to keep it updated. Good thinking. Although I don't think I have anything much to contribute, not being all that knowledgable about releases and such, I will enjoy reading it.

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I mean from a copyright point of view those kind of pics are not wanted by wikipedia. The license is printed just below the scan.

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yes, can we have a wiki here please :)
from which thread comes this line from Scott btw?

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Lou: it was fromthis thread. I think Scott is talking about setting the building blocks not the content.

Jan: I know about the copyright with the pictures but there are many thousands of similar images on there and it was me who scanned and uploaded and chose the correct copyright license. They do allow high res images but prefer low-res as they say they fall under Fair Use.

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Weird picture on the Underworld wiki article. Should be a picture of the band instead of that weird Freur logo.

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yeah the whole uw wiki needs sorting out...that may well happen if we get it sorted...

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Whether there is an official UW wiki somewhere or not, there will be an entry on the main wikipedia site so it needs to be cleaned up.

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[COLOR=Indigo]thanks Stimp, i remember that thread now :)
It would be cool if Scott could put the building blocks here!
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meanwhile, if anyone wants to have a go at adding new pages to the wikipedia then please go ahead. use the template i have made for spikee. i recommend starting off with the easy ones like The Hump/Mother Earth. Anyone with even a basic understanding of tagging can understand the wiki's formatting tags (if you can handle the vbulletin i reckon you can have a go!).

If an Underworld wiki is started here at dirty.org then everything can be just copy+pasted over so nothing is lost.

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I did my best to create a Dark & Long page, and I'm not sure if I should seperate it into Dark & Long (single) and Dark & Long (EP) or what. The page also currently doesn't include the 1999 re-release (vinyl and CD) and needs cover art.

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is this for real?
i've never seen it..

CD: Junior Boy's Own / JBO 19CDS (UK)

1. "Dark & Long" – 10:28
2. "Dark & Long (Burts)" – 8:47
3. "Dark & Long (Spoon Deep Mix)" – 17:53
4. "Dark & Long (Thing in a Book Mix)" – 20:12

also, the april records version is not from Germany.

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Re: Underworld wiki
 

I grabbed that from Mattval1's site, and it's also listed on dirty.org's discography.

The April Records CD is listed as a Germany release on dirty.org; where is it really from?

Re: Underworld wiki
 

most of the times, the april records cd is
listed as denmark (at least on lazlos' site),

http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?freur

search for 'dark & long'

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Re: Underworld wiki
 

as much as Lazlo was the 'don' for original discog sites, there are many errors in his site and it is fairly unreliable now, as it is so out of date... This was one of the reasons why i did my own site, which, i also admit needs some updates, but i'm still around and can clarify any queries personally, something with Lazlo can't do...so if you need any info on releases let me know as i have most here in my hands ;)

anyway - that JBO CD 19 does exist as i have it here in front of me...but the tracklisting i wrong, as it is wrong on my site, the tracklisting is as for JBO 5010273 which does exist and is a reprint of JBO 19

as for the April Records release, my version is certainly Scandinavian, as April is a division of pingo records in Denmark, and on the sleeve states it was distributed in Finland, Sweden and Norway, with no mention of Germany.

Intercord on the other hand is a german based company who did the vinyl releases abroad...


anyway i'll add some updates to the D&L page on wiki today, its looking good already...

Matt

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i've made a few updates, and amendments...where possible - all are accurate based upon the labels / sleeves of items i have here...

i wasn't too sure whether to change the details on the discography bit because on the CD and sleeves themselevs, it just says 'Dark Train', for example, as opposed to Dark & Long (Dark Train Mix)...

So i changed the April Records CD to show how it reads on the sleeve and disc, but left the UK ones...foe example its just Hall's Edit, Dark Train, etc...

the Vinyl, however, for some reasons lists the tracks in full, for example Dark & Long (spoon deep mix), so i obviously left these....

anyway the update is here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_%26_Long

feel free to make anymore amendments and add some pics....

Matt

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of course matt,
i'm not saying that lazlo is the end all be all.
i use a variety of sources (especially yours).

i just wanted to point out that one single
had a weird tracklisting...

anyways, i'll try to add some information
when i have a chance also..(i dont know
if you want add in the promos also, i'm
pretty sure theres quite a lot of those
for each single also, including this one)

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one other thing..

'dark and long(dark train mix)'
was on the re-release of the
us 'born slippy' cd-single and 3x12"

12"x3: 1996 US (WaxTrax!/TVT; 8731-0) [tracks unconfirmed]
11:37 Born Slippy.NUXX (extended)
9:59 Born Slippy.NUXX (deep pan)
6:31 Born Slippy.NUXX (darren price mix)
8:11 Born Slippy.NUXX (darren price remix)
10:24 Dark Train ["Dark & Long (dark train)"]
5:38 Banstyle (alex reece mix)

CD5: 1996 US (WaxTrax!/TVT; 8745-2)
11:37 Born Slippy.NUXX (extended)
9:59 Born Slippy.NUXX (deep pan)
6:31 Born Slippy.NUXX (darren price mix)
8:11 Born Slippy.NUXX (darren price remix)
4:23 Born Slippy.NUXX (short)
10:24 Dark Train ["Dark & Long (dark train)"]
5:38 Banstyle (alex reece mix)

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no probs ;)

i wasn't even aware that my listing for JBO19CD was wrong tbh, i must have done that part of the Discog before I actually acquired the CD single...and Lazlo's site is still a valid source, but its just a bit old and hasn't seen an update for years...and just wanted to make this clear...

anyhow, i'm not sure about listing promo's or not, and i don't think that there are any relevant for this single...(that i know of??)

i certainly don't think that its worth listing bootlegs, of which i have loads for Dark & Long

The Dark & Long (Dark Train) appearance on BS should be added to the Appearances section, as it will undoubtably be on the actual BS page, when someone tries to take that one on...

but feel free to add anything, the more info is better i feel...

Matt

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Nice work there both of you. I don't think that D&L had a weird tracklisting at all. 2x 12" and a CD. Then an import CD with some tracks from the 12"s. The German issues on CD and 12" just mirror the UK ones anyway. I think this was a good choice for the next item to do. Its slightly more complex than Spikee but still reasonably straight-forward.

The fact that Dark Train appears on an issue of Born Slippy shouldnt be mentioned in the main discography but maybe in the Appearances section with a link to the BS page when its done. This page is for Dark & Long as a single as the A-side only.

The layout looks faithful to the Spikee one and it looks neat. If anyone spots any obvious mistakes or spelling then either say so in this thread, and/or fix it on the wiki itself.

Keep it up :) Thanks also to the real stuff for creating the Dirty page also.

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i've updated the Dirty page...

check it out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_%...orld_single%29

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Thanks for fleshing 'em out, Matt. Looks good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Underworld

I'm in the process of making an Underworld template that can go on every Underworld-related page, and this will make it easier for us to see which articles need work. Right now there's a lot of red (meaning unwritten articles). It looks overwhelming, but the information is already out there -- it's just a matter of organizing it in one place.

Is there anything else we want to put on the template?

Eventually we might consider creating an 'Underworld Discography' page seperate from the main page. And speaking of the main page, it's begging to be re-written. We need to summarize what the band's been up to in the past year.

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i added a few changes to the template,
some singles, and the new live album.
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added 'mother earth/the hump' single,
and a few more scans..

i don't trust wikipedia though,
is there another way to save this
work. because if we put too much
into it, and there's no way to save it...

later
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As said earlier, if Scott sets up the UW wiki (when he returns from NZ) we will move the information across. Its a copy paste job except for the images which will have to be saved and uploaded again. Still a lot of work, but rest assured the Wiki isnt going anywhere soon thats for sure. I look forward to going over all the work and adding more content when I get back to the Netherlands. Its shaping up well!

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the problem with wikipedia is
that i'm not really sure it's
used anywhere else (the formatting)..

i don't really use it that often,
and am suspicious of it is a source
(since they dont' claim to be authoritative,
and anyone can add anything they like)

i'd rather have something in a more standard
html/css format...but thats just me..or even
something in a database format (which i started
once, but haven't finished yet).

i don't mind setting up the basic pages,
and if someone wants to expand them,
thats fine too..

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