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jose m 01-17-2006 02:41 AM

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rick wakeman is tall so is rick smith,fuck they're both called rick as well.

stimpee 01-17-2006 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout
Tell you what, Mr Moderator: why not provide us with a template of how you would like to see posts in threads. That way I am sure we will all bow down to your views and not post anything that falls below your meticulous standards in future. :)

can you please quit it with the Mr.Moderator stuff? I'm not telling people what to write. I was asking for more information. I got that information and gave thanks. Take your sardonic comments elsewhere.

On a lighter note, I suggest you watch Spinal Tap again, as the parody stretches across many genres.

justy 01-17-2006 08:49 AM

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Stimpee wrote:

ive yet to hear a harpsichord solo [in Underworld's music]
I know it's not Underworld, but Orbital uses one to great effect in the second and third "movements" of "The Box"!

holden 01-17-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stimpee
So apart from the fact that UW have released some long songs, some of which have been in parts, its a bit of a stretch of the imagination. You're welcome to listen to your old prog rock albums (whether youre 15 or 43) but I dont think Underworld's name should be stained by prog rock comparisons.

No, it's a stretch of your imagination. I stand by my assertions. i knew you'd disagree;)

patrick 01-17-2006 12:46 PM

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i am pretty sure that karl himself has mentioned about how they feel highly influenced by bands such as floyd and can and definatly brian eno. i´m sure someone will have a good memory and know for sure, but it is something that i think they have said.

and this is rediculous. like a facist thread if i have seen one ever!

BeautifulBurnout 01-17-2006 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick
and this is rediculous. like a facist thread if i have seen one ever!

I couldn't possibly comment! ;)


Hehe. Seriously though, we shouldn't blur the lines between Stimpee the Moderator and Stimpee the Person. (Even if I deliberately chose to earlier :p). He is expressing a personal view here, however unreasonable that might be! I don't think that means he is stamping his Moderator Jackboot on anyone though. ;)

//\/\/ 01-17-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout
Spinal Tap was rock, not prog rock for a start. ;)

"are you suggesting that we do a free-form jazz improv in front of a festival audience?"

they may have been rock for a long time; but they got prog. as stimps points out - stonehenge was a concept album and tour; you don't get more prog than concept albums...;)

holden 01-17-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by //\/\/
they may have been rock for a long time; but they got prog. as stimps points out - stonehenge was a concept album and tour; you don't get more prog than concept albums...;)

i disagree with any inclusion of Spinal Tap into the prog scene, because the band was basically an extended joke on a lot of happenings in music during the 70's-80's. Additionally, though concept albums are perhaps more common in progressive rock, if concept albums make you prog, you've just included the Beatles and the Who in there, for "Sgt Pepper" and "Tommy" respectively.

Underworld (well, mk II and on, anyway) have been about doing their own thing, using elements of different musical styles to new effect. Their ties to art, conceptual themes, and musical exploration are much more than the average band. To me, that makes them "progressive". If Prog rock in general makes you cringe, then perhaps you are only thinking of it at its worst and most overblown. That was not always the case...The music was, in it's day, very cutting edge, totally unlike what was happening in rock and pop. Like it or not, it has its place as a movement and many modern acts owe much to the genre (from space rock to shoegaze to IDM).
I don't think it's at all sullying the name of UW to call them progressive, because they DO share traits with that movement. The first time i heard "Stagger", it reminded me of some old King Crimson track. Certainly, they have been an electronic dance band for some time, and that's where their bread and butter is, how they ultimately are labeled and regarded, etc. But simple reasons such as their willingness to experiment with long musical movements, release incredible ambient and challenging music, create whole atmospheres with word/sound/performance/art, well, that's a step ahead of most acts today...Moving forward; advancing. Progressive. :)

holden

//\/\/ 01-17-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by holden
i disagree with any inclusion of Spinal Tap into the prog scene, because the band was basically an extended joke on a lot of happenings in music during the 70's-80's. Additionally, though concept albums are perhaps more common in progressive rock, if concept albums make you prog, you've just included the Beatles and the Who in there, for "Sgt Pepper" and "Tommy" respectively.

"sense of humour failure - level b"

holden 01-17-2006 03:09 PM

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i lost my humour with this thread pages ago! Thanks for the clarification, though...can't say i've followed the Tap's career:rolleyes:
Since i was a kid, i've been "that guy" defending bands i liked and felt were more musically developed than the top 40 poop everyone else was heralding. Guess i'm still at it:o


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