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chems1919 06-11-2010 10:52 PM

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For those purchasing the album (or hell, even downloading the album), I recommend getting the Japanese version for the bonus track. The song is called "Don't Think" and they've played it live for a little while now. It's a really good song, like 7 minutes long, and definitely adds some length to the album.

cured 06-12-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by holden (Post 123039)
Fighting download urge - gotta wait till the US release date in a week or so.

is it sad that i have bought the last 4 Chems albums the day they came out? That's how into them i was after "Exit Planet Dust" and "Dig Your Own Hole".

"Surrender" took quite a while to grow on me, as it was both more pastoral and more glossy than the sample-heavy big beat that preceeded it.

"Come With Us" (imho, their last great album) owned my stereo for weeks.

"Push the Button" and "We Are the Night" - they have their moments, but nothing that i really dig.

But i'm reallllly liking what i hear about/of this - return to form/by the numbers 90's era/ psychodelic, hatever - these are all good things after the crappy hip hop and flavor of the month collabs of the last two.


This was exactly where I was with them, although I liked "Surrender" right away.

I don't want to hype it too much, as there is a song or two I don't like (and there are maybe a couple more I think only work well live), but there is goodness to be had in it.

But yeah, don't mess with tradition :)

joethelion 06-12-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 122922)
This album sounds very chems. Could have been released anytime in the last 10 years. Its more of the same. Good but doesnt grab you by the balls.


Yes it does sound 'very chems' - but I would disagree with you about it being more of the same, as it seems that since... ~2003 - they've been going after a more pop sound than anything. When I think of "Surrender" or "Come With Us" - I think of long-ish tracks

but the last two albums, I think of radio edits

the mongoose 06-13-2010 04:12 PM

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No need to buy the Japanese version if you get the iTunes version, because the bonus track is included already. The "Visual Experience" video is cool as hell, even though a lot of the animations tend to repeat and get a tad monotonous (namely the hovering light face in 'Escape Velocity' doing the same cod mouth 3x in a row, and the polygons in 'Horse Power' get a bit bland after a minute or two). Really is a nice audio/video blast to the senses. Too bad that its not on Bluray though.

chems1919 06-13-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the mongoose (Post 123113)
Too bad that its not on Bluray though.

Yeah, I was really hoping for a Bluray release. Oh well, I'll definitely pick up the dvd sometime.

//\/\/ 06-14-2010 03:12 PM

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well, so far it's certainly an improvement on the last 2 efforts, though not grabbing me by the throat in the way that 'surrender' did...

Bargo 06-15-2010 01:58 AM

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I'm loving this album, this is really what I've wanted them to make instead of their last 2 efforts. Yeah, it definitely sounds like Chemical Brothers nestled in their comfort zone, but I've got no problems with that if the songs are good. I think this is first album since Dig Your Own Hole that hasn't possessed a single track I've wanted to skip on repeat listens.

//\/\/ 06-15-2010 05:30 AM

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a lot is growing on me - particularly those tunes after 'horse power'

i liked 'swoon' as a single - nice (if rather predictable chems) vocal sample, 'k+d+b' is pretty nice, and the album feels good by that track and 'wonders of the deep' - and definitely get the album with 'don't think' on, because it's the best track of the package and fits nicely after the last 2 tracks mentioned.

downsides: 'escape velocity' goes on for about 3 or 4 minutes too long, though. 'another world' and 'dissolve' are chems-by-numbers, stuck-in-the-middle fillers...

feels much better than the last 2 offerings, but still no 'surrender'...

potatobroth 06-15-2010 06:20 PM

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Another World blows me away. I absolutely love this track and so far its my summer song.

This album is quite good. I heard it at a listening party in NYC and then once more at a friends studio and both times I had the same positive reaction to almost every track.

The track after Swoon is pretty special too. K+D+B?

//\/\/ 06-18-2010 05:44 AM

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('the golden path' fits really nicely into this collection of tunes...)

holden 06-29-2010 06:45 PM

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this has been on play pretty regularly since Saturday. It's pretty fantastic.
There are a lot of hooks and sounds that seem like they belong on "Surrender" and that record's various B-side singles. Only a couple dancefloor bangers ("Escape Velocity" and "Horse Power"), but many pretty moments and big walls of sound. A little self-indlugent in spots (despite being only 52 minutes long, a few tracks take their sweet time fading into the next), and some passages that really rock that could have been developed further (eyeroll), but i'd say this is the biggest sonic departure for the Chemicals since "Surrender" and their best album since "Come With Us".

potatobroth 06-30-2010 09:25 AM

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Yep. I love it. Its been played once a day for me since purchase.

the mongoose 06-30-2010 05:02 PM

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Those with US iTunes Further "Pass" will be very fucking happy when "Pourquoi" automatically downloads on your next sync.:cool::cool::cool::):):cool::cool::cool:

Underworld needs a Barking iTunes "Pass" as well!!!!:eek:

Champiness 07-01-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the mongoose (Post 123936)
Underworld needs a Barking iTunes "Pass" as well!

Amen to that!

bas_I_am 07-03-2010 03:58 AM

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Fuck iTunes. . .

I dont know why people use crapple

the mongoose 07-04-2010 01:16 PM

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A buddy of mine posted a vid of his kid dancing to "Dissolve":

>>>Click<<<:D

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 07-30-2010 08:36 AM

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Okay, just wondering what people think of this now that it's been out for almost 2 months?

I've been relistening to the Chems a lot lately, I've found this to be their most 'album-based' release, as in that it's more than just the sum of its parts. I think the opener "Snow" couldn't really be listened to otherwise. Overall I'd say this fits in with their first three albums quality-wise and may even be their best (**re-listens to Dig Your Own Hole**) second best album

What I really dig is that it seems to be very mindful of early electronic music. At times it plays a lot like used vinyl, during the quiet parts there is a bit of distortion and some skipping, which was intentional and gives the album a sort of unsettling feel. In some places it feels very 'old school', not like early-90's but early-70's! I heard "Escape Velocity" described as "Tangerine Dream remixed by Justice" - I really liked that description, and in addition there are the "Baba O'Reilly" synths there. Also, in the middle of the track, when the beats drop out and it's just the synths, they sound almost identical to the oscillators used by the Silver Apples back in 1968!

There are really a lot of moments like that - for example in "Dissolve", the intro has sounds very similar to Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht period, very massive and cold, and there are a lot of things to look for as you relisten to this. I too wish it were longer but only because it's so good..."Don't Think" is certainly a great addition if you have iTunes

I do agree that "Swoon" gives you a headache...lots of high frequencies and noisy moments, but it's only one in a long line of headache-inducing bangers by the Chems. Even if it's a little painful, it's also very euphoric.

I know it seems like I'm gushing a lot, but a little background...in 1999, I was just 13 years old, I owned EPD, DYOH, the DJ Mix album (which is amazing!!) and a few singles...I thought the Chems were like, the best group ever (along with Underworld and yes, Fatboy Slim, I began liking UW a bunch more around 2002 when I picked up Everything Everything, and pretty much forgot about Fatboy). When Surrender dropped it became my new favorite album, even though all the magazines and websites were ragging on them for not making another "Block Rockin' Beats". In retrospect the Chems look pretty good, as the "Big Beat" movement didn't even survive the decade. Since then I've gotten excited for each new album - Come With Us was good, but kind of treaded water, and I really did like Push the Button, though it didn't really give me the feeling of the first three. We Are the Night...good instrumentals, but the collabs were killing them. This however takes me back quite a bit and reminds me of why I thought the Chems were the best group in the world when I was a teenager. People throw the term "return to form" around a lot these days but really it truly applies here. I'm not saying it's album of the year or anything (I'm still very impressed by the LCD Soundsystem album), but it's definitely in the running, and I say now the ball is squarely in Underworld's court, though I know they'll deliver too, which is awesome.

Gogo US tour!!

spacejunk 07-30-2010 01:44 PM

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Great review. And yeah for the US tour!

Cranks 08-05-2010 01:57 PM

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US tour, if you can call it that. Only 4 dates: LA, San Fran, Chicago & NY. It sucks that they don't play more shows here, like Seattle, Philly, Boston, Miami. They haven't played live here in Florida since '99. So, I'm packing my bags and flying to Chicago for the Sept. 3 show.

Enjoying the album a lot. Definitely think Swoon is the worst track of the bunch. Nice review.

darktrain 08-05-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranks (Post 125788)
Definitely think Swoon is the worst track of the bunch.

Not a fan of Orbital?:p

holden 08-05-2010 07:33 PM

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I've been playing "Further" at least once a day for the past month, and even more frequently a few weeks back. I think it's now my 3rd favorite Chemical Brothers records, behind "Dig Your Own Hole" and "Exit Planet Dust", just ahead of "Come with Us" and "Surrender". Miles ahead of the past two records.

Troy McClure 08-05-2010 08:27 PM

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Finally decided the buy the iTunes pass today...I had been listening to it via my Zune subscription for awhile. Very glad I bought it. Today's posts certainly did the trick.

I remember they did a tour to support Come With Us in 2002, and they actually came to Phoenix along with Sasha and Digweed's Delta Heavy tour as a double bill.

Jason

Cranks 08-05-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 125796)
Not a fan of Orbital?:p

Actually, I'm a huge fan of Orbital and obviously here the similarities with Lush, but I think Lush is a much better track. Swoon sounds a little too 'Les Rhythm Digitales' to me. The lead synth in Swoon is constant and drives me in to a cold sweat, like when I'm in a dentist's chair getting a cavity filled with that drill noise penetrating my head. So yeah, I don't like that so much.

the mongoose 09-08-2010 10:37 PM

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Another World EP is pretty damn banging....recommended. :cool:

holden 09-11-2010 05:40 PM

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Another month and no sense of faltering. "Further" has struck a nerve that "We are the Night", "Push the Button" and most of "Come With Us" and "Surrender" couldn't do.

stimpee 09-12-2010 02:41 AM

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Tracklist:

01. Another World (Radio Edit) [02:57]
02. Swoon (Boyz Noize Summer Remix) [05:21]
03. Swoon (Lindstrom & Prins Thomas Remix) [09:27]
04. Horse Power (Popof Remix) [06:35]


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