Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 

listed for dubnobasswithmyheadman:
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http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...3&postcount=49


these boxset releases were never meant to be comprehensive,
so you'll have to put your own list together.


later
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Thanks -1!

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Out of curiosity - any way to support the running of the site otherwise? :)

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I don't think I've ever heard this one. Doesn't seem to be on YouTube. How did I miss this?

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Thanks!

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Because, if you want it, you'll have to fight mark3 for it:

http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Co...elease/5080225

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the absence of the Juanita promo short cut is really no loss at all. There's a really sloppy edit at 0:29 which throws off the time signature momentarily, so the whole thing feel like a rushed hack job, even for just a limited promo release.

everything else you listed above, though, I would have loved to hear remastered.

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I don't understand what everyone's obsession is over what are, essentially, radio edits.

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When it comes to Rush and UW, I want at least a 320 mp3 version of everything (everything)! I never professed to be particularly sane about it, though.

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The comment on discogs suggests she said is an edit of this promo. Anyone agree?

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That comment is wrong (as pointed out by a couple people responding to the comment)

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The iTunes links have been added, if anyone was waiting for them. I added all the purchasing links to the first post also.

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Banstyle // Sappy's Curry Remastered... need I say more?

Just unwrapped this... glad to be able to d/l the lossless WAV files. Much easier to encoded to ALAC than ripping each CD.

The remastered tracks sound amazing. I find it too hard to be super excited about their new LP since I'm into this right now... but at least once the STITI buzz subsides I'll be ready. :D

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Just downloaded the digital package which comes with the deluxe package.
Aparently there is a new track on CD2 called 09-CD2_1644_Underworld-Deeply Pizza.WAV

Sounds a lot like the deep pan mix ;-)))

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Didn't hear this version of Stagger before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11q1fAbSIqE

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That version of Stagger is from when Rick and Karl were releasing tracks to the underworldlive.com website. I think there were 12 tracks. I can't remember the year though. There were some great versions of Air Towel, Oich Oich and Skyscraper, among others.

Jason

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Stagger is from the old Underworldlive.com releases. Its name is actually "file 010601" or "010601" or Stagger Jam.

See this thread for discussion http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...?t=7338&page=1

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If memory serves most of this stuff is circa '99-2000, so I reaaaaally hope some of it ends up on the Beaucoup Fish re-issue (if such a thing ever happens.) Much of the underworldlive.com stuff from that era trumps a lot of what ended up on disc 3 of the Second Toughest super deluxe set. It would be a shame to have it languish away forever on sad old 160 kbs mp3s. The "air towel" and "stagger" jams are especially good.

It actually isn't *that* much of a stretch of the imagination to assume they're hanging on to the old underworldlive.com stuff for a hypothetical Beaucoup Fish box set, since in terms of bonus (non-remix) tracks from that album, there isn't much apart from "please help me" to pad out a reissue. Since I'm fantasizing anyway, it would be great to have a disc of "best remixes by other people" (ie - micronauts' "bruce lee," salt city orchestra's "cups," jumbo remixes that don't fade out early, etc) and then a disc of highlights from the underworldlive tracks.

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maybe it's just me.

but the remastering to me, is very subtle.

so much so, that i can't really tell what if anything was done to them.


i've listened through headphones, in a car, and on home speakers to all the tracks.


in fact the demos, sound a little noisy, with hiss, and other background sounds.

the album and b-sides sounds pretty much identical to the old cd, i havent done a
critical comparison, or with vinyl. but at some point i might check.

later
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The remastering is very subtle on Disc 2. Born Slippy certainly sounds different, compression is different exposing distinct layers in the track. In particular, there is a bass drone starting at 2:37 and every 4 beats that is more prominent.

The biggest disappointment for me is Tin There which sounds more of a mess than ever. As soon as that "mesh" comes in, its just brick wall distortion all the way. The original version sounded warmer, with the softer drums slightly masking the distortion.

Deep Arch and Deep Pan are crisper, but I don't see the real benefit in remastering these tracks.

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What I'd like to see, is a box set of all of the tracks they gave out on UW Live (maybe not ALL of the live shows (like 'Burger Van Man Gig') but at least the 'In Studio Jams' and one-off tracks

...and that'd nicely go along with Karl's book of diary entries

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just to break out all the 'beacoup fish' talk to another thread.

i've started my listing here:
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http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...83&postcount=1

feel free to discuss there.

later
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Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 

Regarding potential extras for Beaucoup Fish box, yeah it would be nice to have high quality versions of UWlive stuff of that era, but I'm more interested in hearing stuff from the archives that we don't even know about yet. I mean, how many of us knew about Bug or Bing Here or Bloody 1 until last week? I'm sure we'll get the typical LP, singles, remixes, but I personally can't wait for new old tracks. Though if they want to remaster Blue Mountain jam, that'd be fine, too!

Regarding STITI remaster, very pleased with the bonus discs and more listenable LP. The singles and EP sound quality never bothered me like the murky, Quiet LP. Really digging the outtakes, they are getting heavy rotation, up there with the live dubno improvs

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It is very subtle that I can hear. I think my only gripe on the original release was that the tracks were mastered at too low a volume. For example with Banstyle - from the original Lossless track I had to boost the volume setting up 25% to get it at the same level as the remastered version. Other than that, STITI was flawless. Still my favourite UW LP.

btw - digging the Born Slippy evolution disc... I had thought I heard every version possible! :D

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love STiTI. that said, I can barely notice any differences in the remastered. Here and there maybe.

The NUXX bonus disc is a total waste on me tho as that version is easily my least favorite version of the track. Its the most unrealized version. Listened thru each one once but I suspect that disc will get no more play on this end.

The unreleased track, however, will! Didn't expect to love them as much as I am after my first listen. Its hard to jump into that STiTI mindset after so many years but when it finally clicked, it all felt so right.

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Is the bonus disc of b-sides remastered? Thanks!

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yes, all the discs are.

but its very hard to tell.

later
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Regarding the NUXX disc, a few observations:

1) the live jams... I realize the song was still in progress in 1994, and that the live versions are heavily improvised, but they sound kind of random to me, by UW standards. That is, overloaded with drum loops (including plenty of 808 hihats), not really coherent. Also,maybe its a product of where they were in terms of live performances at the time, but I felt like a lot of the sample and beats dropped in at random, not in conjunction with Karl's vocals, which even back then we're pretty much fixed for NUXX. I need to revisit the older live boots as I may be forgetting how freeform they really were!

2) was NUXX always planned as the BIG single? As its a remix on the original Born Slippy disc and we all know the Trainspotting Legend, I'd think not. So then, anyone else surprised by how many versions of NUXX they dug up for the box set? Then again, with the reel and take names sprinkled about the b sides and dubno rarities, maybe there are many more versions of other tracks, probably a lot of random or unfinished jams....but imagine if your favorite tracks had wildly different versions! Bet it's the case. Yeah, tracks develop a lot over the recording process, or in the case of tracks like ALAF, over the years. But decisions are made and elements are dropped. I'd be interested in hearing songs in a less recognisable state rather than remixes or subtle versions of the final cut.
Just some thoughts!

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Anyone else out there in the states and still waiting for their box to show up from UW HQ? They had the dubnobass box set to me the day before it was released, but I'm still waiting for the stiti one here.

Next time, I'm just going with amazon.....

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Is Nuxx is a remix of Born Slippy?

Or is the "Born Slippy" title a creative decision for the Born Slippy release - (Born Slippy, Born Slippy .NUXX, Born Slippy .TEL EMATIC).

I can hear more similarity between Nuxx and "Telematic", but I don't hear much similarity with Born Slippy "Original" even now we have heard some of the early versions.

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First I have to say, I am LOVING the disc of unreleased tracks. While I found the ones on 'Dubno' a bit more surprising... I didn't necessarily listen to them that often. Also, is it just me ... or do portions of "D+B Thing" sound a bit like "You Do Scribble"?

and the NUXX disc... I can kinda see what they wanted to do, but really... but it just put a big spotlight on the fact that they have many shows archived (and ... it kinda begs the question: why are they not selling the full shows digitally online?)

It also got me to go back and listen to my old bootlegs from the '95/'96 era... I do find it a bit surprising that the version of "Born Slippy" where it's the original 'instrumental' with the NUXX lyrics over it wasn't included on this boxset, as it was performed that way (at least once)

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Thank you! :)

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Which concert was the original version of Born Slippy with the NUXX lyrics performed on as I would love to hear that as I don't remember ever hearing it!

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refer to here:
http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...9&postcount=20

later
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Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 

logistics and copyright issues probably.

agreed, but we have a good recording of it.

later
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Thanks -1 I have the Glasgow gig- I still have the tape I recorded it off Radio1 on all those years ago! Also have the extra track at the end thanks to the tracker! Listening to the nuxx disc and the Glasgow gig I think nuxx has always been a separate track from 'original born slippy' and that they used some elements of nuxx with samples that became born slippy in the Jam version at the end of the Glasgow gig.
For me born slippy sounds like STITI era and nuxx like dubno era with a slight evolution/polish into what we know as born slippy .nuxx. I am still to hear a version of 'original born slippy' with nuxx lyrics. Are there any earlier recordings (bootlegs) around with (or without) nuxx on before Glasgow 94 (not including new STITI nuxx versions)?
I think it's a bit like dirty with guitar, epic, etc versions but they are less similar and I agree with Holden's earlier post that they just put them together on the born slippy release because 'original bs' was the new release but nuxx was going to sell well because of trainspotting.
I think I'm going to refer to nuxx simply as nuxx rather than born slippy .nuxx now and the same with tel ematic!��

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That's actually not the show I was talking about, and personally - I wouldn't really count that version of the track to be the 'original instrumental' but with NUXX lyrics

I'm at work now... but when I get home - I'll double check what bootleg I was listening to. I'm almost certain I was listening to a recording from:

1995-08-06 T in the Park, Hamilton, UK

Re: Second Toughest In The Infants Deluxe/Super Deluxe 2015
 

The Born Slippy ep was out waaaaay before trainspotting... right?

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Good point! I stand corrected! It was a long time ago... I was doing my GCSEs back then and was obviously revising too hard!
Is the T in the park bootleg that joethelion mentions available anywhere? I can't see it on the tracker? I would love to hear that!...although as twicezero points out that gig was after the born slippy ep was released so couldn't really be a prototype version! It's all getting confusing now!