marilyn manson
 

They've been putting of spots of it on the local rock station near me and it doesn't sound that bad. I've considered going back to the CD collection I made when I was in middle school and listening to that stuff again. (teen angst yay)

What do you guys/gals think of his music?

Re: marilyn manson
 

give me some alcohol and a loud stereo and maybe....ah who am i kidding. and he isn't even shocking anymore.

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I heard the song Antichrist Superstar on a Sirius radio channel a couple days ago and I had completely forgotten about the track. It had probably been about six or seven years since I'd heard the song and I was enjoying it quite a bit.

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He had a couple good albums, and then he completely lost it. Whatever musical value MM once had, it's gone now.

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I still like his stuff. He was drifting, but the dude from KMFDM refreshed things. People love saying he's not shocking anymore; who cares? He writes good pop tunes.

This is the New Shit and Use Your Fist are both good tunes off the new album. I actually think the whole album is good, though, and I'm pretty damn picky about stuff like that, too.

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Another song that I always like was off Mechanical Animals, called I don't like the drugs, but the drugs like me. It always reminded me of a Bowie song with the twangy, hooky guitar riff used in the song.

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...personally I never was much of a fan of his... I just felt like he was always trying so hard to shock people.


and basically, with Mechanical Animals, he ripped off Bowie.... and no, it's not just "the glam thing". Just off the top of my head, listen to "Fame" then "I Don't Like the Drugs but the Drugs Like Me". Now, I actually like that MM song, but - it's still not that original.

and btw - he tried to get Bowie to produce that album, but he (bowie) was too busy at the time. I will admit though, it probably would've been a great album... and worth more than the album that bowie released around that time ('hours...')

basically, he's "ok" but I think overall tries really hard to be 'shocking'
and not incredibly original... but it seems like that's ok nowadays... (trails off into another subject altogether)

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that's everybody's favorite criticism of manson...he's not original, he's not shocking, blah blah blah.

all his four studio albums are vastly different from each other. he's never re-tread the same ground, and has put a lot of effort and thought into doing something different each time out.

your "ripping off" david bowie is my "influenced by". i'd add that trying to get him to produce it would basically add support to this, don't you think?

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problem is that he wants to be shocking....and he just isnt

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From 2001:

"I'm a very introspective person. Whenever I get a minute of peace and quiet, I sit and think about certain things that occupy my brain. When I write, I am very obsessive and I guess selfish. I only write for myself. If the audience or the public at large doesn't understand what I'm saying, it doesn't matter. I write it for myself. Maybe they'll understand it tomorrow or the day after. Maybe they'll never understand what I'm trying to say, but for me it's necessary to do it, to write it, to get it out.

I don't do things for shock value. I do things because I want to do them, sometimes because I think it's funny. A lot of people don't get my sense of humor, maybe because it is often a bit dark and cynical."

But everybody sees right through that, right?

Re: marilyn manson
 

I saw MM at Ozzfest 90-something and I thoroughly enjoyed his show, turned me onto his music and I am still listening. I haven't picked up/heard anything since MA but I'd like to. I'm also an incorrigible David Bowie fan and I don't find MM to be ripping him off at all.

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wow adam, you sure are a fan :)

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hmm... ok - maybe 'ripping off' isn't quite the right word, but uncomfortably influenced by Bowie... that I think is a more proper thing to say.

I mean, to me at least a lot of MM songs that I've heard, the guitar work sounds bowie-ish... like specifically like Reeves Gabrels or Mick Ronson's work.

The video for "the Dope Show" was basically a run through of Bowie's "Ashes to Ashes". What I find funny, is that when Scott Weiland did this on the video for "Barberella" he was basically killed by Kurt Loder, et al on Mtv for "not being original" and was openly mocked

and no one can honestly say to me with a straight face that (at least up until his last album) he was making open emphatic attempts to shock people. I honestly feel like it was mostly just to sell more records... like the Prodigy when they released "Baby's Got a Temper" -> except he's based the majority of his career on it.

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He was also playing at the dutch Lowlands festival, didn't see him.