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Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

well this is going to be fun in a death-throes, take-you-down-with-me way

on one hand, it could be framed so that people will get *tired* of talking about how fucked we are in the economy, and will more than welcome the dirt n scandal that smear campaigns try to make legitimate.

or this is the sad hail mary that'll be too transparent to ignore, and mccain's next debate is going to feature a few strong words that could make either candidate look bad depending on how they're handled. ol' crustus doesnt have much left to lose, but he hasnt lost the race by any means, so now it's all about seeing if he'll crack

i hope it's sufficiently transparent that people would be at least disappointed at mcfudders' cynicism. the idea to publicy announce that they're running a smear campaign is a hopeful sign...

Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

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Originally Posted by dubman (Post 103358)

*tired*

You're on my mind too.

Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

McCain just keeps sinking lower and lower in my estimation. At a rally yesterday afternoon:

At one point, McCain asked, “Who is the real Barack Obama?” A member of the crowd yelled out, “a terrorist!” McCain paused while the audience laughed at the comment, and then continued with his attack — without condemning or admonishing the audience member.

(Watch it here.)

Which mirrors his running mate's non-response yesterday when an audience member yelled the words "Kill him!". :rolleyes:

Combined with the rot spewing from the mouths of the McCain and Palin themselves (in particular, the terrorism-linking, and the "Obama's not like you and I" veiled racism) I just hope McCain's notorious temper is revealed to the world in this upcoming debate. Perhaps I've got a short memory, but I don't even recall Bush being this negative back in 2004. And to think back to the Democrat convention when Obama sought to rise above it by insisting that neither candidate should question the intentions, the honour or the patriotism of the other - that both should take that as a given.

How desperate must McCain be right now?

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 103382)

Perhaps I've got a short memory, but I don't even recall Bush being this negative back in 2004.........

How desperate must McCain be right now?

It got ugly in 2004, but Bush had Rove to thank for that. They were sly.
They didn't use as many direct slander attacks, but didn't condem those who did.
They always had that layer of separation, even though the "mud-slingers" were usually associated with Bush/Cheney/Rove/etc. somehow.

McCain should have been the Republicant canidate in 2000. I didn't like him then, but he was nothing like this.

But let's put this in perspective. George W.(The W stands for Dumb Ass) Bush beat out McCain in 2000.

We've all seen what W has done for the past 8 years. And he is the guy who bested McCain. Now McCain is running and willing to do anything to win. No attack is too low. No lie is too untruthful.

Now this Obama knows terrorist garbage. (My grandfather worked directly for Jimmy Hoffa up until Hoffa died, a year before I was born, so does that have anything to do with me? NO)
Plus this "He is not like you & I".
That just plays to the jackasses out there that call him Obama Bin Laden or the White Robe & Cross Buring fools left in this country. That's the kind of voters you are desperate to get? What's next for McCain
"Vote for me, or Obama will have sex with your daughters. And once they go black.......You don't want that!"

Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

Even Rove has been saying that McCain's gone too far. Of course I expect him to say that about the Dems, but when he says it about the Republican candidate, then you know you're neck deep in crap.

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McCain was a member of group that was all sorts of terrible

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Since Sunday, Democrats have been buzzing about the re-revelation that during the 1980s, Sen. John McCain served on the board of a far-right conservative organization that had supplied arms and funds to paramilitary organizations in Latin America.

Democratic strategist Paul Begala lit the fire when, during an appearance on Meet the Press, he warned that this relatively obscure detail from McCain's past could draw him into a guilt-by-association game he was bound to regret.

"John McCain sat on the board of...the U.S. Council for World Freedom," said Begala, "The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League - the parent organization - which ADL said 'has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.'"

But McCain's involvement in the U.S. Council for World Freedom, which extended from 1981 through, possibly, 1986 is significant -- not merely because it ties him to unsavory characters but because it firmly associates him with a foreign policy that was, at the time and still, controversial.

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According to a March 1989 Washington Post article, the USCWF coordinated funding efforts with sources in Taiwan and South Korea to help contras in Nicaragua purchase some $5 million worth of arms. The group was charged with operating a plane that was shot down while flying supplies to these very same rebels. The council, according to a 1986 New York Times report, "provided $10 million to $25 million in cash and 'in-kind' aid: four to eight small aircraft (''non gun-mounted'') to the contras, boots to rebels fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan, $20,000 in medicines to Cambodian resistance forces, and help for groups in Mozambique, Ethiopia and other countries." Singlaub and the council also reportedly provided Neo Hom and other factions of the Lao resistance with aid in the form of clothing and medicine - aid that the group subsequently turned into a scheme to raise fund from refugees.

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 103429)

you're neck deep in crap.

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*Please refer to Crunch thread for a better definition.

Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

Well, McCain certainly is exploring all possible angles with this Ayers crap. It's apparently no longer an issue of Obama serving on a charitable foundation's board with the ex-terrorist - now it's all about Obama's honesty:

“We need to know the full extent of the relationship, because of whether Sen. Obama is telling the truth to the American people or not. That’s the question.”

(McCain) says he doesn’t care about “an old washed-up terrorist,” but cares that Obama has referred to him as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood.”

So does McCain really want to get into a debate over who's been telling the tallest tales in this election?

Obama camp's response:

“It’s now clear that John McCain would rather launch angry, personal attacks than talk about the economy or defend his risky bailout scheme that hands over billions in taxpayer dollars to the same irresponsible Wall Street banks and lenders that got us into this mess – a scheme that guarantees taxpayers will lose money. While Barack Obama ensured that the rescue plan that passed Congress protects taxpayers and homeowners, John McCain’s scheme has been panned by experts and observers from across the political spectrum”

Re: John McCain - American dumbass (sorry, couldn't resist)

Angry certainly appears to be the right word.

This is obviously going for the person rather than the policy, but still worrying nonetheless...

'McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: 'DON'T TOUCH ME.' The woman started to explain...McCain interrupted her: 'DON'T TOUCH ME,' he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. 'DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO?' McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the 'bring it on' position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked."

McCain Exploded With Rage During Gambling Outing

I notice Biden has today been challenging McCain to look at Obama in the eye and say the things he has to say to him. I can see the tactics behind that.

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So, these are the folks that believe McCain's rhetoric about Obama being a terrorist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

Both of these videos are distrubing to me for countless reasons.
But, one thing sticks out more than anything.
Since when is being a Muslim a crime? (Or Gay for that matter) Do McCain supporters (roughly half the nation) really believe that if your a Muslim, you are a terrorist?

Does McCain and his camp not realize that by doing this, they are stirring up a big boiling pot of hate and biggotry. If they win, then they turn that into policy. If they lose, their followers become bitter and a new wave of hate spreads through America against Muslims.

It would seem that Muslim is the new "Black" and Gay is the new "Jew" to the Republicants.
Didn't Rush FatFuck Limbaugh say racisim is dead in this country because Obama was nominated. Seems pretty alive and well. And it seems to stem from the Republicant side of the isle.