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kagenaki koe 09-18-2008 12:38 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
so part of her new interview with Hannity is up:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_127197.html

following McCains idiotic "by fundamentals of our economy, i meant the workers" she repeats this same re-interpretation of the term then follows it up with "It is a mess though" which based on their reinterpretation it means that the workers are a mess:rolleyes:

BeautifulBurnout 09-18-2008 08:01 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Well, the GOP aren't too happy about the Troopergate investigation going ahead at all, despite Mrs Palin's assertions that she welcomed a chance to clear her name. Now they are trying to smear the investigation as being biased against her because Sen French, the chair, is a Democrat.

Interesting time line of articles on the whole shenanigans in the Alaskan Daily News.

This is going to run and run. Whether it is sufficient to deter the Sarah-worshipers is another matter, however. I am tired of the shrill "why are you being so mean to her? You are just liberal baby-killers" whining of the Right every time another embarrassing fact about Mrs P emerges.

And The Huff's take on it here
Quote:

Friday the Attorney General's office promised state witnesses would comply with subpoenas the Legislature issued last week. Tuesday the Governor's Attorney General flip flopped, and announced that state witnesses wouldn't comply because, well, and I'm paraphrasing here - - he's changed his mind. And in what has to be an idea hatched after a 4th Martini at Chilkoot Charlies, Governor Palin's attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss the ethics claim she filed against herself two weeks ago. Yup. She really filed a complaint against herself. Tuesday she said she's discovered, after a thorough investigation of herself, that she's done nothing wrong. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Jon Stewart and Tina Fey?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D

kagenaki koe 09-18-2008 02:48 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
about 17 seconds in she proclaims Palin/McCain administration:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysEy5O1dn4

i just found it funny considering her history of throwing people who have helped her get elected under the bus

cacophony 09-18-2008 08:44 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
while i'm in the hospital i have daily access to the lactation consultants to get information and guidance on proper breastfeeding. today my consultant was a middle-aged native georgian. i've been avoiding the news partially intentionally, partially unintentionally for the past couple of weeks because (go figure) i've had other things on my mind. unfortunately my husband turned the TV on just as the consultant arrived and left the room to give us some privacy. the TV was on CNN when it came on and it was just sort of on in the background during my consultation. of course CNN was talking about all of the stock market stuff and at one point the consultant looked up at the TV and snorted in disgust. she said, "the things these CEOs do, it should be illegal. but they have all of the money so nothing ever changes."

then she said this:

"that's why i'm so interested to see what sarah palin has to say about this because it's just time we get a politician with no connections. she doesn't have any ties, she can get things cleaned up."

my polite inclination was to say nothing because i tend to dislike discussing politics with complete strangers. but i couldn't just be silent about it. before i spoke up these are the thoughts that flitted through my head and i considered saying each one:

1) you're an idiot, get out of my room.

2) sarah palin is not the presidential candidate. if you're looking for someone without "connections" you should think about the fact that the PRESIDENTIAL candidate is john mccain. with two decades of "connections."

3) what exactly do you think a vice presidential's campaign promises on a subject like this are worth?

4) no "connections" is more valuable than ANY experience that would qualify someone for the job? you might as well say, "that's why i'm so interested to see what my dry cleaner has to say about this because he has no connections."

ultimately what i ended up doing was rolling my eyes laboriously and saying flatly, "i'm not a fan of sarah palin. don't kid yourself, there isn't a politician on god's green earth who doesn't have connections. they have even found special interests connected to sarah palin."

she just sort of frowned thoughtfully and said, "huh. maybe that's true."

then i forcefully changed the subject away from politics and didn't give her a chance to bring it up again.

so. yeah. fucking stupidity running rampant.

Deckard 09-19-2008 03:47 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacophony
1) you're an idiot, get out of my room.

Made me spit out my breakfast!

I was thinking last night about how shockingly fast has been the rise of Sarah Palin - I'm struggling to think of anyone else who has gone from nobody to household name (known even to people here outside the US) in such a short space of time - and not just a household name, but elevated to a position of such significance. I mean, most of us knew of Obama a while before he announced he was standing as a Presidential candidate. But Palin's emergence has been more sudden than anything I've seen.

Last night on Question Time (UK's most popular political discussion show), there was the usual 'balanced' selection on the panel - male Conservative politician, female Labour politician, female Liberal politician, the male CEO of one of the biggest retail chains, and a male Jon Stewart-style satirist. Towards the end, the question of Sarah Palin came up. And you know what? ALL the panel were united in agreement at how scary this woman's views are. Everyone from the audience who spoke was the same. No disagreement, which is very unusual. Harriet Harman, the Labour minister, spoke of her admiration for what Palin had achieved as a woman, and everyone accepted that she has certainly re-energized McCain's campaign (though not necessarily for the right reasons!) But beyond that, there was unanimous agreement - this scary woman must not get in!!

A couple of other vehemently conservative Brits I speak to on the internet have also wasted no time in expressing their horror at the prospect that this person could become the 2nd - or god forbid, 1st - most powerful person on the planet. These are staunch conservative party supporters, horrified at how America could end up not only with someone like that so close to the reins of power, but with such support.

The sense I'm getting is that the reasons for this collective horror (at least to us in this country) seem to be firmly rooted in the following: her abortion stance, her support of creationism, the sheer level of ignorance she displays, and the suspicion - from a couple of things she's said - that she may turn out to be an unhinged warmonger. (Not heard too many citing her lack of experience, funnily enough - seems those other concerns trump that)

The more I think about this, the more I see John McCain as the utterly reprehensible one in all this. Sure, John strikes me as a thoroughly decent jovial guy in interviews, I actually kind of warm to him. But there's no getting away from how stupidly irresponsible this choice of running mate was, and I can only speculate what on earth was going on in his head.

King of Snake 09-19-2008 07:22 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
what's going on in his mind is "i've got to win and it doesn't matter how."

Sean 09-19-2008 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 102207)
The more I think about this, the more I see John McCain as the utterly reprehensible one in all this. Sure, John strikes me as a thoroughly decent jovial guy in interviews, I actually kind of warm to him. But there's no getting away from how stupidly irresponsible this choice of running mate was, and I can only speculate what on earth was going on in his head.

It's funny you should say this right now. Just last night I was watching the news and heard some more clips from Palin, and I had a moment where I felt truly scared at the thought of her falling into the Presidency. I mean like TRULY scared, where I was feeling pissed off at McCain for being such a selfish, irresponsible ass that he would make his VP pick based entirely on who he thought might help him win an election, but not at all on if that person would be qualified to run the country if necessary. I mean seriously....how could he knowingly put us in this position, and how can these idiots keep eating it up?

bas_I_am 09-19-2008 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 101129)
hell, william harrison served as president when he was 68 years old, in 1841. do you realize what the life expectancy difference is between 1841 and 2008?

william henry harrison caught a cold during is inaugural speech and died two months into office.

d'oh!!!

cacophony 09-19-2008 10:34 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
uh oh.

gambit 09-19-2008 11:00 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...9/1424780.aspx

Quote:

As of yesterday, Sarah Palin had delivered 14 campaign speeches since her well-received address more than two weeks ago at the Republican National Convention. And each time, she's packed in thousands of excited Republicans eager to see this new star of the GOP.

But those waiting for hours to listen to her could hear the same thing -- or something close to it -- simply by pressing play on a TiVO recording of her acceptance speech. Or clicking on to a YouTube clip of that Sept. 3 address
I can't wait for the VP debate. Biden is going to skewer her just by being able to think up something new.

Sean 09-19-2008 12:52 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gambit (Post 102218)
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...9/1424780.aspx

I can't wait for the VP debate. Biden is going to skewer her just by being able to think up something new.

The debates will indeed be interesting.

There's so much coming out about her every day that they can't possibly sustain the excitement surrounding her as the VP pick. Just today, this was in the L.A. Times. It's an article about the fact that despite the infamous "bridge to nowhere" being stopped, Palin went ahead anyway with having a $26 million, dead-end road built that runs from the airport to the place where the bridge was going to be. :confused:

BeautifulBurnout 09-19-2008 12:57 PM

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... and today the "First Dude" refused to appear under subpoena for the Troopergate enquiry. How bad must the truth on this be that the GOP are prepared to go to such lengths to prevent the hearing taking place?

And here is the legal blah blah blah as to why he isn't appearing (unless it is just geeks like me that love reading this stuff ;) )

kagenaki koe 09-19-2008 01:09 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
i think she is the only candidate this season that keeps repeating "January 20" as part of her stump speech. i liken it to that America's Next Top Model contestant that kept proclaiming "i AM america's next top model". i hope she gets the same result.

gambit 09-19-2008 01:11 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Over the weekend, her poll numbers went down, and I attribute that to all these news stories and her first interview which must've sobered people up. Also, Obama's poll numbers have risen, and now everything's pretty much back to the way it was before the conventions.

Personally, I don't get why they're making such a big deal out of this Troopergate investigation. First, Palin said she would cooperate with it, and that probably would've been the most we heard about it. By refusing to comply with it, for any reason, just makes it a much bigger story. It just makes people think that they're hiding something. Politically, this was a dumb move.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 09-19-2008 01:17 PM

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[QUOTE=BeautifulBurnout;102225(unless it is just geeks like me that love reading this stuff ;) )[/QUOTE]

I DO! I DO!

Considering what's been considered the new cool, or hot, (or what do kids call it now-a-daze?)
I'm quite alright being a geek.

rayray 09-19-2008 01:37 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
I was reading a headline today when I realized that if you lose the "L"
it's P A L I N
as in PAIN - lot's of it for us

Deckard 09-19-2008 02:43 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

The Republicans today effectively won their battle to delay the findings of the Troopergate investigation into Sarah Palin until after the White House election on November 4.
I hope there's a shitstorm about this. :mad:

Quote:

A lawyer for Todd Palin, Thomas van Flein, told the investigators the subpoena was "unduly burdensome" because he would be out on the campaign trail with his wife until election day. "His scheduling obligations over the next two months will make it virtually impossible for him to prepare for and present the testimony called for in the subpoena at the specified location during that time period," Flein said in a letter.
Yeah right, mate. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Although some polls earlier this week suggested the Palin phenomenon was beginning to fade as a result of Troopergate and other revelations about her record as governor of Alaska, one of the most respected polling organisations in the US, the Pew Research Centre, published a survey today suggesting that the Republican party brand has regained some of its lustre for the first time in three years and that this can be attributed mainly to Palin.

This is a stunning turnaround given the extremely low favourability ratings of President George Bush, the unpopularity of the Iraq war and an economy in free fall.

The Pew Research Centre found that independent voters, who will decide the election, have an equally favourable view of both parties, 50% to 49%, with the Republicans having the 1% edge. The Democrats had held an 18% lead in August, and similar leads over the last year.
Because of Sarah Palin? That is so f----d up.

nosajmunson 09-19-2008 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gambit (Post 102218)
I can't wait for the VP debate. Biden is going to skewer her just by being able to think up something new.

I really wish people would leave poor, poor Sarah Palin alone. It's hard to run for the 2nd highest office in the land.

All those things you have to memorize. It's not her fault that she doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is? I mean, she is a dyed in the wool, wolf shooting member of the Republicants, but that doesn't mean she should know everything about them.
She loves Bush, the president and not the other kind of "Bush". That would make her a Lesbian, and lord knows that the Republicants aren’t gay.

People make fun of her about her saying that she can see Russia from her yard. When she said it, she was just kidding around. She can't really see it because there is a giant bridge that leads to nowhere blocking the view of Mother Russia.

People need to leave her daughter alone and out of all of this. Just because Sarah preaches NO sexual education other than abstinence doesn't mean her daughter has buy into that. I mean, as a Republicant, you only have to tell others what is morally right and make laws to enforce it. You don't actually have to follow your own guidelines. Besides, this is her daughter’s second child. Sarah P is just taking care of her daughter’s first one until her daughter is ready to be a good parent like Sarah.

People are saying that she just repeats the exact same thing over and over again.
Well, why not. It’s the only way Republicants can get their message across to people.
Everybody knows that if you say it enough, eventually people will believe it.

And all this talk about how Joe Bidden is going to rip her apart come the debates.
That’s just plain silly. Sure, Joe Bidden may be a great debater. And sure, he may know a lot more facts about the US government than her. He even may be better suited for the job of vice president. All of that really means nothing. Sarah Palin is going to stand there and say the same stuff over and over, no matter how many times she contradicts herself. And as long as she is wearing those really cool hip glasses she got from her grandmother’s dresser, everyone will listen and believe her.

Besides, if her and her grandfather win the election, Ol Gramps McCain won't last all 4 years. That means Sarah would run the country. And that's AWESOME!
Seriously, what beauty queen can you think of that you wouldn't want to be the President of the United States. Sure Hillary Clinton may be smart and qualified but she is just not as pretty as that gosh darn cute Sarah Palin.

BeautifulBurnout 09-19-2008 04:11 PM

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Nosajmunson: class post! :D:D

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 09-19-2008 04:19 PM

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[QUOTE=nosajmunson;102237][FONT=Century Gothic]

[FONT=Century Gothic] I mean, as a Republicant, you only have to tell others what is morally right and make laws to enforce it.


"...make the rules,
then break them all
'cause you are the best..."

Man, I've been waiting to use that one for a LONG time.

cacophony 09-22-2008 09:43 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
sarah palin charged women for their own rape exams when she was mayor.

Sean 09-22-2008 11:17 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 102317)

Oh please please PLEASE let this be reported to death in the mainstream press.

BeautifulBurnout 09-22-2008 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 102325)
Oh please please PLEASE let this be reported to death in the mainstream press.

I thought this had hit the mainstream a little while ago - I remember reading about it about 10 days ago. It may well be hidden in this thread somewhere.

Right enough, this is one of the most heinous policies to be practised by a police department. God knows, women have enough trouble reporting a rape in the first place, without having to worry about where they are going to get the money to fund their forensics kit if they aren't insured. :eek:

nosajmunson 09-22-2008 01:05 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 102317)


That's just sad and sick. How could Palin have no idea that this was going on? Her frickin' chief of police was quoted in their local paper about all of this? I guess Sarah can't read.

kagenaki koe 09-22-2008 01:22 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
there's lots of stuff Palin did wrong in alaska. there's also Dairygate:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...sarah-pali.php

it's lower on the list of her screwups.

Deckard 09-22-2008 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nosajmunson (Post 102335)
That's just sad and sick. How could Palin have no idea that this was going on? Her frickin' chief of police was quoted in their local paper about all of this? I guess Sarah can't read.

Maybe it was in Russian.

BeautifulBurnout 09-23-2008 03:44 PM

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Meanwhile, she is being more than a tad camera shy today.

Why is it that the Republicans are so worried about her being caught on film? Are they concerned that her flimsiness when faced with hard questions will blow up in their faces? It strikes me as utterly bizarre 6 weeks prior to the elections to be keeping her in purdah.

cacophony 09-23-2008 04:18 PM

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they're not done grooming her. they found her out in the wilds of alaska with virtually no real political experience. for the world of politics it's like finding a feral child who was raised by wild dogs and never developed the capacity for language. they're taking sarah palin in and teaching her how humans live and teaching her to turn woofs and grunts into intelligible speech.

they can't let her out into the world of politics until she learns how to behave properly.







i thought this analogy would be a lot less sexist than if i'd gone with an eliza doolittle reference. :p

BeautifulBurnout 09-23-2008 04:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 102387)
they're not done grooming her. they found her out in the wilds of alaska with virtually no real political experience. for the world of politics it's like finding a feral child who was raised by wild dogs and never developed the capacity for language. they're taking sarah palin in and teaching her how humans live and teaching her to turn woofs and grunts into intelligible speech.

they can't let her out into the world of politics until she learns how to behave properly.







i thought this analogy would be a lot less sexist than if i'd gone with an eliza doolittle reference. :p

LMFAO! :D

*hums "All I want is a room somewhere..." *

Strangelet 09-23-2008 06:34 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 102387)
they're not done grooming her. they found her out in the wilds of alaska with virtually no real political experience. for the world of politics it's like finding a feral child who was raised by wild dogs and never developed the capacity for language. they're taking sarah palin in and teaching her how humans live and teaching her to turn woofs and grunts into intelligible speech.


that's some funny shit. :D

kagenaki koe 09-23-2008 08:00 PM

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now that's how a maverick works!:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13736.html

i've only seen a few parts of I Want To Work For Diddy, but Palin reminds me of the chubby dude that came in with a tshirt that said CAN DO, but hardly ever does anything when the competition started.

nosajmunson 09-23-2008 10:51 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kagenaki koe (Post 102392)
now that's how a maverick works!:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13736.html

i've only seen a few parts of I Want To Work For Diddy, but Palin reminds me of the chubby dude that came in with a tshirt that said CAN DO, but hardly ever does anything when the competition started.

Nice.

I don't see what the big deal is though. I'm salaried at 45 hours a week. But I only actually work about 3. Then I bill them for the extra time I spend on here.
Wow....wait a second.....maybe I can find a job in McCain's campaign.
Or at least working for Diddy.

IsiliRunite 09-24-2008 09:15 AM

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Get me some cheesecake.

rayray 09-24-2008 01:28 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
and now mccain wants to hide from public and delay the debate this friday....
must be some financial skeletons in the maverick closet

nosajmunson 09-24-2008 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IsiliRunite (Post 102407)
Get me some cheesecake.

How about some Vietnamese Breast milk? Wait, that's Chappelle Show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayray (Post 102413)
and now mccain wants to hide from public and delay the debate this friday....
must be some financial skeletons in the maverick closet

Yeah, there gonna find Goose, Slider and Iceman in his closet, naked.

If the McCrustyballs can't remember how many Houses he has, he needs to put off the debates. This is a good excuse. Financial disaster. Hopefully he can still make the payments on all NINE of his houses. Hope that comes up in the deabtes "How much a month do you pay in Mortages?"

"Ms. Palin, how much do you charge the people of Alaska a month to live in the Mansion?"

kagenaki koe 09-24-2008 07:54 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
her Katie Kouric interview is up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Yx-RhHb4g

i love Katie's "you're bullshit won't fly with me, bitch" look which probably explains why you don't hear Sarah say "Katie, you know Katie...in what way Katie, it's like this Katie....."

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 09-24-2008 09:27 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
I wouldn't let them.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 09-24-2008 10:06 PM

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And, just in case, Twilight is fiction too.


Someone please tell me I'm not being offensive.

BeautifulBurnout 09-25-2008 09:53 AM

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She's so inept she is making me cringe as I watch this. She is clearly waaaay out of her depth on this and continues to repeat the party line without reflecting on the actual question that is being put to her.

Worrying.

Deckard 09-25-2008 10:38 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
I know what you mean. Despite obvious differences, I'm actually feeling a bit sorry for her, and just contempt for the way McCain is using her.

Couric's "I'm just going to ask you one more time..." made her look ridiculous. I think even Republican supporters must now be growing a bit doubtful about her selection.


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