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And beyond the Katie Couric interview, Palin actually took four questions from the press corps that follow her around today. Wanna read her pitif-I mean inspiring statement and then her idio-I mean insightful answers (with my highlights)?


PALIN: Every American student needs to come through this area so that, especially this younger generation of Americans is, to be in a position of never forgetting what happened here and never repeating, never allowing a repeat of what happened here. I wish every American would come through here. I wish every world leader would come through here, and understand what it is that took place here and more importantly how America came together and united to commit to never allowing this to happen again. And just to hear and from and see these good New Yorkers who are rebuilding not just this are but helping to rebuild America has been very, very inspiring and encouraging. These are the good Americans who are committed to peace and security and its been an absolute honor getting to meet these folks today.

CNN: On the topic of never letting this happen again, do you agree with the way the Bush administration has handled the war on terrorism, is there anything you would do differently?

A: I agree with the Bush administration that we take the fight to them. We never again let them come onto our soil and try to destroy not only our democracy, but communities like the community of New York. Never again. So yes, I do agree with taking the fight to the terrorists and stopping them over there.

POLITICO: Do you think our presence in Iraq and afghan and our continued presence there is inflaming islamic extremists?

A: I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security of our nation, again, because the mission is to take the fight over there. do not let them come over here and attempt again what they accomplished here, and that was some destruction. terrible destruction on that day. but since September 11, Americans uniting and rebuilding and committing to never letting that happen again.

POLITICO: Do you support the reelection bids of embattled Alaska Republicans, Rep. Don Young and Sen. Ted Stevens?

A: Ted Stevens trial started a couple days ago. We’ll see where that goes.

POLITICO: Are you gong to vote for them?
[no answer.]

JERSEY JOURNAL: What do you think of bailout package before congress?

A: I don't support that until the provisions that Sen. McCain has offered are implemented in Paulson's proposals.



Seriously? "And that was some destruction"? That's how you define what happened on 9/11? And you can almost sense the relief in her last answer, like "finally a question I can just answer by saying 'I agree with Big John'". No wonder they keep her safely locked away.

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Unbelievable.

I swear most of us here would make a better VP than this person!

It's just embarrassing isn't it?

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I was about to post this, Deck. Can't make this shit up.

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Well, clearly Katie Couric is sexist.

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WTF?!

"Our next door neighbours are foreign countries"...

Must be really scary with Russia just over the water there, eh?

RED DAWN! WOLVERIIIIIIINES! FUCK YEAH!!!

She is truly off her rocker if she thinks that that qualifies her to be Veep. Hell, I have visited more foreign countries in a year than she has all her life. I guess I should be running for Prime Minister next time round, then. :rolleyes:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVfTCVGZKg

Hey, has anyone talked about Sarah Palin's witchhunting pastor yet (about a minute in)? And by witchhunting, I mean he literally goes hunting for witches in Africa, which can result in murder.

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this truly is some red dawn stupidity!

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Yep - we've done him already. There are so many things to rake up on this poor woman that one kind of loses track on everything that has been covered already. I am beginning to feel quite sorry for her really, because I don't think that she realised for a minute the extent to which every bit of her life was going to be put under a microscope like this.

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my innapropriate comment of the day:

even Trig is embarrased at how retarded his mom is.

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I can't feel sorry for her. If she came out really trying - like by accepting the nomination with grace, ideas, and humility rather than sarcastic douche-baggery, or if she didn't try for weeks to convince us she said "thanks but no thanks" when every single person on the planet knew she was full of shit, and on and on - then maybe I'd feel sorry for her. But she didn't. She came out with guns a' blazin', acting as if she thought she could say absolutely anything she wanted with impunity. So while I know you don't mean you feel deeply sorry for her, I just can't seem to feel even a tiny sliver of empathy for the woman. In fact, I'm rooting for her political career to completely implode, because I've actually seen interviews with her friends and political cohorts where they've said that Palin's told them that her ultimate goal is to be President. I never want her anywhere near the White House. Ever.

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Ouch! I really shouldn't have laughed at this. Really I shouldn't....







:o:D

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i mean why even name that kid trig
he's never going to make it that far in math
bad-um......... tsk tsk.

that couric interview with her is insane. she's insane.
republicans arent doubting. not when the MEDIA IS BEING SOOO UNFAIR TO HER BY ASKING QUESTIONS WITH AN AGENDA

seriously, she's locked in for them. anything that makes her look bad is purely external.

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I think even laura bush underestimated how much sarah needs to learn on the job when she said that in an interview the other day. McCain in the Membrane!

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Did you watch the video? He's placing his hand on her, praying that God deliver her from witchcraft and give her money to win her campaign.

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Funny, but sooooo not funny.

Like part 2 of her interview with Katie. Funny to watch like a stand up comedian bombing. Not funny because there still is a chance of this lady being in office.

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Yeah I did.

Let me explain what I mean by "sorry for her" - it is more "compassion" in the Buddhist sense than it is "empathy" or even "sympathy". In the same way that you can see someone who is clearly mentally ill in the street or on a bus muttering to themselves or cursing and feel sorry for them. You feel for their suffering, in other words, even though they themselves don't necessarily realise they are suffering.

I believe she is so utterly deluded, and convinced of her own awesomeness and invincibility, that she fails to realise that she is little more than a laughing stock now for vast swathes of the international population.

The only people who continue to put her on a pedestal seem to be those who are equally as deluded - the creationists, the rapture-believers, those who genuinely believe she is God's messenger on God's mission to take over America.

I cannot imagine that any person in their right mind, Republican or not, Christian or not, can look at the catalogue of incidents and statements that have been coming to light since her appointment as Veep candidate, in particular the "casting out of witches", and think that the country could ever be safe in her hands. Unless, of course, they are equally nuts and actually believe in witches, creationism, the Rapture, the End of Days, blah blah blah.

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i didn't know that hockey moms could get $25,000 worth of gifts in a 20 month period:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hcmodule

i wanna be a hockey mom too!

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Trying to pin down why I'm feeling slightly sorry for her - I think it's partly because it's becoming increasingly apparent that this person has been exploited by McCain and he should shoulder a lot of the flak coming her way, and partly because I can see her desperately trying to sound professional and confident (and when you're in that situation, you often think a show of humility would be wrong) but giving completely cringeworthy performances on camera and looking so stupid to so many people. The fact that she's so new, so fish out of water, yet facing such a barrage of laughter makes me wince. Even though I abhor much of what she believes in.

I think that's why. She may not deserve sympathy, but then I'm not consciously choosing to offer it.

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I can understand it....I just don't personally feel it. ;)

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my buddhist compassion will kick in as soon as she crawls back into the bad jesus freak channel family sitcom she came from.

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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ak-rus-remark/

brilliant! scary that she only got a passport LAST YEAR!!!

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Found this on the Huff site.

The movie is about 10 mins long but is worth watching. Damn scary. Total cultish behaviour.

And I thought Morning Star Mission was a bit of an odd choice of name too - isn't Lucifer supposed to be "star of the morning"?

Now I'm confused. :confused: And also a tad :eek:

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Haha! Come on guys, I only said 'slightly' ;)

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i'll admit that i feel a bit sorry for her, too. but the way in which i feel sorry for her is as though she'd only had 1 swimming lesson and decided to jump into the deep end of the pool. all that floundering and kicking and struggling to stay afloat... you have to have some pity for the hubris that inspired her to jump in over her head in the first place.

because you know she's floundering. and you know she knows she's floundering. and you know that somewhere deep inside, she knows you know she's floundering.

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anyone *watch* the katie couric interview?

GOOD EV'NIN BRIAN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDGEaQty_s
I KICKED THE BALL..... AND IT WENT TO THE BACK OF THE NET!

or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5aiDuemgJ4

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I would, but my brain would implode, so I'll get back to you on that after I'm done watching Putin fly over my home.

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And I bet she knows that we know that she knows she's floundering, too. :D


There are also a few interesting opinion pieces by conservative writers about Palin that I wanted to share.

First is one called "Palin Problem: She's out of her league". A couple quotes:

As we’ve seen and heard more from John McCain’s running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn’t know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.

and

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

Then there's this article that says:

Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

And this article that says:

Ms. Palin's experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall. She served two terms on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska, population 9,000. She served two terms as mayor. In November, 2006, she was elected governor of the state, a job she has held for a little more than 18 months. She has zero foreign policy experience, and no record on national security issues.

All this would matter less, but for this fact: The day that John McCain announced his selection of Sarah Palin was his birthday. His 72nd birthday. Seventy-two is not as old as it used to be, but Mr. McCain had a bout with melanoma seven years ago, and his experience in prison camp has uncertain implications for his future health.

If anything were to happen to a President McCain, the destiny of the free world would be placed in the hands of a woman who until the day before Friday was a small-town mayor.

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i like what the panel with Anderson Cooper had to say about Palin. right now she doesn't even look all that confident. it's a combination of McCain's camp not doing anything to actually make her look better out there.

i also remember what someone who went against her (i think it was Andre Halcro) said, she got this far just by being charming. her answers have always been vague, and she always had staff feed her lines when needed. which was fine in a smaller state of Alaska, but now she has to deal with the national media which isnt as forgiving.

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From that conservative writer:
Ouch!

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Andrew Sullivan writes a mean line or two - and by 'mean' I mean down right insightful.

Palin is getting worse.
"In other words: There's no Palin decline. There was nothing to decline from. There is no there there but ambition, fundamentalism and a bizarre personal life. And the pressure of her countless lies - especially about her personal life - must be beginning to tell. My own view is that she is such a massive joke she will kill the ticket; but if McCain asked her to withdraw, it would so destroy his own record of judgment, he would also lose. So we have two scenarios: either they struggle on, keep the Schmidt fireworks to distract from reality, and hope that racism and Christianism will somehow get them to the finishing line - or we start all over with Romney. But it's getting too late to switch GOP candidates.

I don't think the Palin problem is fixable. She is who she is: an unqualified fundamentalist liar with no knowledge of or experience in national domestic or foreign policy. And McCain had absolutely no idea who she was when he picked her."

Exactly.

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I'd be fascinated to know what Cheney is making of all this.

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Holy shitballs. I've just finished watching that Couric interview.

W. T. F. is that woman smoking.

Coz I want some of it.

Hay Zoos on a crutch. That's just terrifying.

Note to Democrats - don't even bother with the attack ads - just let the woman talk.

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I read the Daily Dish on a daily basis. My favorite blog. To think, back in the day, Sullivan was a Bush apologist. He has seen the light since :)

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Bet ya can't get stuff THAT good in NZ, eh? ;)

Notice Obama hasn't really said anything about Palin. The press has opened the closet and all the skeleton bones are falling out.

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Flow chart on Palin's views of the bail out:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...nbailout_2.gif

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a la south park:

1. bailout plan
2. health care
3. ???
4. profit

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'We fixed it, we killed it, and people ended up in federal prison.'

she likely won't do well in the debate, if her answers to couric were that bad.

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Interesting news. The highlight is mine...

Subpoenaed Palin aides don't appear at abuse probe

18 hours ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Seven of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's top aides defied subpoenas for their testimony Friday into possible abuse of power by the governor.

Palin's Chief of Staff Mike Nizich and six other aides failed to appear at a legislative hearing into whether Palin abused her power when she fired her public safety commissioner this summer.

Alaska Senate Judiciary Chairman Hollis French, D-Anchorage, waited 30 minutes Friday before reading a statement that the witnesses could be found in contempt when the full Legislature convenes in January.

Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg filed a lawsuit on behalf of the seven state workers Thursday challenging the subpoenas. He claims the committee has no jurisdiction to issue subpoenas in the investigation.

Colberg planned a news conference later Friday.

Palin fired Walt Monegan, the public safety commissioner, in July. He claims he was fired for refusing to fire a state trooper who had gone through a nasty divorce with Palin's sister.

He claims he was pressured by Palin, her husband and members of her staff to fire the trooper.

Palin denies the charge, and says he was dismissed over budget disagreements.

The Legislative Council, in a unanimous bipartisan vote, ordered an investigation into Monegan's firing, and Palin agreed to cooperate — until she was named John McCain's running mate.

Since then, Palin — through the McCain campaign — has accused lawmakers of manipulating the probe to be potentially damaging ahead of the November election.

Most witnesses under subpoena have refused to testify before the special investigator or the legislative body.

Five Republican state legislators have filed a lawsuit seeking to halt the Legislative Council's investigation.

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i'm gonna L O L if they lose in november, cuz then her career back in Alaska will be fcked.

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Interesting thoughts.

Sarah, we're not that different, you and I.

"I've been thinking a lot about this nomination and rewatching the videos of Palin's interview. Honestly, it's all made me tremendously sad. There are lot of us lefties who are guffawing right now and are happy to see Palin seemingly stumbling drunkenly from occasional interview to occasional interview. I may have been one of them. But I'm out of that group now."

I don't feel sad or sympathy for Palin - she made her choice.

But I definitely wonder why she did it - I mean what did she really think would happen. I learned early in my working life - that it's far better to be honest - if you don't know something, or don't know how to do something - say so.

Don't bullshit on your ability - because you'll always get caught out.

And this is high stakes - and Palin's getting caught out in front of everyone.

I think even the GOP and the most faithful are seeing that.