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big screen satellite 11-11-2005 01:17 PM

keeping track on the new tracks....
 
here goes - some kind of definitive new list of tracks (may need adding too):

JAL to Tokyo aka Bang the Poll (as mixed by Paul Woolford) aka Electronic Part 1 (as played by Pete Tong) (PT described this as a White Label...possibly one of only a couple of copies)

Kenne (Lenny?) Penne (live track)

Peggy Sussed (as played by Rob Da Bank)

Dub Shepard (as played by Rob Da Bank)

Monkey Wink (as played by Rob Da Bank)

Broken Lovely Thing - download album / ep (Eletronic parts 1-5?)

Shake it Higher (Shake T Higher - mispelling)

You Do Scribble (live track)

please feel free to add to this list...it'll help me add it all to my discography when i eventually get around to updating it...

note this list doesn't include any of the Mr & Mrs tracks played by UW over the past year either...such as Anceint Phat Farm Coat...

holden 11-11-2005 01:24 PM

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"Globe" - played live at Sophia, Bulgaria 7-6-05

tracks on "Broken Lovely Thing":

"jal to tokyo"
"billy goat"
"peggy sussed"
"dub shepherd"
"lenny penne"
"monkey wink"
"witness"

big screen satellite 11-11-2005 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by holden
"Globe" - played live at Sophia, Bulgaria 7-6-05

tracks on "Broken Lovely Thing":

"jal to tokyo"
"billy goat"
"peggy sussed"
"dub shepherd"
"lenny penne"
"monkey wink"
"witness"

yeah thanks, i knew some were on there - wasn't sure what order they are on Broken Lovely Thing or which ones, tbh....forgot Globe too, been playing that today too...

anyway more help is much appreciated...a definitly list of these tracks is worth keeping on top of....

MikeyC 11-11-2005 01:57 PM

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the "ambient" dub track they played at the hmh festival.

big screen satellite 11-11-2005 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyC
the "ambient" dub track they played at the hmh festival.


it must have a 'name'...anyone...? even if 'ambient track 1' or something....

Mike 11-11-2005 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
it must have a 'name'...anyone...? even if 'ambient track 1' or something....

Boop Boop

:)

noisegeek 11-11-2005 07:42 PM

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Just to be pedantic I thought I'd point out that according to the id3 tag, and the listing in the Underworldlive.com shop, the title of the new web-EP is "Lovely Broken Thing" NOT broken lovely thing. Also, while it doesn't have an id3 tag, the listing in the members archive for the Benicassm show refers to the second song as "Shake that higher" not shake it higher. Small differences I know, but as the numberonesuperfan, I figured you'd want to get it right.

gambit 11-11-2005 10:27 PM

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"Silver Boots" / "Always Loved A Film"

Can't forget that track. :)

big screen satellite 11-12-2005 01:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noisegeek
Just to be pedantic I thought I'd point out that according to the id3 tag, and the listing in the Underworldlive.com shop, the title of the new web-EP is "Lovely Broken Thing" NOT broken lovely thing. Also, while it doesn't have an id3 tag, the listing in the members archive for the Benicassm show refers to the second song as "Shake that higher" not shake it higher. Small differences I know, but as the numberonesuperfan, I figured you'd want to get it right.


no, thats exactly what i want...

there are several variations going around for evrything, and i took Broken Lovely Thing from the message thread here in the UW forum, which is called 'Broken Lovely Thing - a Message from Rick & Karl'...i should have just checked the ID, but didn'y ;)

as for Shake T Higher, Shake it Higher or Shake That Higher...i'm not sure which is right...

also to add to the list i suppose is

"untitled soundtrack" - anthongy mingella film

i'll revise the list in a few days when everyone else has added a few bits...;)

cheers for the help though guys...

undarrenworld 11-12-2005 01:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gambit
"Silver Boots" / "Always Loved A Film"

Can't forget that track.

Me too, its a pearl:)

holden 11-12-2005 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
Boop Boop

:)

Hmm...just like the "Beep Beep" segment that was so popular on the AHDO tour?

i think that, until the live songs are heard more than once or get a proper release, they should be named something descriptive and clear, like:

"HMH 7-17-05 Ambient Track 1 - 6:56"
"HMH 7-17-05 Ambient Track 2 - x:xx " (i'm forgetting the track time!)

We've loved a lot of improvs over the years...some have been played only once or twice, and lead to confusion when trying to explain which is which: "You know, the BOOM-dah_Boom squiggly acid banging track after Rowla but before KOS", etc. Others that appear more often, like "5 Points" or "Beep Beep" seem to survive the names we place on them through repetition.
Just an opinion.
Thanks to big screen satellite for keeping on top of the growing number of new stuff.

By the way, are we including
"Ancient Fat Farm Coat" or "TT" from last year's dirtyradio in the latest group of songs?

lloyd 11-12-2005 08:14 PM

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They played the ambient bit they started with at the HMH again tonight at ILT as first track, only a few minutes and again with redslights at the backscreen. So it's clearly a real track that they have been practicing on.

MN-Jeff 11-13-2005 06:39 AM

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Biro The Leggy

Hoevenen Lion 11-13-2005 07:42 AM

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Are they going to sel the new album in the record stores or only online?

Dirty0900 11-13-2005 08:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoevenen Lion
Are they going to sel the new album in the record stores or only online?

New album should be real based on Karls quotes,he still wants to release physical things.

bryantm3 11-13-2005 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MN-Jeff
Biro The Leggy

that's an outtake from ahdo, along with 020202.

froopy seal 11-14-2005 12:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
there are several variations going around for evrything, and i took Broken Lovely Thing from the message thread here in the UW forum, which is called 'Broken Lovely Thing - a Message from Rick & Karl'...i should have just checked the ID, but didn'y ;)

Yannick made a mistake: http://www.dirty.org/forums/showpost...8&postcount=40.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant we/the forum software/Yannick's keyboard misinterpreted his words. *bad seal!* *slap self*

MN-Jeff 11-14-2005 05:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3
that's an outtake from ahdo, along with 020202.

Who's to say that all the Lovely Broken Thing tracks aren't outtakes as well?? We really don't know, do we?

Althouh I'm guessing that since it's called River Run Project 03 that most of the tracks are from 2003.

big screen satellite 11-15-2005 01:14 AM

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on the set list for Benicassam, there's 'Hard Vibe' listed...i'll put that down as a new track too ;)

and its Lenne Penny...not Kenny / Kenne Penny...

and 'New Train', well thats just a 'new' way of doing Dark Train i suppose...

still its some names to add to the long list...

(all this clarification helps when people come and say 'i heard a new Underworld song the other day', or 'i'm looking for New Train'...i helps point them in the right direction...and it goes on my website's A-Z song list for tracklistings...)

Cadevil 11-15-2005 01:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
and its Lenne Penny...not Kenny / Kenne Penny...

Not to be a stickler...and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually Lenny Penne...

:cool:

big screen satellite 11-15-2005 05:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadevil
Not to be a stickler...and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually Lenny Penne...

:cool:

ok, i will correct you (as i had checked previously myself) ;)

http://www.underworldlive.com/index/...assim-2005.htm

if you log onto the uwlive site and see the handwritten set list for benicassim (link above) its definitely LennE PennY and its written in Karl's fair hand so - i reckon he'd know...

(its track 10 - its kinda hard to see but i've blown it up and cleaned the image on my pc and definitely is Lenny Penne)

EDIT:

i just checked the audio sample on the website, as well, and its listed as Lenne Penny, so who knows for sure....?? (i assume the website guys are not R&K though, and i still reckon K wrote the tracklist for benicassim, so he'd get it right first...)

phaseblue 11-15-2005 07:53 AM

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"and its Lenne Penny...not Kenny / Kenne Penny..."

"Not to be a stickler...and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually Lenny Penne..."

"Kenne (Lenny?) Penne (live track)"

"lenny penne"

"if you log onto the uwlive site and see the handwritten set list for benicassim (link above) its definitely LennE PennY and its written in Karl's fair hand so - i reckon he'd know..."


Who give's a frog's fat ass what it's called? I really don't think Karl does!

"... That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet"
William Shakespeare;)

holden 11-15-2005 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phaseblue
Who give's a frog's fat ass what it's called? I really don't think Karl does!

"... That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet"
William Shakespeare;)

Point is, one is the name, others are not. we are sticklers for details and minutia around here! i'd bet Shakespeare wouldn't appreciate it if someone called his play "Spamlet", for example ;)

big screen satellite 11-15-2005 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by holden
Point is, one is the name, others are not. we are sticklers for details and minutia around here! i'd bet Shakespeare wouldn't appreciate it if someone called his play "Spamlet", for example ;)

erm, yeah it is kinda important, hence they changed the name of the album 'a hundred years' to 'a hundred days off'....

they called it something and spelt it a specific way for a reason, whatever he says 'phase red' has it all wrong...it matters...and i do think Karl does care, he is a wordsmith and as such wants us to appreciate the art, and the spelling of a particular track is as important as the lyrics, and music...

and this is the thread for keeping track on the tracks and us anally retentive types want the right track names on our catalogues...

i'm sure born slippy would haven't have been the track it was had it been called porn slippy say?

phaseblue 11-15-2005 06:46 PM

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[QUOTE=and this is the thread for keeping track on the tracks and us anally retentive types want the right track names on our catalogues...[/QUOTE]

I do see your point!

I just think that there's been so much confusion around the name of this particular track recently (perhaps it has been sorted out as of late) that there may be no official name for it yet. This has certainly been the case with many recent Underworld tracks. I believe that if R&K wanted us to know the official name of this track we would be absolutely clear about it by now. And, although Karl is a wordsmith, and a great one at that, he often uses his talent to tranform the sound/meaning of words as well (well yeah, I guess that's what a great wordsmith does). But, from what I've seen over the years, I fell that it is often the case that Karl is more enamored with the way words sound rather than the meaning of what he is actually saying. He has even said this himself.

"I scream" / "ice cream"

I suppose this argument can also be stretched to include playing with sounds that exist within sometimes meaningless words themeselves.

"lenny penne" / "kenny penne"

I don't take half of what I hear come from the Underworld rumorworld (including Underworld themeselves) literally. The only things that I am certain of are what I hear/see from them on stage or hear/see on official releases of albums/singles (and as we've seen with Lovely Broken Thing, even the latter can sometimes lead to uncertainty).

"phase red" <----- Hmm, I like that!:rolleyes:

King of Snake 11-16-2005 01:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
and the spelling of a particular track is as important as the lyrics, and music...

hardly. UW have always said that their titles could really be anything and they don't really relate to the music at all. Songs named after greyhounds, funny words found on the street, someone calling juanita on the phone, something the kids said...I'm not saying they are all meaningless, but overall it's pretty random.

Yeah sure, we should all try and get the titles right, but to say they are as important as the lyrics or music is a bit over the top really.

big screen satellite 11-20-2005 09:20 AM

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Five ft 5 - another one then...

and i think Lonely Bollock needs a mention as a new track...unless we've already covered that off...?

I'll be back later with a current comprehensive list i suppose....

undarrenworld 11-20-2005 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MN-Jeff
Who's to say that all the Lovely Broken Thing tracks aren't outtakes as well?? We really don't know, do we?

Althouh I'm guessing that since it's called River Run Project 03 that most of the tracks are from 2003.


Yes cos Rob da Bank said, that the JAL to Tokyo was made on laptop on the flight to tokyo... It comes to my mind ... (Electraglide 2003). That was last date when uw were officially in Japan.

So now River Run Project 03 makes a sense.

undarrenworld 11-20-2005 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
it must have a 'name'...anyone...? even if 'ambient track 1' or something....


I call this song:

[color=seagreen]I found a way[/color]

(after the lyrics)

lloyd 11-20-2005 01:31 PM

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I think they had another official date in Japan later, to recieve some award if my memory dosn't let me down.

undarrenworld 11-20-2005 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by holden
Point is, one is the name, others are not. we are sticklers for details and minutia around here! i'd bet Shakespeare wouldn't appreciate it if someone called his play "Spamlet", for example ;)

Yes Im with you;)

undarrenworld 11-20-2005 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
erm, yeah it is kinda important, hence they changed the name of the album 'a hundred years' to 'a hundred days off'....

they called it something and spelt it a specific way for a reason, whatever he says 'phase red' has it all wrong...it matters...and i do think Karl does care, he is a wordsmith and as such wants us to appreciate the art, and the spelling of a particular track is as important as the lyrics, and music...

and this is the thread for keeping track on the tracks and us anally retentive types want the right track names on our catalogues...

i'm sure born slippy would haven't have been the track it was had it been called porn slippy say?

Yes thats it.

Titles are important.

Question: Its true that titles from STITI came from the names of greyhounds?

undarrenworld 11-20-2005 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake
hardly. UW have always said that their titles could really be anything and they don't really relate to the music at all. Songs named after greyhounds, funny words found on the street, someone calling juanita on the phone, something the kids said...I'm not saying they are all meaningless, but overall it's pretty random.

Yeah sure, we should all try and get the titles right, but to say they are as important as the lyrics or music is a bit over the top really.


The titles are maybe randon, but they are very important for a fans. And words are not just randon then, they have some own special meaning.

Imagine to think about an album called A Hundred Years.
AHDO is much better title.

Its hard to find a good titles.

phaseblue 11-20-2005 08:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd
I think they had another official date in Japan later, to recieve some award if my memory dosn't let me down.

This last spring they won an award from Tower Records, Japan for having the highest sales of an techno/dance artist.:)

I'm sure they have also droped into the Tomato office in Omotesando, Tokyo from time to time.

Matt

mmm skyscraper 11-22-2005 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite
on the set list for Benicassam, there's 'Hard Vibe' listed

What do you think the crossed out one is?

'Skyscraper'? (although it looks like Sensepaper)

holden 11-28-2005 07:53 AM

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Just to keep this current... based on the Japanese iTunes discovery,

"Ancient Phat Farm Coat" is released as a 19:43 version!:eek: :D
also new:
"Food a Ready" (7:22)
"JAL to Tokyo" (5:48) unmixed (seems to be 5:38 on Lovely Broken Thing)

slowhed 11-28-2005 09:26 AM

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hello all,
this could be apples and oranges with this question but I thought this the best place to ask... what's this 12" titled "King of Boots" that just appeared in my local bin stateside on Thursday?... an earlier release I missed?
thanks for the help,
Cheers!

lloyd 11-28-2005 10:19 AM

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that's a white label bootleg mix of King of Snake, yet another booty..

mark3 11-28-2005 10:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld
Question: Its true that titles from STITI came from the names of greyhounds?

Yep, Sappys Curry, Pearls Girl & Born Slippy...possible others too

big screen satellite 11-28-2005 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by holden
Just to keep this current... based on the Japanese iTunes discovery,

"Ancient Phat Farm Coat" is released as a 19:43 version!:eek: :D
also new:
"Food a Ready" (7:22)
"JAL to Tokyo" (5:48) unmixed (seems to be 5:38 on Lovely Broken Thing)


Well we might as well add...'Monkey Vanilla' too....that looks likely to be coming our way as well...


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