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rudydaduck 08-07-2010 08:48 AM

hard haunted mansion
 
http://www.hardfest.com/images/2010/Aug/HHM10_main.jpg

Tickets $65

-----original post----
anyone? halloween? anyone?

darktrain 08-07-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rudydaduck (Post 125859)
anyone? halloween? anyone?

After last year's Hard Summer fiasco I can safely say no. No no no no no no no.

khouri 08-07-2010 01:53 PM

Re: hard haunted mansion
 
Why? Are Underworld playing? I couldn't confirm that anywhere.

Yannick 08-07-2010 02:43 PM

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thinking of going, haven't been in la for a while

Chris M 08-07-2010 05:07 PM

2010-10-31 HARD Haunted Mansion - Los Angeles, CA
 
sadly HARD has once again hoodwinked underworld into headlining another under aged candy raving event -

stay tuned for the official press release from HARD, but here is our press leak in the mean time-

http://thescenestar.typepad.com/ss/2...d-mansion.html

starfox203 08-07-2010 07:58 PM

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FAIL!

Why Underworld? Why?

Chris M 08-07-2010 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 125866)
Why? Are Underworld playing? I couldn't confirm that anywhere.

check it, yo -

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...ad.php?t=11116

starfox203 08-07-2010 08:53 PM

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Non fans. Teenage tweekers. Riots. Have you seen the videos from last year. This is terrible for Angelenos.

http://thescenestar.typepad.com/ss/2...d-mansion.html

mmm skyscraper 08-07-2010 09:12 PM

Re: 2010-10-30+31 HARD Haunted Mansion - Los Angeles, CA
 
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/...cef0909dcb.jpg

khouri 08-07-2010 09:14 PM

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Fuck me.

cured 08-08-2010 12:03 AM

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ugh. Gotta go. Won't like the rest of the acts, though, nor the crowd.

cured 08-08-2010 01:22 AM

Re: 2010-10-30+31 HARD Haunted Mansion - Los Angeles, CA
 
^^ says it all :(

I remember meeting some people who flew out from Australia to catch em at that party. Had to break the news that cabs weren't exactly accessible in Inglewood, too.

darktrain 08-09-2010 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 125865)
After last year's Hard Summer fiasco I can safely say no. No no no no no no no.

Ugh...from the original post I thought this was just a general inquiry...now that u/w is confirmed I'll have to eat my words and go. But...
- I am EXTREMELY saddened that the band chose to book with HARD again after last summer's clusterfuck and their recent LA event (with MIA/NERD) being canceled. Is this really the only way u/w can justify coming to the states nowadays?
- I REALLY hope the boys will do a solo show in town before/after.
- We really need to get a dirty crew together to brave the kiddies. Strength in numbers!

khouri 08-09-2010 02:22 PM

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I'm praying they perform a solo show in San Francisco or Las Vegas or somewhere else relatively nearby. I'll go to Hard Halloween but I need the pure Underworld experience as well. Fuck it, I'll go to New York if I have to.

ultradave 08-09-2010 03:26 PM

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i was hoping they'd come to Los Angeles again, but not in this fashion...

i however, will have to go - if it's the only way to see underworld... we should arrange a dirty meet - perhaps a pint before the show... anyone interested, let me know. i'm pretty familiar with these parts.

TheBang 08-09-2010 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 125960)
- I am EXTREMELY saddened that the band chose to book with HARD again after last summer's clusterfuck and their recent LA event (with MIA/NERD) being canceled. Is this really the only way u/w can justify coming to the states nowadays?

Karl mentioned in an interview during the OwB tour that they lose money when they travel to the US, like the Sept. 2007 shows which were all just Underworld solo shows. Everything since then has had a festival show included, which helps subsidize the trip. 2008 - UMF, APW, Virgin with a side-show in Atlanta. 2009 - HARD Summer with side shows in Vegas, Oakland, Canada.

If festival shows are the only way to make it financially feasible to come to the states, then I think that's better than not having any shows in the US.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 125960)
- I REALLY hope the boys will do a solo show in town before/after.

Unfortunately, the festival show usually means an exclusive on the artist in that region, which means you'll probably have to travel outside the LA area if you want to see a solo show.

ultradave 08-09-2010 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 125980)
If festival shows are the only way to make it financially feasible to come to the states, then I think that's better than not having any shows in the US.

I fully agree with that comment. Festival UW is better than no UW.

...just wish these US Festival Shows could be more like those in Europe...

darktrain 08-09-2010 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ultradave (Post 125981)
I fully agree with that comment. Festival UW is better than no UW.

Indeed...especially if they sound as great as the Ibiza show. Goodness!
(initial sadness turning quickly to excitement)

starfox203 08-09-2010 04:39 PM

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No problem with a festival show, but HARD shows are just a bunch of teenagers on drugs who don't know the band or their music. I have no interest in spending my night surrounded by a crowd that this type of festival draws, especially at Halloween.

cured 08-09-2010 08:54 PM

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Every year I hold out hope that I'll see them on the Coachella flyer at the end of January...been quite a few years since that last happened.

Ah well, gotta suck it up and go. If there is a SF show the night before I may go to that, though. I've been to a HARD party at the Shrine for Halloween before...

Quote:

just a bunch of teenagers on drugs who don't know the band or their music
...bingo.

stimpee 08-10-2010 02:38 AM

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So are these the same promoters as last years mess?
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...ead.php?t=9936

Banstylin' 08-10-2010 02:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 125997)
So are these the same promoters as last years mess?
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...ead.php?t=9936

That is correct stimpee... awful promoters, just hope nothing bad happens this time around.

I would only go if several dirts met up and hung together, bring balance to all them mad ravers.

TheBang 08-10-2010 04:43 AM

Re: 2010-10-30+31 HARD Haunted Mansion - Los Angeles, CA
 
http://www.hardfest.com/images/2010/Aug/HHM10_main.jpg

Underworld is playing on Oct. 31. Tickets are $65:

http://fla.vor.us/172681-HARD-HAUNTE...iew&_pky=72681

SappysCurry 08-10-2010 11:35 AM

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Check out that flyer, it says the night is being recorded for Red Bull Music Academy Radio. So this will be broadcast somewhere?

TheBang 08-10-2010 03:44 PM

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Sure looks like it, eh? If you go to the URL, http://www.rbmaradio.com, you can see streams for a lot of previous live shows. Of course, like the Italia Wave festival, UW might have some say in whether they are broadcast or not.

Dirty0900 08-10-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 126028)
Sure looks like it, eh? If you go to the URL, http://www.rbmaradio.com, you can see streams for a lot of previous live shows. Of course, like the Italia Wave festival, UW might have some say in whether they are broadcast or not.

Probably a good chance of getting a full broadcast seeing the album will be fully released after this gig. The iTunes gig only had the new singles that were public knowledge. Bird 1 etc is only really out there on RTSR and here etc. Why give your new stuff away for cheap/free?

cured 08-10-2010 10:51 PM

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Gary Richards (Destructo) throws parties at the Shrine all the time. I'm not worried about this party having the problems the show at the Forum had.

khouri 08-11-2010 01:58 PM

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I went to Hard Halloween a couple of years ago to see Soulwax and Simian Mobile Disco and the Shrine is actually quite great. Lots of outdoor stages and mobile bars and places to relax, and a lot of people had really cool costumes for the occasion. But since then, Hard fucked up my last Underworld gig and everything you hear about the obnoxious teenage ravers is completely true. Not the ideal situation for Underworld.

ultradave 08-12-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ultradave (Post 125975)
i however, will have to go...

i no longer agree with my own statement for speculation that UW will be playing Coachella 4-15-11... Can we get an official confirmation on this??? :eek:

darktrain 08-12-2010 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ultradave (Post 126125)
i no longer agree with my own statement for speculation that UW will be playing Coachella 4-15-11... Can we get an official confirmation on this??? :eek:

I don't think the Coachella lineup is officially released until January.

bazwint 08-13-2010 05:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 126132)
I don't think the Coachella lineup is officially released until January.

That's correct. 2003 was the last time. They're due. Please let it be true!!

starfox203 08-18-2010 10:56 AM

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Oh, and $65 for a ticket to this?

Plus, after a teenage raver died in LA a few months ago, this think will be swarming with cops and security.

No, thanks.

Chris M 08-18-2010 11:13 AM

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a small breath of hope - a close source recently mentioned that contracts are being negotiated with an additional event/promoter for the same weekend. keep those fingers crossed!

stimpee 08-18-2010 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bazwint (Post 142900)
That's correct. 2003 was the last time. They're due. Please let it be true!!

Theyre also rumoured to play Glastonbury every year but havent played since 1999.

Jon Paul 08-18-2010 02:39 PM

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There's been some rank (as in smelling) journalism on the part of the LA Times who didn't write much about the HARD fiasco last summer but have pumped article after article on how great their 2010 summer show was going to be. They tied Gary Richard's efforts into a "rebirth" of the "cool rave scene" in L.A.... which for anyone who lives here or saw the catastrophe last August is a big effin joke.

I love the band, I love the music, and live Underworld has probably been among the more spiritual experiences I've ever had in a concert setting... but frankly I'm going to sit down after trick-or-treating with my 2yr old step-daughter and just listen to the new album... instead of wading through the mess at the Shrine. It's a poor decision to play that particular event. I recognize how we never get to see the band, but this attitude of "Well shucks, we GOTTA go," is the kind of attitude that rewards Richards. Well, that and the L.A. parents who are blindly oblivious to what their 16-18 yr old daughters are wearing out. Aside from missing Organic Festival in 1996, I've seen them Every time they come to the area... but I'm putting my foot down here. Not worth that kind of money to support a bad business. Sorry guys.

bryantm3 08-18-2010 03:35 PM

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wasn't this the gig last year where they oversold the venue and the police raided the place for violating fire code? i live in GA so i won't be going anyway, but it sounds like a bunch of jackasses.

darktrain 08-18-2010 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Paul (Post 143044)
I recognize how we never get to see the band, but this attitude of "Well shucks, we GOTTA go," is the kind of attitude that rewards Richards. Well, that and the L.A. parents who are blindly oblivious to what their 16-18 yr old daughters are wearing out. Aside from missing Organic Festival in 1996, I've seen them Every time they come to the area... but I'm putting my foot down here. Not worth that kind of money to support a bad business. Sorry guys.

Short of Lush reuniting, Underworld is the ONLY group I would cave in to seeing amid the terribleness that is the HARD crowd.
I GOTTA go:o
(unless of course there's a one-off gig close by as an alternate choice)

khouri 08-18-2010 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Paul (Post 143044)
I recognize how we never get to see the band, but this attitude of "Well shucks, we GOTTA go," is the kind of attitude that rewards Richards. Well, that and the L.A. parents who are blindly oblivious to what their 16-18 yr old daughters are wearing out. Aside from missing Organic Festival in 1996, I've seen them Every time they come to the area... but I'm putting my foot down here. Not worth that kind of money to support a bad business. Sorry guys.

I fully support this and wish I had the strength of will to join your protest, but I'm too much of an Underworld junkie. I went to the Shrine Hardfest a couple of Halloweens ago and it was pretty fun. But I was at the riot police show at the Forum and if not for Underworld, I would never return to another Richards event.

cured 08-18-2010 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 143049)
I fully support this and wish I had the strength of will to join your protest, but I'm too much of an Underworld junkie. I went to the Shrine Hardfest a couple of Halloweens ago and it was pretty fun. But I was at the riot police show at the Forum and if not for Underworld, I would never return to another Richards event.

That's exactly my situation. Went to HARD a couple years ago, was at the Forum last year. I absolutely hate the line-up with every part of my body minus the fact that my favorite band--ever--is playing there. I'm not 25 anymore and don't have the "well maybe I'll just catch them next year" mentality. I talked about this with another huge UW fan and, despite the fact every single one of our friends either said "f*ck no" or "never again" we are going to go...then bolt as soon as UW is done.

Jon Paul 08-18-2010 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cured (Post 143054)
we are going to go...then bolt as soon as UW is done.

...If they go on. :eek:

...and yea, sorry to sound like a detractor. I'm still a junkie for all things UW. I loved the Santa Monica Civic show in '99...and chucked every penny I had to fly to London then bus out to Homelands to see their very Next show. I'm fairly confident they'll come back around to the West Coast at something outside of a crappy festival setting. Until then, I hope that they DO get onstage and I know for those Dirts in attendance, it will be spectacular. :rolleyes:


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