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testudo 07-23-2010 01:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 125231)
I just did it and it worked!

However, it didn't charge me for shipping. For the hundreds of times i've tried to order this, I should get free shipping anyway, but i'm sure this is going to fuck up my order somehow.

I'm going to immediately change my PayPal password though, just in case.

I fear that if I do this my order will be canceled by UW (due to no shippping) I will have to re-order again and then...

Banstylin' 07-23-2010 01:44 AM

Re: Barking Pre-Order (Problems)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by testudo (Post 125249)
I fear that if I do this my order will be canceled by UW (due to no shippping) I will have to re-order again and then...

Testudo, I did this and got all the way through to paypal where shipping was included in the total amount (This was because I specified United States from a drop down box on the underworld site). I did not press the actual pay button because I'm a bit paranoid and feel it won't be an official order through proxy... but it works...

testudo 07-23-2010 01:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Banstylin' (Post 125250)
Testudo, I did this and got all the way through to paypal where shipping was included in the total amount (This was because I specified United States from a drop down box on the underworld site). I did not press the actual pay button because I'm a bit paranoid and feel it won't be an official order through proxy... but it works...

like i said... i'll have to re-order, whats the point?

TheBang 07-23-2010 02:02 AM

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Guys, the way this works is that the Underworld Shop does geo-location on your IP address, and presents the products in your native currency accordingly (I'm assuming that it defaults to British Pounds for locations it can't identify or is not configured for their currency, like ThingInABook's Chile).

During checkout, it passes this currency type and amount to the payment processor (PayPal). Unfortunately, it appears that their PayPal account is currently configured to only accept British Pounds.

So, there's no way to circumvent this, unless you can make your IP Address appear to be in the UK (through a proxy or VPN), and even then it might cause problems with the shipping, as noted.

Why so eager to try to circumvent the system? Just be patient, and let them sort it out (yes, it is taking an inordinate amount of time for it to get properly sorted), but do you really want to place your order while the system if FUBAR'd? Just have patience; I'm sure there'll be plenty for everybody.

testudo 07-23-2010 02:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 125252)
Why so eager to try to circumvent the system? Just be patient, and let them sort it out (yes, it is taking an inordinate amount of time for it to get properly sorted), but do you really want to place your order while the system if FUBAR'd? Just have patience; I'm sure there'll be plenty for everybody.

I think people would be more at ease if someone from Team Underworld or Digital Monkeys would email, post on the forum, some for of communication.

Karl's disconnected diary posts seem silly in this context.

I love how the monitors/admins on this forum are just ignoring it.

testudo 07-23-2010 02:12 AM

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Ps who ever told UW via UWbeta to change to PayPal... wow, you deserve a medal.

the system was fine with my Scribble download before this.

way to change a thing that works.

TheBang 07-23-2010 02:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by testudo (Post 125253)
I love how the monitors/admins on this forum are just ignoring it.

Ignoring what?

Spooky Shoes 07-23-2010 02:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by testudo (Post 125253)
I love how the monitors/admins on this forum are just ignoring it.

You seem to be assuming that this forum is a part UWL. It is not, as you can see the staff here are trying to help but have no influence over the systems at UWL and can only act as "middle men" which they are doing. If you are going to bash make sure you have your facts straight first.

khouri 07-23-2010 03:16 AM

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Any and all complaints are 100% valid. As someone who works in digital content for a living, I can tell you this is a disgraceful episode. I suspect the band or someone they're friends with are trying to build this shop themselves because sorting out a PayPal-based ordering system is so easy, any amateur web developer can do it after reading the basic FAQ.

I say the following as as devoted and supportive an Underworld fan as anybody can be: Gentlemen, you are on the cusp of a well earned mainstream blitz, but your main portal to the world, your website, is astonishingly unhelpful. How many new "Scribble" listeners visited Underworldlive.com today to buy the album and were turned away? How many will forget about this whole thing when the album finally leaks in September and not even bother to download it on Pirate Bay? You NEED to fix it.

TheBang 07-23-2010 03:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 125264)
I suspect the band or someone they're friends with are trying to build this shop themselves

I don't disagree with the rest of what you've said, but this is wrong. It's already been well established that Digital Animal is responsible for the new website. IMO, it has not been money well-spent so far.

Spooky Shoes 07-23-2010 03:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 125264)
Any and all complaints are 100% valid.

I am not saying otherwise, but slinging shit at staff of these forums is misplaced.

Complaints should be sent to this address...

Quote:

If you experience any problem checking out please email support@digitalanimal.com.

King of Snake 07-23-2010 03:34 AM

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I'm definitely questioning the competence of Digital Animal if they're responsible for this.
It seems that ALL that is needed is for them to change a preference setting regarding the accepted currency in their paypal account. A 2 minute job. I wonder how many days this is going to take to fix this time? :rolleyes:

Spooky Shoes 07-23-2010 03:53 AM

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Disabling the geo-location may also help.

Spooky Shoes 07-23-2010 05:19 AM

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As there are 2 methods of payment available via the Paypal checkout (Credit/Debit card & Paypal transfer) it might be useful if those who are having problems indicate which method they are using. The reason I am mentioning this is because Credit/Debit card payments should not be tied to a currency or geographical location.

TheBang 07-23-2010 05:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooky Shoes (Post 125272)
As there are 2 methods of payment available via the Paypal checkout (Credit/Debit card & Paypal transfer) it might be useful if those who are having problems indicate which method they are using. The reason I am mentioning this is because Credit/Debit card payments should not be tied to a currency or geographical location.

Doesn't matter. The currency choice is being transmitted from the shop to the payment gateway. Funding method doesn't even come into it at that point yet.

Spooky Shoes 07-23-2010 05:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 125273)
Doesn't matter. The currency choice is being transmitted from the shop to the payment gateway. Funding method doesn't even come into it at that point yet.

Shame, was just a thought as when I buy stuff internationally via cards currency is irrelevant even with a PP checkout. Unfortunately it's an issue that I can not easily replicate without using a proxy, using a proxy isn't an issue in itself but I am reluctant to transmit my CC details via such a mechanism.

testudo 07-23-2010 06:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 125265)
I don't disagree with the rest of what you've said, but this is wrong. It's already been well established that Digital Animal is responsible for the new website. IMO, it has not been money well-spent so far.

UW, please fire Digital Animal... as well as any Analogue Animal who might be in charge of hiring Digital Animal.

ThingInABook 07-23-2010 06:19 AM

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and why regular credit card transfer ins't working anymore?

not everybody has a paypal account. mine was opened 2 years ago, when i bought something of uwlive's shop. and that's when it got configured to british pounds (and has been like that ever since). also, when the scrbble downloads were avaliable, the old cart system charged me almost the same price of the track for the transfer, something paypal doesn't.

FIX IT!!

lectoid 07-23-2010 06:22 AM

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It is definitely an IP issue. I got GBP prices on my ipad at home. I brought it to work and refreshed the page, getting USD prices. public facing IP at home 173.246.xxx.xxx, is IP at work is 70.155.xxx.xxx. I know that's not going to help anyone, just trying to get info out there.

potatobroth 07-23-2010 08:48 AM

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I was able to purchase the album just now, from NJ, USA. I opted NOT to log into Paypal and just pay by credit card. Not sure if that mattered, or if the system had been fixed already but it went thru.

~$65 total with shipping to the states.

charleswise 07-23-2010 08:51 AM

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It works now!

Just purchased from US with Paypal. I couldn't do it yesterday bit now it's fixed.

Troy McClure 07-23-2010 08:52 AM

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I was just able to purchase with no issues.....live in cesspool of Arizona.

Jason

lectoid 07-23-2010 08:54 AM

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Start checking again everyone. I just checked from my work PC and it's working now. Wasn't working about an hour ago, but now I see the paypal site where I can pay.

GO GO GO!!!


Why are you still reading this.

King of Snake 07-23-2010 09:00 AM

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It's all working now \o/

drumr389 07-23-2010 09:04 AM

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worked perfectly today!

DwarfeD 07-23-2010 09:06 AM

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Just ordered mine as well, now the waiting can start... Almost two months...:)

potatobroth 07-23-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DwarfeD (Post 125302)
Almost two months off...:)

fixt. ;)

lectoid 07-23-2010 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DwarfeD (Post 125302)
Just ordered mine as well, now the waiting can start... Almost two months...:)

So you're saying it's Two Months Off?:D

ultradave 07-23-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lectoid (Post 125307)
So you're saying it's Two Months Off?:D

Better than A Hundred Days Off! ;) (sits back. gives a sigh of relief..)

"You sent a payment of $66.64 USD to Smith Hyde Productions"

DwarfeD 07-23-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ultradave (Post 125309)
Quote:

Originally Posted by lectoid (Post 125307)
So you're saying it's Two Months Off?:D

Better than A Hundred Days Off! ;)


Underworld geek humor.. Me likes :D

sbommer 07-23-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Barking Pre-Order (Problems)
 
Well, I just managed to order from Denmark and got the receipt e-mail from Paypal.
But when I opted to return to the underworldlive.com shop the page took a while to load and ended up telling me that there was an "ERROR IN THE TRANSACTION !" (in caps and even with an exclamation mark).

So now I'm a little confused - was my order registrered and/or is it a problem with the money transfer?
I guess I'll have to wait and see....

m.g. 07-23-2010 12:28 PM

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It just worked perfectly from France and in € (chosing the "credit card" option) :)

mark3 07-23-2010 12:54 PM

Re: Barking Pre-Order (Problems)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sbommer (Post 125313)
Well, I just managed to order from Denmark and got the receipt e-mail from Paypal.
But when I opted to return to the underworldlive.com shop the page took a while to load and ended up telling me that there was an "ERROR IN THE TRANSACTION !" (in caps and even with an exclamation mark).

So now I'm a little confused - was my order registrered and/or is it a problem with the money transfer?
I guess I'll have to wait and see....

Hi sbommer, I got the same message when returning to Underworldlive.com (I'm ordering from Denmark too - not that it matters, I guess). I thought something had gone wrong and made the checkout again (the stuff was still in my basket) - only to find out I'd made a duplicate order.
Silly me, but "ERROR IN THE TRANSACTION !" is not the mesage you'd like to see when you just paid €60 :( This shopping site sure has it flaws.

Did you guys get a confirmation mail from uwlive? I got none...

lectoid 07-23-2010 01:03 PM

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I got one from "donot-reply@underworldlive.com":

Thank you for purchasing from UnderworldLive.com

You have pre-ordered from UnderworldLive.

Please note: Your account will not be debited until the day of release.

Product DescriptionUK£ Artist:
Product: Barking (Ltd Edition Box Set CD1/CD2/DVD) PRE-ORDER ONLY: INCLUDES FREE EXCLUSIVE NUMBERED + SIGNED ART PRINT!
Quantity: 1£ 35

Postage£ 8.51Total Price£ 43.51

Customer Details
Name:Capt. Awesome
Email:
Address:123 Fake St..
City:Bumfuck
State:NC
Postcode:00000
Country:
Phone:
Customer ID:
Transaction ID:N/A

ThingInABook 07-23-2010 01:17 PM

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weeeird. because paypal already charged me for the boxset. i've the paypal mail but none from uwlive shop.

odd.

EDIT: it also says "article no. 793", not sure what's that.

lectoid 07-23-2010 01:30 PM

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My paypal receipt has 793 on it as well. For a minute I thought that's what number I got. But I didn't want to believe it. Besides these aren't numbered as far as I know so it doesn't matter.

pw32 07-23-2010 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 125319)
weeeird. because paypal already charged me for the boxset. i've the paypal mail but none from uwlive shop.

odd.

EDIT: it also says "article no. 793", not sure what's that.

Yep same here, money has been taken out of my account and I have the paypal receipt, but no e-mail from UWlive. Not worried though, they have taken my money so they better send it through.

Bargo 07-23-2010 02:20 PM

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Ordered, hurray. :) Now to cancel the amazon order..

ultradave 07-23-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pw32 (Post 125323)
Yep same here, money has been taken out of my account and I have the paypal receipt, but no e-mail from UWlive. Not worried though, they have taken my money so they better send it through.

ditto... #793 and no confirmation e-mail from the uw shop.

Bargo 07-23-2010 03:25 PM

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Oh, it didn't even dawn on me that I should have gotten a mail from uwlive.. nope, didn't get one either. (before anyone suggests it, nothing in the spam folder either)


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