Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

OK I just talked to Bryan from Reset Events. The venue hasn't changed, but the exact set times are still being worked out. The website should be updated fully by Monday.
There are VIP sky boxes available w/bottle service & food at $450 if you already have a ticket. Would be cool to have a dirty box, but that's too $ for me:o

Time to find a costume I guess...

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Thanks Darktrain for the leg work on this. I just emailed a rep from 4th and B as to what is happening because someone from another forum is stating that L.E.D. & AEG are still the promoters for the UW show and that Reset is only promoting the 'afterhour party" at fourth and B. The set times (according to this person) is:

8:00-9:30pm Bareback DJs
9:30-10:30pm Deth Hertz
10:30pm-11:45pm Underworld

I can't believe all this drama that has happen before this show has even taken place. I guess I'm just glad to be checking out UW at all this year, though a 3 hr set would be pretty EPIC!

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Ugh, now their set is too f'n short?!
Emotional rollercoaster!

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

So now it's 75 mins? What was supposed to be a club gig set in a small venue has now turned into a festival gig set?? I hope this isn't the case.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Thanks to everyone for sharing all this information. This whole thing is turning weird. It seems like a lot of us opted for this show because UW originally were listed as the only band.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

still waiting for a response from the rep @ 4th and B...

this FB event page is the one that is throwing me off as to who the real promoter for the show (vs. www.screamsanddreams.com):
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...187915&index=1

In either case, I made the decision last night to keep my Hard Haunted Mansion ticket to catch UW twice this time around (hopefully HARD doesn't fuck things up like last year)...

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

I always figured there would be an opening act and then the boys. But this is getting out of hand. A bunch of nobody DJ's squeezed into an evening that many of us had expected to be a proper night of music without the HARD bullshit.

On the other hand, are UW so beholden to their pre-determined setlist that they're going to do the same show at every event, no matter how big or small and this rave-lineup nonsense is just a by-product of that approach to this tour?

I'm going to be one pretty un-happy bollock if the SD show turns out to be just like HARD LA. I mean, I'm not the biggest Felix da Housecat fan, but THAT show sounds like the best of the US tour dates.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

The guy I talked to said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that AEG did the booking but ticket sales were sluggish, so Reset was hired to aid in promotion, beef up the lighting/soundsystem and make it more like a Halloween party.
Reset wanted Underworld to go on later but AEG doesn't like their artists ending after midnight, so the times he mentioned as possibilities were 8-11, 9-12, and 10-1.

With the whole event going from 7-4, I suspect that the AEG-booked acts have a 4-hour window to fill, with the Reset-booked acts filling out the night.

Why would Underworld would be crammed into such a short time slot, though? Perhaps they're contractually bound to be done by a certain time? 10-11:45 would be a bit more reasonable, IMHO.

I too opted for SD after last year's HARD debacle, and while the 21+ certainly helps, I'm still a bit bummed at how this is seemingly turning out...though if they go on at all it'll be better than last time.
(trying to get all my complaining out of my system now and enjoy myself on the night:))

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Make it 10-12. We get two hours and they're off by midnight. Done.

And what's with AEG having an issue about whether their artists play after midnight?

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Exactly. Yeah, I thought there'd be at least one opener. I just kind of meant that UW were the headliner in the sense that they're a real headliner (as opposed to headlining HARD/Live 105's festivals). I'd read some odd things about the 4th & B regarding their booking of multiple opening acts in order to get people to drink more to fill the time, but having never been there, I wouldn't know.

10-12 would make me so happy. A 75 minute set is almost not worth the effort (well, to me...the 18 hour roundtrip to SD is not appealing to me right now).

Maybe AEG has contracts with the unions or something (like in Los Angeles).

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

so the rep (Judy) from 4th and B got back to me, here's what I'd asked and her response,

me:
Judy:
The VIP seating was mentioned because my previous questions to her were about the Box seating at 4th and B which I scored tickets to the day this event went on-sale. This is starting to sound very promising again, I'll take a 10:30-12:30 UW time slot... Perhaps everything gets finalized tomorrow?

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Thank you very much for sharing that correspondence, pianopisser. It does indeed sound very promising (I would love it if we could at least get a 2 hour show).

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Thanks very much for the quality and precise follow up for all of us. Safe travels for everyone going. I'm making a vacation out of it, so I'll be driving there Wednesday.


Jason

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

The 10/10:30 to 1a slot must stand!!! We have it in writing...

Well, at least this is better news - thx for the info.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

the wife and i are on our way out to the hospital for the delivery of our daughter. can someone please add me to the dirty meet list? a few close mates from LA will also be joining my group.

looking forward to seeing you all this saturday!

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Congrats on the upcoming birth, Chris.

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Thx for this. I too landed the VIP seats the day of the sale. This is some positive news amidst all this other insanity. I will be in utter bliss if they play a 2hr slot. :):(:mad::o:D:rolleyes::cool::eek:

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

just wanted to post that dani (psychic friend) over on the coachella forum posted the following earlier today, she's a GV employee so just factor that in (as to the accuracy of this info):

so.....who knows whats going on. but 90 minutes for UW seems 99% likely; 35 mins for blaqk audio is odd though unless it was a typo.

i'm another HARD summer '09 refugee and despite being a fan of the boys since the late 90s, this will be my first time to see them. i really hope they (and me) aren't swallowed by a silly 1-day festival setting. whole reason i didn't buy my tix to HARD haunted mansion right away.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Wow, that sounds absolutely lame. It'd be nice if the two promoters were on the same page.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

(Forgive my little introduction here that I wanted to make in case R&K should be reading at some point…)

I am so extraordinarily grateful that UW has opted for this gig in my hometown and current city of residence. Thank you so very much, Richard Smith and Karl Hyde. God bless ya both. I’ve seen you two play live perhaps five times, but this is the first I’ve ever heard of you coming to San Diego. Thank you so much, again.

Hello all. I’m having a bit of a weird evening, but that’s not a tangent I want to take, this being my first post in many years. Don’t know if there’s still anyone around who was here back in 2002, but that was the last time I posted with any regularity. I think my forum name might have been “Lifedownstairs” back then, but I’m not sure. I most often chatted with King Of Snake, Yannick, and other cool people I can’t remember.

Anyway! I live in San Diego and I’m going to the show Saturday night (of course), and I’m *also* a refugee from the aborted Forum show last year. (Oh how I wish I would have simply paid for the plane ticket to Oakland to see UW at the Fox!)

I’d like to know exactly what the hell’s going on at 4th&B, more specifically I’d like to see UW guaranteed *at least* ninety minutes, and thankfully it does seem that’s the case. Of course, what I’d really like to see is two hours, and perhaps they will indeed end up getting that. On that note, I certainly wouldn’t object to an all-nighter, Ã* la Fuji Rock or Blue Mountain. (Didn’t they play some miles-long gig at one of those shows?) But yeah that won’t be happening at 4th&B.

But, we can all be “stoked” (you out-of-towners might hear that round here – it’s Surfer for “ecstatic”) that UW seems to be getting an ok time slot. (Did they get more than ninety minutes at the Fox last year?) I say, however, let us all pray for that extra half hour to round this gig out to two hours. (I personally will be stomping the shite out of that floor when it comes time for an encore.)

Sorry for the long-windedness, but I really just want to say that, as a native San Diegan, I’m here to help with directions, touring/vacation info, etc. And I’d most certainly be interested in any meetup taking place.

Please forgive me for not looking further into the thread, but has a meetup been confirmed as happening?

I know this post is bloody long, and I apologize for that (and expect to take some heat for it), but I guess by making this remark, I’m only making it longer.

A couple of final points – what is this VIP seating (I have standard general admission) and is anyone going to Hard Haunted Mansion the following night?

I love you, my peers, my fellow hardcore Underworld fans.

Rest easy,
Aaron

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

i didn't go (because i opted for HARD, still stings) to the fox theater show but i have the bootleg of that performance and iirc UW played for about 2 hours, even though they were scheduled 90 minutes.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

That makes two of us! I'm glad it was set up for video stream though! I connected my iPhone and enjoyed the show from my big screen TV. That was cool! But it was certainly a let down that the Forum gig was shut down...

I haven't heard that term in ages! I'd say it's up there with Rad and Bitchin'!!! :D

The VIP seating was offered during the pre-sale. There are some box seats behind the floor and this is the area. It's close to the bar. I believe these sold out pretty quick as the section is rather small.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Very good info! I had no idea how long they were scheduled for, and it's great that they went over half an hour. The only thing that scares me that the same thing might not happen here is that the Bay Area may be a little more wonderfully liberal when it comes to music, particularly toward the legendary Underworld. (I did watch the Fox show via the stream that night, which was particularly well executed.)

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

The boys are coming out here all the way from the UK, that venue better let them play for 2 hours! Take no less R & K!!! :D

2 more days! 2 more days!!!
"in the dark with the lights off. concealed. i'm thinking of you still..." :cool:

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Ugh! I can't even tell you, man. Most of the crowd there was so very not, well, I don't want to sound elitist, but may I say "evolved"? (And I mean that strictly in a spiritual/mental way, obviously.) I would have loved to see Beetroots too, and they didn't get to go on either, if memory serves. (And I barely missed my beloved Crystal Castles, as I think they were playing as I waited in those obscene lines to get in.)

The crowd seemed so cool at the Fox. I watched the stream, too, and I thought the cast was brilliantly done! "Beautiful Burnout", in particular, annihilated my face.

I really, truly love OWB. Best UW album title ever, too. Musically, it's not my very fave, however, as there's no way I could ever choose between ST, BF & DN. While on the topic, though, would anyone besides myself have preferred that the original title for BF stuck ("Tonight, Matthew, I'm Going To Be Underworld")?

Hah! Yes, I'm afraid many Surfer terms aren't terribly imaginative, but I suppose they do the job. Cross the pond, my fave UK slang so far has to be "cocker spaniel", as it can mean "one's lifetime", right?


Right, thank you for that. All I care about is being in the front, up against the railing. I'm not sure how early I'll have to get there for that, but I'm thinking it could be early as 4p..


But what about this meetup? I'm especially interested in meeting anyone from outside the States. Ran into a really lovely guy from Wales, I think, at the Forum "show". (He even looked like Rick, so the whole night I was just kind of fascinated by the resemblance.)

Oh, and does anyone know if Yannick and/or King of Snake are still around? I think Yannick is Canadian, and KoS Dutch, perhaps? And particularly Scott Warner, obviously. Didn't he say he was going to the San Diego show? I've never actually met Scott..

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Ideas have been kicked around but no one's made the executive decision, as it were. There's conflicting times for doors open and for underworld (screamsanddreams.com STILL isn't updated).

So, unless anyone is damned opposed, let's officially say Johnny Brown's at 6:00pm. That'll give us at least an hour (if doors are at 7) or more (if doors are at 8 and/or if we don't care to hear the openers).

http://downtownjohnnybrowns.com/

I'll have on a bright red adidas jacket/beard/glasses, so pretty easy to spot. I'll try to be at the bar, but may wind up at a table if it's too packed.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

This sounds really good to me, but I have a bit of an embarrassing admission to make. I am, indeed, a fanatical UW fan, as their music has been an *integral* part of my life for the last decade. I just have to see them from the rails (I won't scream like a girl or anything, but my eyes will be *very* big), so I wonder if this does indeed mean I should get in line in the late afternoon.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

If no one does, I'm going to assume that I should go ahead and get there *that* early, so I'll obviously miss the meetup. I really don't want to miss seeing you guys, though, so what if I propose an aftershow meetup at a Denny's (chain diner)? I'll drive whoever doesn't have a car (or as many as will fit in my Civic), and I'll take whoever back to their hotels/cars after..

How does this sound?

Only thing is that I might be waiting around a bit after the gig to see if I can possibly share a hug with R/K/D.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Even if doors are at 7 as originally listed, I think 4 would be WAY too early, imho. At most non-festival shows I've been to (and not just underworld, mind you) you can get right up front during/just after the opening act with a lot of polite excuse-me's and persistence.

Besides, we're bound to be more fun than standing in line;)

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

i probably won't get to SD till close to 7pm, so we'll be going straight to the venue... we're leaving LA at about 4pm - so it all depends on traffic... we could get down there in less than 2hrs if the asphalt isn't full of rubber once we hit the pedal...

i'll be in box 1 of the VIP section with my buddy O.P. my wife decided to stay home so I can go crazy at the show. we'll be the tall guy / short guy combo - kind of like R & K :D

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

this sounds exactly like me; except not screaming like a girl, i might even do that.

like its already been said i don't think you'll need to get there too early to hit the rails. i don't see much cross-over between blaqk audio and underworld fans, and i doubt you'll have a gigantic rush once the doors open.

i think meeting at 6 and then maybe heading over shortly thereafter (depending on doors) would be fine. has anyone actually called 4th and B to see if they even know when doors open?

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

This is a good point, and I know it to be true, as well. It's just that I always feel like a bit of an ass with the persistence and all that because I'm a particularly tall guy.

Undoubtedly true, and I'm certainly keeping in mind that there are plenty of very hardcore fans on here who are just as fanatical as myself. I mean, that's bloody well why we're here, innit? :)

So, I think I will meet up with you guys at 6. Still, I gotta tell you, it does make me a little nervous.. (ya know, cuz I'm tall, and I don't like feeling like an ass.)

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

The drive I'm *easily* most familiar with on this Earth is the one on the 101/405/5 between S.D. and L.A. I say, with it being a Saturday (and not, for example, a Friday), you should very well be alright leaving (no later than) 4p.

Of course, you probably already knew that.. :o

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

I was emailed today an update from facebook that the name of the event has change to "AEG LIVE presents Underworld feat. Blaqk Audio" ( link )

I also talked to Judy @ 4th and b about the VIP situation today over the phone. She mentioned that only two boxes were offered during the ticket on-sale and that the remaining boxes are for the VIP w/ "bottle service". So those of us that have box seats up stairs will not have the bottle service. Just thought to clear that up

She also mentioned that the set-times have not been finalized. I sure what Rabbitwork posted in the last page will be true cause I'm also part of the coachella boards and what Dani says typical stands true.

Not sure if I can make the dirty meet up but I'm in box 1 during the show. I'm a big tall guy with a pony tail with a shorter Asian gf. I just got done checking the Gorillaz last night (Brilliant show!) and it's been an AMAZING month of live gigs happening in LA this month (went to nine already). But this Saturday night has always been the one I've been waiting for since the the ticket on-sale. Hope everyone has the time of their life this weekend, I'll be at be at the LA gig the next day as well !! :D

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Hah! I'll probably be right there with you, after all..

Good points, again, though you never can tell what other music a UW fan is into. We seem to be the most eclectic lot of nearly all music fans.

Didn't you post before that Dani from the Coachella boards said she got 8p from the promoter? Of course, yeah, this could always be wrong... so I think I'll take it upon myself to call up the venue tomorrow eve and try to find out.. or even this eve..

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

+1. Good info, solid post, man.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Something to note: USC/Oregon game starts at 5pm, and every bar with a TV will be packed for it. Just occurred to me. Still, I think we could get a table.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

i'll be loitering about in the downtown area saturday. i'll be wearing a black cap, gray jacket with an ornate skull image in the back, glasses and ponytail:)

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

I'm pretty mental with anticipation right now. It strangely feels like nothing between now and tomorrow night even really matters.

Seriously considering going to Hard, too. Does anyone know if we might hear a couple of different tunes on Sunday, whatever they may be?

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

Odds are very low for diff. tunes between SD & SF. SF is a festival set with at least 1, maybe up to 3 songs dropped from the club sets. You won't hear Dirty Epic at either, i'd guess, and you most likely won't hear Pearls Girl at either. I'd have to check to see the running time of a show that has DE, PG and Moaner but i'd guess it's closer to 1:45 than 1:15 set time allotted for the SF show.

Re: 2010-10-30 - 4th and B, San Diego
 

No, I mean SD & LA..