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Popeye34, i respect your convictions and concern about spirituality and music. Indeed, there exists some very uplifting and positive music out there, as well as some scary shit that could be designed to impress/exploit the listener (e.g. death metal, maybe hardcore industrial, etc). But i don't think you need to worry about Underworld as one of these bands. In fact, i'd venture that most trance music isn't composed to subliminally affect the listener, but instead to make 'em dance. If this becomes a religious experience for the listener, well that's up to them.

There've been times i've been more or less convicted about being careful in my surroundings and not being swayed...wer'e bombarded with suggestions everywhere: adverts, tv, movies. That's the world we live in: everyone wants your money and support. That could apply to ANY music act...they want your money and support, too. But they also want you to enjoy their tunes, and i think Underworld has made it clear that they respect their fans and want to share good vibes.

Hope this helps somewhat. Anyway, welcome to the boards...you'll soon see that most threads here go in weird random directions, It's the dirty charm!

Holden

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Yup, BoC have nothing to do with Satanism, they aren't members of a cult, they don't live in an occult community and they don't make their music inside a bunker.
Yes, they did use occult symbolism in their previous albums (not the Campfire Headphase), but that was just part of the production.

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Not wanting to criticize you, but i think that a fair few people here also have 'enough musical experience' to be able to tell you that 99% of all (trance) music isn't intended to warp minds...

Those of religious faith, may or may not be 'lead' by what they hear in music, but those without faith, just hear music...well i do anyway, because i don't know of Satan and cannot be lead into believing it by some melodic beats

- i know this is kind of debate is for other places on this board, but i think some people are a little too warped by their own religion and their religious beliefs, and should look at their own religions before accusing 'artists' of alteria motives...

I cannot fathom out what reason Underworld would want to bend our minds and turn us on to?

And i know you have been harping on about 'trance' music, but i'd say only 10% maximum of Underworld's music is trance, and Boards of Canada - are not what people who know about music would cite as Trance either...

but hey, you are free to voice your opinions on the matter, and if you think that some music is designed to persued you to do something, then thats how you interpret it, but i think that you would find it hard to prove that any of Underworld's music has subliminal EVIL messages within it...

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The biggest underworld addict, sorry, collector isn't influenced by them in anyway.... right.
;)

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We went on to other topics because yours was boring.

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ok - well...

first of all - I'm kinda insulted that Underworld and Boards of Canada were lumped into "trance music" as:

1) BoC and UW sound nothing alike
2) BoC and UW sound nothing like trance... what so ever


and about spirituality...
I'm going to try and over-simplify this - as I wrote a (pretty) long paper about this when I took a course on the "Psychological Study of Spirituality" a bit over a year ago ->

throughout your life, it is possible to have 'peak experiences'. These are feelings of euphoria, a 'oneness' with the universe, transcendance, some even feel like they 'feel' or become 'part' of God. These experiences are simply beyond words... so when we relate them to others, we sort of use religion / spirituality as somewhat of a 'template' to explain what goes on.

Amongst the triggers for these peak experiences, are music and artistic expression...

and when you think about it - what happens at clubs? Depending on who you are, what you wear / look like can be an artistic expression... so can dancing... the music itself can be a trigger... and you're 'congregating' with a large group of people to share in this expression... basically a 'fast track' to these peak experiences


....and none of it had to do with the devil

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Why? ;)

Yep.

Maybe I am just a jaded old cynic, but anyone who starts off posting stuff like this from day one has to be either a) trolling for the fun of it or b) seriously nuts.

If it falls into category a) then, yes, it is funny, albeit that the joke is then on the people who take this seriously and respond earnestly, which is what all trolls delight in.

Responding earnestly to a category b) on the other hand - someone who genuinely believes there is truth in dance music being the work of the devil - is encouraging delusion and is not so funny.

It is clear Mr Popeye hasn't taken on board any of the more serious responses to his initial post otherwise he would be coming back with measured rebuttal, not just more of the same.

Just my two penn'orth

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6 pages of taking this minstrel muffin seriously?
the devil really has invaded...

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Are you serious?

You are?

OK.

I live in the UK, which, in certain quarters, has the proud title of "the Most Secular Country in the World". The Vengeful Sky-God (and his preposterous arch-enemy) don't capture the imagination in the same way they do in various land-locked areas of the USA.

Underworld come from the UK too. Any source of light or darkness or any of the infinite shades in between that you sense are from them, you, me and us. The Human Race.

No two-thousand-year-old cartoon characters required.

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he is, of course, an agent of beelzebub in some people's eyes...

(just to keep this 'on message' for good ole popeye ;))