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King of Snake 11-23-2005 09:48 AM

Re: Do you share your Underworld mp3s?
 
Yes I share and download commercially released stuff. I think the only commercial UW i have shared is 1992-2002 and some singles, just cause I don't have the other stuff as mp3. Most of the uw stuff i share is liveshows and remixes.
I do try and buy cd's that I've downloaded if i really like them and find myself playing them regularly. I don't do it 100% of the time, but now that I've got a job and regular salary, I'm buying more music, and also buying actual cd's that I only had copies of before.

dubman 11-23-2005 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the real stuff
Maybe this is raising people's standards -- these days a CD has to be a little more worthy in the consumer's eye before he decides to buy it. Otherwise he could just download it for free off soulseek, right?

I've been exposed to a lot of artists through downloading mp3s -- Underworld included -- and for some of those artists I now own their entire back catalogue. These are some of my favorite bands now.

The process of discovering new music on the internet with no risk involved is (arguably) an improvement over what we might have done before, which is buying a CD in the store based on something you might have heard and ultimately not digging it much. There was a risk of not getting your money's worth. Downloading free music eliminates this risk.

Not saying that makes it right or wrong, just offering my thoughts.

i'll go the extra mile and say that *is* what makes it right.

to think that some years ago people would drop a 20 on a CD they had a 50/50 chance of giving it to the bargain bin... it's nuts.
maybe not so much for those with a bank account, but when you're 13-16 or so, it kinda sucks getting ripped off with a bad CD. and probably keeps people away from getting as involved in music as others.
now people KNOW what they like before they potentially buy it, making music their money's worth, instead of marketing teams blinding you with PR and dodgy reviews.

i remember being 14 and thinking "i really, REALLY dont want to spend ten dollars on an orbital single with three tracks" so GUESS WHAT? i stole it! now i know there's no one to blame there but myself, and it's wrong, but since napster and having regular access to P2P programs from then on, that attitude really dropped off (that and me growing up and deciding shoplifting is a shitty thing to do in life...;) )

gambit 11-23-2005 10:13 AM

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I do but only stuff that is incredibly difficult to find. I don't share the albums or live album or anthology (or a couple EPs).

Bargo 11-23-2005 10:14 AM

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The only Underworld stuff I share are bootlegs, same as any other artist in my P2P share settings.

stimpee 11-23-2005 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by den
Why give special treatment to one band?

Because you respect them more than other bands? I did say " I guess it is how deeply I feel for a particular artist, how much they have given me musically and what that has meant to me, and basically how much I respect an artist."

I'll probably end up sharing the live bootlegs again though. I think I took the UW offline about 6 months ago, as I realised that out of all the bands I've been into, theyve given me more than any other. I suppose thats just a sign of good music (or me getting old).

noisegeek 11-23-2005 12:02 PM

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I have a cd with approx 25 mp3s that I will occasionally give to someone as an "Underworld Intro". Here in the midwest most people are only familiar with Underworld as a dance act (if they've heard of them at all), so if I think someone might be into them I try to provide a better sampling of Underworld's variety.
I'm an Underworld pusher.

den 11-23-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stimpee
Because you respect them more than other bands? I did say " I guess it is how deeply I feel for a particular artist, how much they have given me musically and what that has meant to me, and basically how much I respect an artist."

I see your point about appreciating and respecting a band. I could see not wanting to make the entire catalogue of band you love available for someone to come and take for free. On the other hand, one could make the point that not sharing music would keep other people from being exposed to that band who might grow to love them as much as you do. But of course, no one has an obligation to share music. Personal preferences.

Not trying to twist your reasoning, but for the sake of discussion, is it ok for someone to share music of bands that they respect less? Does sharing a band's music become a sign of disrespect?

stimpee 11-23-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by den
I see your point about appreciating and respecting a band. I could see not wanting to make the entire catalogue of band you love available for someone to come and take for free. On the other hand, one could make the point that not sharing music would keep other people from being exposed to that band who might grow to love them as much as you do.

which is where the argument for only sharing the bootlegs and non-commercially released stuff would come in i suppose. music by the band is available in your share for people to experience but not the cd's available in the shops (or in the case of LovelyBrokenThing, online).
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Originally Posted by den
Not trying to twist your reasoning, but for the sake of discussion, is it ok for someone to share music of bands that they respect less? Does sharing a band's music become a sign of disrespect?

I think that as most people share music then it cant be seen a sign of disrespect to share it. too much music and too many bands. but to not share it, is not the norm these days and so is probably more of a sign of respect.

stimpee 11-24-2005 02:13 AM

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Anyway, nice poll so far. 17 no, 18 yes (if you total em)...

Puppy 11-24-2005 03:52 AM

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I don't share any of the UW LPs but I do share all of the remixes and b-sides I've gathered over time from picking up old singles.

I have no ethical problems with this, mainly because there are a lot of great tracks that I think any UW fan would love to have, but the chances finding e.g. the pearls girl single (with Oich Oich and Cherry Pie) in a shop are very slim. Fair enough if you can go into a shop and buy the tracks then I personally would do that, but realisticly P2P is a better choice for getting the more elusive numbers.

Anyway, I'm sure UW wouldn't be pissed at fans for swapping old tracks that came from cds that stopped being made years ago....


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