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BishBash 04-04-2016 09:34 AM

If Rah
 
There's a video now. The edit's not bad actually. Zips along.
http://vevo.ly/sorpWz

King of Snake 04-04-2016 10:24 AM

Re: If Rah
 
I get an *oops cannot stream* ... kind of message.

edit: it seems to work from here:
http://pitchfork.com/news/64569-unde...h-video-watch/

TheBang 04-05-2016 02:48 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Available on YouTube now too:


Mike 04-05-2016 09:52 PM

Re: If Rah
 
This is a song that divides opinion, so I am disappointed that there isn't a more inspiring video.

I have warmed to the album art after seeing more interpretations through prints and posters, and there is an accompanying video which is used in this promo that wish would be utilised in a video.


TheBang 04-05-2016 10:27 PM

Re: If Rah
 
There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted. I'm not sure where all exactly it is playable from:


philth 04-06-2016 02:47 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Like the song. Don't much like the official video. Like the style of the visual experiment.

The is a great shot in the official video with the dancer moving slowly on the left of the screen and the really long shadow to the right, but the rest of it doesn't hang together for me. Maybe I just don't get it! :) Didn't much like the I Exhale video either.

potatobroth 04-06-2016 05:37 AM

Re: If Rah
 
i haven't really liked an UW video since Footwear Repairs. They're fine, but after one watch, I never watch again.

holden 04-06-2016 08:39 AM

Re: If Rah
 
It makes sense that electronic music, so often inspiring dance, or thrown into the EDM category, should feature dancers in videos. I like the freeform nature of the routine, much like an uptempo version of the Chemical Brothers' recent "Wide Open" vid. Yet that had a concept...the dancer turning to mesh. Here, it's just a nicely synchronized routine. I guess I like a little variety (see modern dancers in UW's "Moon in Water"... Great quick cuts of multiple dancers, in studio and nature, group and individual routines). This and the vid for " I Exhale" are one note ideas.

BTW, I do like most of the Barking vids. Less crazy about those from OWB. Yeah, they don't make em like Shoewear Repairs anymore!

rohanworth 04-06-2016 08:59 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Yes, agree with the view that the vids haven't always been that inspiring or whatever. I do love this one though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfH8qHFvEEY

txjaxx 04-06-2016 05:40 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 160606)
There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted. I'm not sure where all exactly it is playable from:


Can someone rip this with Keepvid? It's not viewable in the US.

sbommer 04-07-2016 10:42 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by txjaxx (Post 160621)
Can someone rip this with Keepvid? It's not viewable in the US.

It's also blocked in Denmark, so I would also appreciate an alternative link.

joethelion 04-07-2016 02:19 PM

Re: If Rah
 
I dunno... I've liked a fair number of videos since 'Footwear Repairs' (Push, KOS, TMO, most of the ones off of Barking... oh, and I did like the one for "Ring Road")

but this... just seemed uninspired. Like, I feel like I've seen it before - even down to the costuming.

However, I really do like this radio edit... it's probably the first time I've ever preferred an edit over the album version...

philth 04-07-2016 04:19 PM

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The digital promo for If Rah just arrived along with a Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub and the radio edit.

The Herbert dub is interesting, a long slow build, quirky, but better for listening than for the dancefloor I suspect.

Oh, and an instrumental too. Almost forgot. Time to invert an isolate the vocals... :)

BrotherLovesDub 04-07-2016 09:10 PM

Re: If Rah
 
drooling over the Herbert mix. can't wait to get that.

marcolphus 04-07-2016 11:52 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Can you provide the tracklisting for this promo?

philth 04-08-2016 01:57 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcolphus (Post 160659)
Can you provide the tracklisting for this promo?

If Rah (Original Mix) [07:13]
If Rah (Instrumental) [07:13]
If Rah (Matthew Herbert's Lunar Dub) [07:54]
If Rah (Radio Edit) [03:34]

marcolphus 04-08-2016 02:59 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Thanks!!

negative1 04-08-2016 04:40 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philth (Post 160660)
If Rah (Original Mix) [07:13]
If Rah (Instrumental) [07:13]
If Rah (Matthew Herbert's Lunar Dub) [07:54]
If Rah (Radio Edit) [03:34]

thanks, added to uk mk3 listing.

later
-1

TheBang 04-08-2016 05:28 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 160606)
There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted.

I've uploaded it here:


BrotherLovesDub 04-08-2016 07:30 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Oh wow. An Instrumental If Rah. That's great news. Hope this comes out on 12".

khouri 04-08-2016 08:08 PM

Re: If Rah
 
The only other instrumental mix I can recall being officially released was Scribble, which IMO is the superior version of that High Contrast version of the song. If Rah is probably my least favorite track on BB, but maybe I'll come around with the instrumental.

marcolphus 04-09-2016 02:25 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Bird 1 and Always Loved a Film also have instrumental versions (on promos and digital though).

kontakt1968 04-09-2016 07:43 AM

Re: If Rah
 
the whole of Barking was released as instrumentals on a U.S promo cd.

saintrik 04-09-2016 08:42 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Love the song... But really underwhelmed by the video... Nice concept - well shot and edited, but it just seems unfinished to me.

I found myself messing around with the different video elements last night and came up with this:

https://youtu.be/-DgtCiMxKmw

Not necessarily any better or worse - but seems to harkens back to earlier, more layered UW videos.

Cheers.

khouri 04-09-2016 04:08 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kontakt1968 (Post 160694)
the whole of Barking was released as instrumentals on a U.S promo cd.

WHAT. I gotta find this. I stand corrected.

purlieu 04-13-2016 07:41 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 160638)
However, I really do like this radio edit... it's probably the first time I've ever preferred an edit over the album version...

For me: Ring Road, with that chord building up to the last chorus. KOS Barking Mix. And strangely, Pearl's Girl, which I find works better as a 'song' rather than a long sprawling piece with vocal passages.

negative1 04-13-2016 08:18 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 160698)
WHAT. I gotta find this. I stand corrected.

you were the third person to post that you wanted it.

OT : https://www.borndirty.org/forums/sho...+instrumentals

and:

https://www.borndirty.org/forums/sho...2&postcount=44

later
-1

txjaxx 04-14-2016 07:48 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 160682)
I've uploaded it here:

https://vimeo.com/162142646

Thanks!

TheBang 04-19-2016 04:42 PM

Re: If Rah
 
If Rah (Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub) can be heard here at the 23:05 mark:

http://www.benzmixes.com/turned-on-1...-maclean-uffe/

cdave2 04-20-2016 10:36 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Oh, that is NICE. Takes me back to Sweet Exorcist a bit. Thanks, Bang!

kontakt1968 04-24-2016 08:54 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Really like the lunar dub wonder when this will get a release?
Just realized theres valhalla shimmer in the lyrics one of my favourite plug ins!

Lx_Nen 04-24-2016 10:55 AM

Re: If Rah
 
There's a 4 track promo CD with it on ebay for silly money.

Yet again I have to wonder why people who want music on CD are being made to give large amounts of money to random ebay sellers.

Current business model: Band pays for CD, gives it to random person. Random person puts it on ebay for 40 quid. Fan buys it.
Result: Band out of pocket having paid for manufacture of CD. Ebay makes approx 2x normal CD single cost in fees, random person makes a lot more, fan pays ridiculous money.

Rational model: Band pays for CD, Fan gives them money for it. Band makes more, fan spends less, everybody apart from Ebay and random person is better off.

If exclusivity is the problem, just delay posting the CD until after the promotional exclusive period is over. If price is the problem, charge more - the market will obviously bear high costs. If post and packing is the problem, sell subscriptions - 'all 6 promo CD singles for this album, to be posted once the last one is done, 50 quid', done deal.

philth 05-05-2016 02:20 PM

Re: If Rah
 
Two more If Rah remixes landed today. Can't find samples online yet.

If Rah (Voiski Remix) - 5:47
If Rah (Voiski Sleepless Remix) - 6:34

"The ever impressive Parisian producer Voiski has created two mind blowing remixes of Underworld’s new single 'If Rah' from their amazing ninth studio album 'Barbara Barbara, We Face a Shining Future’.

Using the vocals effectively in both remixes as he builds up the main assault, to unleash two cracking Techno tracks. Both these remixes are bound to turn up the heat of any dance floor."

joethelion 05-06-2016 11:19 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lx_Nen (Post 160901)
'all 6 promo CD singles for this album, to be posted once the last one is done, 50 quid', done deal.


I absolutely wish bands would do this...

...and if labels did that in the 90's... man... I would have spent soooo much less money on Depeche Mode singles ;)

negative1 05-06-2016 01:37 PM

Re: If Rah
 
new order is doing a good job of releasing all the singles on cd/vinyl, with lots
of remixes for 3 so far. they are also releasing stems for 2 tracks and a 2cd
set of the extended mixes for all the tracks, which most of them were on
vinyl (there are 2 mixes that have been changed).

would be nice for underworld to follow suit.

later
-1

philth 05-12-2016 08:51 AM

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Record labels, will they ever learn...

Troy McClure 05-12-2016 03:11 PM

Re: If Rah
 
I don't know what makes for an interesting remix, but I like the Voiski Sleepless Remix of If Rah.

Georg. 05-18-2016 01:58 AM

Re: If Rah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lx_Nen (Post 160901)
There's a 4 track promo CD with it on ebay for silly money.
Yet again I have to wonder why people who want music on CD are being made to give large amounts of money to random ebay sellers.

Here is a a deeper look at who is making the money out of the promo CDs (NOT Underworld obiviously!!! :mad:).

Past ebay sales for the "I Exhale" promo CD (2 Tracks)

end date - price - seller
06-04-2016 - £11,49 - luckylarryspromoshack
09-04-2016 - £17,00 - luckylarryspromoshack
12-04-2016 - £10,21 - luckylarryspromoshack
17-04-2016 - £10,50 - luckylarryspromoshack
20-04-2016 - £ 5,88 - luckylarryspromoshack
23-04-2016 - £ 6,56 - luckylarryspromoshack
26-04-2016 - £ 3,53 - luckylarryspromoshack
29-04-2016 - £ 4,24 - luckylarryspromoshack
15-05-2016 - £ 4,19 - kingcinder69


Past ebay sales for the "If Rah" promo CD (4 Tracks)

26-04-2016 - £15,49 - luckylarryspromoshack
29-04-2016 - £21,09 - luckylarryspromoshack
08-05-2016 - £21,87 - luckylarryspromoshack
15-05-2016 - £18,00 - luckylarryspromoshack
17-05-2016 - £39,00 - eazeism
23-05-2016 - £12,50 - eazeism
26-05-2016 - £24,00 - luckylarryspromoshack

As you can see one seller made £169,86 from selling 13 promo CDs at ebay...!! (they were never intented to be used as promos!?)
I can't understand why Underworld doesn't want to make that money?! :confused:
I would happily pay them my money for the CDs or a lossless download (at underworldlive.com), but.... :(

BrotherLovesDub 05-18-2016 09:46 AM

Re: If Rah
 
They do want to make money, they just want to make $100 per shipment of a box set to the US.

saintrik 05-19-2016 07:58 PM

Re: If Rah
 
http://d250ptlkmugbjz.cloudfront.net...795323_300.jpg

This is now available:

IF RAH
1 If Rah (Radio Edit) 00:03:34
2 If Rah (Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub) 00:07:51
3 If Rah (Voiski Remix) 00:05:47
4 If Rah (Voiski Sleepless Remix) 00:06:34

http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/if-.../0060254795323


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