Dirty Forums

Dirty Forums (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/index.php)
-   underworld. (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015 (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18205)

holden 12-02-2015 07:23 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twicezero (Post 159462)
The Born Slippy ep was out waaaaay before trainspotting... right?

Yep. But as it was an EP, featuring non-album tracks, you certainly could say they were angling for a hit. A couple years later, that had it, oh how they had it!

i guess my point is, with all the NUXX versions, the extensive but pretty fixed set of lyrics (though the live versions do have an extra few lines), it seems they really loved this track, long before it became their signature tune. Unless there are reels of versions of many other tracks that we've not heard.

i find it interesting how tracks like "Always Loved a Film" and (You Do)"Scribble" and Biro the Leggy/"Beautiful Burnout take years to gel, and at what point do they decide it's done? Personally, i like the Silver Boots version of ALAF much more than the eventual official album release, and YDS is so much more emphatic than Scribble, but that's just me. As for NUXX, it seems like they solved the question of what parts to include fairly early, though samples and beats from the formative stage still crop up in live versions to this day.

negative1 12-02-2015 11:24 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
ok, there's 2 recordings of born slippy with NUXX lyrics:

refer to here:
http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...5&postcount=22

yes, t in the park was one of them, but it was in 1995.

(i'm trying to keep all the born slippy talk in that thread to make it easier to find)

later
-1

holden 12-03-2015 10:32 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 159376)

The biggest disappointment for me is Tin There which sounds more of a mess than ever. As soon as that "mesh" comes in, its just brick wall distortion all the way. The original version sounded warmer, with the softer drums slightly masking the distortion.


Just got around to listening to the B-sides disc, and you are so correct. "Tin There" sounds terrible now. Even though it's a heavy track with lots of loops piling up at once, all of them were still discernible on the Pearls Girl EP and Wipeout 2097. The "Remastering" of this track is textbook brickwalling.

Glad that the LP is now at a more consistent volume, but yeah, i agree with previous sentiments that there aren't that many revelation moments when you hear something for the first time that was hidden in the mix, as was the case with the dubno remaster. Disc 3 is the gem here, though.

ThingInABook 12-04-2015 07:26 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
what i'm missing from this re-release (i won't talk about the boxset yet, since I STILL DON'T HAVE MINE DAMN YOU HMV CANADA D:<) is the little odds and ends that the Dubno one had. For Dubno, we had a DAT tape with an alternative tracklist, proper demos and never heard before tracks. STITI only has 'excercises', with this i mean that they're proto versions of some tracks, a couple of tracks that could be demos and that's about it. The only thing that amazed me of the 3rd disc was the extended mix of Banstyle (the one that comes in the .NUXX ep), 4 crowns (too short, sad thing) and techno thang (which is good, but it sounds like someone was having fun with the desk). the other stuff is just leftovers.

now i see this thing as a rushed effort to add another boxset to the collection.

and i expect the Beaucoup Fish boxset to have proper demos (cape ffuno would be nice) and finished tracks. and the box has to be red. IT HAS TO BE RED.

jetpig 12-04-2015 02:55 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/1...-fallon-watch/

Pitchfork gave it an 8.8 and said it's the best reissue of 2015

negative1 12-04-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 159484)
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/1...-fallon-watch/

Pitchfork gave it an 8.8 and said it's the best reissue of 2015

not sure what that link is?

found it here: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/...n-the-infants/

later
-1

pandamagic 12-07-2015 10:49 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 159484)
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/1...-fallon-watch/ Pitchfork gave it an 8.8 and said it's the best reissue of 2015

pitchfork gives many reissues "best reissue" status in a year, not just one.

jetpig 12-07-2015 02:30 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Whoops. Wrong link... Well at least one of my favorite bands isnt a glorified backing band for miley cyrus right now... :/

qirex 12-09-2015 09:05 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Finally got my box set in the mail. It's a pleasure to finally be able to hold it in my hands even though I've been listening to it on Spotify since it's been released. The tracks sound incredible; definitely picking up on new little details here and there and after all these years I finally realized that this is my favorite UW album (& b-sides). Really hoping Beacoup Fish gets the same treatment.

titsmcgee852 03-07-2016 06:37 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Do the remastered tracks sound any better than the originals?

qirex 03-07-2016 07:04 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titsmcgee852 (Post 160042)
Do the remastered tracks sound any better than the originals?

Yes. Check it out on Spotify

negative1 05-12-2016 04:16 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Reduced price on boxset:
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/de...-super-deluxe/

later
-1

TheBang 05-12-2016 08:34 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
The price for the Dubno box has been dropping too, just FYI.

crank 05-13-2016 11:32 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
hope the same happens on the Barbara box. talk about overpriced shippings.

TheBang 05-13-2016 02:00 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
The Barbara Barbara box set was exclusive to Underworldlive.com and was limited to a 400 copy run which has sold out. If you didn't get one, your only option now is to buy it on the secondary market.

BrotherLovesDub 05-13-2016 03:59 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
UW really shit on American fans with their ridiculous 'tours' and $100 shipping fees. Oh well, I guess they can do what they want. Cry more, dumb Americans, right?

qirex 05-13-2016 05:41 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crank (Post 160990)
hope the same happens on the Barbara box. talk about overpriced shippings.

Yeah that was severely overpriced. $230... Its a shame their merch doesnt take North America into account at all

joethelion 05-14-2016 03:46 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qirex (Post 160994)
Yeah that was severely overpriced. $230... Its a shame their merch doesnt take North America into account at all


yea - that's why I never bought the deluxe edition of the new album...
I mean - I like ...REALLY Like Underworld... but over $100 for a (single disc) new album is absurd

negative1 05-17-2016 11:18 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crank (Post 160990)
hope the same happens on the Barbara box. talk about overpriced shippings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 160993)
UW really sh*t on American fans with their ridiculous 'tours' and $100 shipping fees. Oh well, I guess they can do what they want. Cry more, dumb Americans, right?


Quote:

Originally Posted by qirex (Post 160994)
Yeah that was severely overpriced. $230... Its a shame their merch doesnt take North America into account at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 160997)
yea - that's why I never bought the deluxe edition of the new album...
I mean - I like ...REALLY Like Underworld... but over $100 for a (single disc) new album is absurd

for me, if i like the music, i don't care what it costs,
$100, $1000, it doesn't matter.....

the fact that it was a limited edition and sold out, means other people thought the same, that the market will accept it.

i've spent way more, for a lot less...

if it's not worth it to you, there's no point in complaining because your pricepoint is going
to be different from everyone elses.

i remember similar complaints for the tokyo live 3cd, the artbook and cd releases,
and pretty much every other limited release they have had.

since i don't really care for this album, the limited boxset could have been
$10 or $1 and i wouldn't have bought it.

later
-1

holden 05-17-2016 03:05 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 161000)
for me, if i like the music, i don't care what it costs,
$100, $1000, it doesn't matter.....

the fact that it was a limited edition and sold out, means other people thought the same, that the market will accept it.

i've spent way more, for a lot less...

if it's not worth it to you, there's no point in complaining because your pricepoint is going
to be different from everyone elses.

-1

Well, there's the price one is willing to pay for the product, and then there's the cost of shipping. I think the complaint is with the latter. The music, box, art, limited edition bragging rights...yes, the value varies by individual. But complaining about getting gouged on shipping is a valid complaint, because it makes already expensive products prohibitively so.

crank 05-17-2016 04:13 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
I had a CASE of wine shipped from Italy that cost FAR less that a measly box set from Italy. it was shipped with care and was a heavy large box. there's no excuse or justification

negative1 05-17-2016 05:17 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 161001)
Well, there's the price one is willing to pay for the product, and then there's the cost of shipping. I think the complaint is with the latter. The music, box, art, limited edition bragging rights...yes, the value varies by individual. But complaining about getting gouged on shipping is a valid complaint, because it makes already expensive products prohibitively so.

to me, shipping price is also a part of getting it.

again, i wonder if anyone would still buy the boxset even if the
shipping was reasonable or low.

so, it really doesn't matter overall, because if you've made up
your mind that it is too expensive to begin with, then the shipping
cost wouldn't impact it.

to me, whatever it costs overall is it, period.

later
-1

holden 05-17-2016 05:26 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 161004)
to me, shipping price is also a part of getting it.

again, i wonder if anyone would still buy the boxset even if the
shipping was reasonable or low.

so, it really doesn't matter overall, because if you've made up
your mind that it is to expensive to begin with, then the shipping
cost wouldn't impact it.

to me, whatever it costs overall is it, period.

later
-1

Then you resign yourself to getting fleeced for no added value. Yeah, the boxes were expensive, but I justified them by funding different sources (eg Amazon) and not wasting my hard earned on shipping from the UK. I miss your point that it costs what it costs...that's only true if there's only one way to purchase something.

negative1 05-17-2016 11:27 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 161005)
Then you resign yourself to getting fleeced for no added value. Yeah, the boxes were expensive, but I justified them by funding different sources (eg Amazon) and not wasting my hard earned on shipping from the UK. I miss your point that it costs what it costs...that's only true if there's only one way to purchase something.

i'm only referring to the 'barbara, barbara' boxset, not the other ones.

originally, it was an exclusive to underworldlive, so there was only one way to get it.

sure, people could look for aftermarket copies now.
but if you want to guarantee getting one, that was the only way to get it.

with the other boxsets, sure people definitely shop around, which i also
do.

later
-1

crank 05-19-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
The shipping costs weren't $100.

Those costs weren't costs, they were marked up substantially. Whoever fulfilled those orders either made a mistake or wanted to screw nonUK residents. Simple as that. if i can ship a CASE of wine- 12 bottles - from a small winery in ITALY to the US for less than that, I think a simple boxset would be FAR less.

negative1 05-21-2016 01:45 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
i think we need to stop talking about shipping prices and such here.

and either move it here:
https://www.borndirty.org/forums/sho...=18227&page=27

or to its own thread.

i'd rather talk about how great the second toughest box set is,
as opposed to the griping about costs in general.

later
-1

stimpee 05-21-2016 03:52 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Agreed. Shipping costs arent part of the box(es).

jetpig 07-08-2020 11:38 PM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Time to bump an ancient thread. I just realized I don't actually have this anywhere, and I've just listened on Spotify all this time. Anywhere to get hi-rez digital FLAC?

saintrik 07-09-2020 12:12 AM

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 168058)
Time to bump an ancient thread. I just realized I don't actually have this anywhere, and I've just listened on Spotify all this time. Anywhere to get hi-rez digital FLAC?

Qobuz:
https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/se.../0060254747608

7Digital:
https://us.7digital.com/artist/under...6%2C17%2C9%2C2


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:20 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.