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Isn't the same with any popular rock band?

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well... I didn't think that that was so common nowadays

and the just the 'devotion' or whatever to a band to
a) ditch your ride
b) not know how the hell you're going to get back to your state
c) the whole "I respect him so much as an artist that I won't sleep with him, but I'll demean myself enough to put on a 'show' with a random stranger"

...but maybe I'm a bit biased as - I can't stand maynard's voice whatsoever

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yeah, whereas most bands will just get flashed or something, tool will inspire the right kind of guy to really awkwardly say that he'd give maynard a blowjob.

tool fans are incredible and by incredible i mean hilariously defensive.

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Yeah, but you guys are missing out on some fairly unique and amazing music because of the fans. I get it though, and also all the things about the band that would put one off, regardless of the fans. Also, it really, really rewards repeated listens, which I understand most of you aren't inclined to spend the time on.

I had a big long post about the virtues of Tool, jokingly indulging GreenPea's joking call for discussion, but fuck it. Who cares but me? No one. That's who.

The Transformers movie is going to suck. I got tickets to a sneak preview for free, though. Fuck am I ever going to go see it and hate it.

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I've definitely tried to enjoy Tool but I just can't. I need a little sex in my music. This is not meant as a slam on Tool - it's just not my sort of thing. It's the same reason I became really attracted to the band Suede when grunge dominated American airwaves.

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Tool's tension and release has some weird similarity, for me, with what I got out of really good fighting game matches. I don't know if anyone will understand that, but I said that to my buddy whom I used to play a lot of Tekken with and who also likes Tool, and he claimed to get what I was saying. I do find it fairly unique...I don't know another band that seems to operate on me in terms of the same parameters as they do.

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Originally Posted by joethelion

There is no doubt she is a fucking idiot but I seriously think this sort of thing goes on with any band that has female fans. I am not a Tool fan btw, I really only like their first 2 releases.

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Originally Posted by adam

Adam, listen to some Neurosis. Their sound has nothing to do with Tool but they definetely are able to build a lot of tension + cathartic moments with their music. Their vocals tend to be on the side of modern hardcore yells or something though with some clean passages that are still quite harsh.

Some of their new tracks are available at their MySpace page here:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=41484480

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Originally Posted by Scott Warner

There is something about catharis in music though that is almost like having an orgasm even though the source is not sex or there is anything "sexy" about the music itself.

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

No album should be under 30 minutes? No, there are a lot I can think of that certainly SHOULDN'T be longer than 30 minutes. To bring up an example from this thread Human After All shouldn't have been longer than that. I just don't think you should have to pay $15+ for only that much music (unless it's really great).

The Justice album is pretty good, I would love to hear these tracks in a club. I don't quite understand the whole "album of the decade" mentality. It's fun and has a few pretty solid tracks but it's not quite Discovery, you know? Which is an album I have some problems with besides.

This thread does bring up a good point...is it ever okay to hate the music because of the fans? To be honest, there are a few bands that I won't listen to because of the fans (TOOL), and a few I don't really like admitting to (Nine Inch Nails) because the fans are really obnoxious. It was kind of a hard realization...a few years ago I got into King Crimson, Yes, and Genesis hardcore, basically hoping that someday I'd meet someone who likes those bands and it was pretty disappointing...have you ever actually MET someone who's big into Genesis? I think caring about what the fans are like really destroys the point of the music. So what if a guy who bugs you is their biggest fan?

i'm really big into genesis, actually. i have like 50 bootlegs of live concerts and at least 3 copies of every album from 1970-1986. no kidding, i even did this live compilation last year:
http://genesis-movement.org/php/show...s.php?uid=3876
so... i hope i don't annoy you. ;)