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bryantm3 02-11-2006 08:02 PM

underworld's influences
 
forgive me, but i don't know if we've ever discussed their influences before. we know that karl likes the monkees, but what else? someone had a tape that karl had done with two songs by peter gabriel on it. does that mean he also likes genesis? and what does rick like? what are his influences? emerson, lake and palmer? the beatles? new order?

ndrwrld 02-12-2006 02:43 AM

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i'm guessing Yanni.;)

Jafs 02-12-2006 04:00 AM

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If I'm right I remember that the album that Karl prefers is "Revolver" by the Beatles, and that the 2 guys like world music, drum'n bass(liquid funk) and good minimal stuff, and so many other things. You should listen to their "Back to mine".

King of Snake 02-12-2006 08:32 AM

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dub and acid house

holden 02-12-2006 09:35 AM

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I think you should check out "Back to Mine" for an indication of influences/inspirations:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=glance&n=5174

Also, Karl has discussed his Captain Beefheart craze and early influences of Simon & Garfunkel in interviews. Rick credits Kraftwerk here:
http://www.audiohead.net/interviews/...ld/index2.html

m.g. 02-12-2006 10:12 AM

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the booklet inside "Back to Mine" contains also lots of indications apparently written by Karl...

stimpee 02-12-2006 11:54 AM

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Dont forget the tracklist to the 6mix that Karl did for BBC Radio 6.

big screen satellite 02-12-2006 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee
Dont forget the tracklist to the 6mix that Karl did for BBC Radio 6.

yeah Jumbo - by Underworld ;)

big screen satellite 02-12-2006 12:14 PM

Re: underworld's influences
 
personally - I think what KH listened to on his tape in this thread are influences too....

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1702

BeautifulBurnout 02-12-2006 12:23 PM

Re: underworld's influences
 
Prog.

Definitely.

*cough*

Liam 02-12-2006 01:12 PM

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Beefheart is a huge influence on Underworld, and you can really see this when you compare their lyrics. Beefheart was one of the first artists (that I can think of anyway) to pursue such abstract lyrics that don't make any sense in a linear kind of way but are beautiful nonetheless. Karl Hyde fits right in line with this. A lot of the vocal effects are also very simmilar (I'm not sure that Beefheart ever actually used a vocoder but he certainly modulated his voice a lot).

Underworld also state Gil Scott Heron's B-Movie as one of the most influential songs they've ever heard, re-defining their view of music. I'm not sure that I can pick out any musical connections, but I have to say that it re-defined the way I look at music as well.

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 02-12-2006 04:53 PM

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I always assumed that Underworld was influenced a lot by Brian Eno, and I'm sure that they'll confirm it if someone asked. Kraftwerk too, of course...interesting that "Numbers" is mentioned in that mixtape thread, because "Lenny Penne" sounds just like it!

As far as Captain Beefheart...I can see it in the lyrics, and honestly it isn't surprising that he's listed as an influence...a LOT of artists cite "Trout Mask Replica" as being one of their favorite albusm. I can see the appeal as an artist...is there, or will there ever be anything like it?

froopy seal 02-13-2006 03:01 AM

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Nice reaction from KH on underworldlive today (although a little too straight-forward for my taste ;) ).

Short answer: radio and mate Andy.
Extensive answer: soon to come?

botkiller 02-13-2006 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j
I always assumed that Underworld was influenced a lot by Brian Eno, and I'm sure that they'll confirm it if someone asked. Kraftwerk too, of course...interesting that "Numbers" is mentioned in that mixtape thread, because "Lenny Penne" sounds just like it!

As far as Captain Beefheart...I can see it in the lyrics, and honestly it isn't surprising that he's listed as an influence...a LOT of artists cite "Trout Mask Replica" as being one of their favorite albusm. I can see the appeal as an artist...is there, or will there ever be anything like it?

Yeah, I was going to say Eno as well, but the Back to mine is a great indication of what they listen to and what has influenced them. I always liked the fact that TLC's "creep" made it on there.

noisegeek 02-13-2006 09:27 AM

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Miles. Can't forget Miles.

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 02-13-2006 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by botkiller
Yeah, I was going to say Eno as well, but the Back to mine is a great indication of what they listen to and what has influenced them. I always liked the fact that TLC's "creep" made it on there.

Well, the problem for me is, besdies Digeridoo, I haven't heard any of those songs (besides "Creep" which I'm sure I've heard before) so I really have no idea what their influences sound like...

Anyway, as far as other influences...if you go even before Eno, there's krautrock, and I wonder how much of what UW does is influenced by Can, Neu!, and the like? I know Rick cites Kraftwerk, but honestly I have to wonder, being really into Can, how much their music influenced modern electronica?

suicidalpenguin 02-13-2006 05:15 PM

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nice to see Bukem & Horizons made it on there also - a class track if ever i heard one

dubman 02-13-2006 10:23 PM

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influences...

pah!

Jafs 02-14-2006 03:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noisegeek
Miles. Can't forget Miles.

Miles Davis or Robert Miles :D

Jan 02-14-2006 08:53 AM

Re: underworld's influences
 
what about their allmusic.com page? Are the infos there accurate?
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...1:46j4eat04xd7

...
and who is Jon E. Hydel?:D
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...4ue4j270wae~T3

King of Snake 02-14-2006 11:38 AM

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did anyone mention Steve Reich btw? Definitely a big and rather direct influence on some tracks.

myshkin 02-16-2006 03:03 PM

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Wel I've certainly seen them mention Kraftwerk and blaring Beethoven out of their van in the old days.

noisegeek 02-17-2006 08:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jafs
Miles Davis or Robert Miles :D

I was refering to Miles Davis.
And I still say Rick must have listened to alot of J.S. Bach at some point.

Also, Karl has said in interviews that his writing was (at least in the beginning) influenced alot by Sam Shepherd, and a Japanese writer whose name I've been trying to recall for ages (let me know if you know it). I think it was the dirtyradio interview from a few years back that featured him talking about this.

myshkin 02-17-2006 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noisegeek
I was refering to Miles Davis.
And I still say Rick must have listened to alot of J.S. Bach at some point.

Also, Karl has said in interviews that his writing was (at least in the beginning) influenced alot by Sam Shepherd, and a Japanese writer whose name I've been trying to recall for ages (let me know if you know it). I think it was the dirtyradio interview from a few years back that featured him talking about this.

Murakami? Japanese author of Norwegian Wood and a few other very respected books? Total guess.

mmm skyscraper 09-17-2007 01:54 PM

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=z9Wdd8UBZUI

Saw this on a ilx thread about Underworld - 'Born Slippy' being similar to Eno's 'Always Returning'

Lx_Nen 09-17-2007 03:32 PM

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Ahh! I've always wondered what that fragment at the end of the Stadium house version of the KLF's "What Time is Love" was, and now I know!

kowalski__ 09-18-2007 02:04 AM

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of course, new order.


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