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raj

there is certainly a 1 track Japanese Promo CD in jewel case (just radio edit)

and i've seen an Australian one (which may be the same as the Japan - i.e. an eastern /asian release)

i'm not sure there are any promo 12" knocking about at all... i think its all promo cd

Matt

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lloyd blogged the one-track promo:

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2007/0...ian-promo.html

The Australian and Japan are probably not the same, as it is PIAS in AU and Traffic in JP.

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.jp promo http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2007/0...ese-promo.html

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from a listing on discogs: http://www.discogs.com/release/1092945

The Book Of Jam Video (22:19)

DVD-1 Crocodile. Video. (3:57)
Other [Video Directed By] - Simon Taylor
Other [Video Edited By] - Gareth Tansey

DVD-2 Tokyo Makuhari. Slide Show. (0:05)
Photography - Perou.co.uk

DVD-3 Metal Friend. Video. (1:37)
Other [Video Directed By] - Simon Taylor

DVD-4 Abbey Road. Slide Show. (0:05)

DVD-5 Good Morning Cockerel. Video. (2:31)
Other [Idea] - John Warwicker
Other [Video Edited By] - Julian Bryant
Other [Video Shot By] - Tom Bainton

DVD-6 Rez {Live}. Video. (9:28)
Other [Video Directed By] - Julian Bryant

DVD-7 ArtJam. Slide Show. (0:06)
---------------------------------
The timing for the slideshow is short, because i'm sure
you have manually step through them.

later
-1

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i hope the next single is holding the moth VERY badly. This song is completely amazing and we need a much longer version with all the jazzy piano and bass near the end (like in between 2 minutes and 4 minutes in the albumn version).

That would be EPIC, this song is EASILY one of their best!

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Let's hope! i loved this song live (as Globe). It had that clautrophobic feel of Cups with the vocoder and bass. Interested to hear how it has evolved and if it will be a single, since it's already been roadtested.

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Where can I get the version of OwB listed on this page?

http://www.keymailorder.com/cgi-bin/...new%20releases

It sounds like it would kick-ass! Maybe it's the Stephen Colbert version of the album. :D

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After steaming to the album on Download.com (I just couldn't wait until the 16th), I wrote this review. Summary: Rick, Karl, Darren-- you've all really outdone yourselves this time. "Oblivion With Bells" is probably one of the best albums I've ever heard, and I thank you for continuing to put out such creative, inspiring music in this world of mega-label domination, top 40 stations, and file-sharing lawsuits. :D
---

"Oblivion With Bells" begins with "Crocodile," the album's first single. This track, which began as a more ambient-sounding piece famously performed at the Cocoon Club in 2006, has morphed into a slick, bass-heavy piece, evoking memories of "Sola Sistim," from the band's previous album. Karl's lyrics both float over the song, and drive it, in a poetic way. "Crocodile" fades out into a simple, elegant synth pad, which soon becomes "Beautiful Burnout", a long, epic sort of song with some ambient interludes, haunting vocals, and a frenetic, tribal tom breakdown. The next track, "Holding The Moth" is initially identical to "Globe" (a song Underworld played occasionally during their last tour) but adds some jazzy piano and a few new background parts, which all add a certain complex character to the song.

After a short, lush, atmospheric piece ("To Heal"), the album hops into "Ring Road," which, for lack of a better description, is almost like a rap song. Karl's singing on this track has a very raw sound, and at first, I found it to be quite alienating. However, the track soon kicks into a phenomenally heavy, almost tribal-sounding beat, with some synths floating in the background that simply exude happiness. The chorus on this song is surprisingly catchy, and the song grows on me with each listen. "Glam Bucket" has a gloomy, epic vibe to it, and is purely instrumental, bridging well into "Boy, Boy, Boy". While "Boy" has a few really unique moments, Karl's singing is a bit grating at times. In some ways, I wish he had stuck with the smooth, vocoded style that makes tracks like "Crocodile" so easy on the ears, but I suppose the lack of technology was intentional. The band has been together, in some form or the other, for 27 years, so I'm inclined to trust their judgment.

The next track on the album, "Cuddle Bunny vs The Celtic Villages", is distinctly non-cuddly--it almost has an ominous sound to it. "Faxed Invitation" moves from mechanical clicks to ethereal synth pads, and moves perfectly into "Good Morning Cockerel". "Cockerel", a completely piano-driven track, with a violin in the background and some mournful singing from Karl, is very uncharacteristic of Underworld. Somehow, though, it fits the album perfectly. Finally, "Best Mamgu Ever" brings the album to a long, relaxing conclusion, with some more piano and a booming bassline.

All things being said, "Oblivion with Bells" is a truly beautiful album. Fans of Underworld's previous, dance-oriented tracks ("Born Slippy (Nuxx)","Pearl's Girl","Moaner") might be somewhat surprised by this album's change of pace-- I certainly was. However, my final opinion couldn't possibly be clearer. "Oblivion With Bells" is certainly one of Underworld's finest releases, and I can't possibly recommend it enthusiastically enough.

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Per here, the Schwarz and Dixon contributions are apparently in conjunction with Ame, together recording as Innervisions Orchestra, for the "Crocodile (Innervisions Orchestra Remix)"

I don't think the Pete Heller Dub really exists. The only place anywhere that mentions it is that link, and it's a typo for the Huntemann Dub, cause the catalog number listed is TRCP13.

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comes with exclusive bonus track "Born Slippy: NUTZ":p

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I'm kinda surprised though that they don't seem to be playing this at all in the current tour.

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i updated page one's first post, with the boy by boy info - assuming its correct - and have posted everything again here, will add more as it appears - just need to add the times for 'loads of birds' and the pete heller dub (if that exists) - any help appreciated,

CD1. The Album:

Crocodile - 6:30
Beautiful Burnout - 8:09
Holding The Moth - 5:29
To Heal - 2:36
Ring Road - 4:31
Glam Bucket- 5:45
Boy, Boy, Boy - 6:05
Cuddle Bunny vs The Celtic Villages - 2:22
Faxed Invitation - 4:44
Good Morning Cockerel -2:28
Best Mamgu Ever - 8:42

+ Loads of Birds (Japan ONLY) cd exclusive

other released / forthcoming tracks from this album (session) are:

crocodile - radio / single edit - 3:50 - cd
crocodile - album version- 8:57 - cd/12"
crocodile - oliver hunteman remix - 8:35 - cd/12"
crocodile - oliver hunteman dub - 7:26 - cdr
crocodile - pete heller remix - 7:33 - cd/12"
crocodile - ame/innervision remix - 10:27 - cd/12"
crocodile - pete heller dub - time unknown cd

peach tree - uk crocodile CD single (exclusive?) - time unknown - cd

ring road - simian mobile disco remix - time unknown cdr
beautiful burnout - mark knight remix - time unknown cdr - as played by dubfire on essential mix

unknown track - quinetin harris remix
unknown track - henrik schwarz remix
unknown track - dixon remix

expected, boy, boy, boy release (next single):

boy, boy, boy (album version) - 6:05 - cdr
boy, boy, boy (remix) - time unknown cdr
crocodile (innervisions orchestra mix) - time unknown cdr
faxed Invitation (jesse rose mix) - time unknown cdr
boy, boy, boy (video) - time unknown cdr

the unknown tracks / remixes have only been mentioned in articles and nothing actually exist in hard form (afaik), but i would certainly like to see some Henrik Schwarz and Harris stuff... I will keep you posted if anything surfaces or what tracks these are.

crocodile - single release date: 12/09/07 (Japan) / 08/10/07 (UK)
album release date: 03/10/07 (japan) / 16/10/07 (US) / 16/10/07 (UK)
boy, boy, boy - single release date: unknown

bonus OWB DVD contents

Crocodile (DVD)
Underworld Live In Tokyo (DVD) BGM - Boy, Boy, Boy
Metal Friend (DVD) BGM - Globe
Oblivion With Bells (Abbey Road Recording Session) (DVD)
Good Morning Cockerel (DVD)
Rez - Live Show Visuals (DVD)
The Book Of Jam, Art Jam (DVD) BGM - Faxed Invitation

other bonuses:

US only exclusive OWB T-Shirt (purple) + downloads

UK only exclusive OWB ??? - to be announced (apparently)

*several download sites have started listing the crocodile single tracks for download, which became available in Japan on iTunes last week, but relase dates for these appear to be 7th or 8th October elsewhere

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Loads of Birds is 5.29

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release date for boy boy boy in .jp Nov 14th says the hmv site.

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Did you see my post here, Matt? There is no Schwarz and Dixon remix, and the ame/innervision remix should properly be called "Innervisions Orchestra Remix"

Also, timings for the DVD.

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jsut downloaded the rather lovely Innervisions Orchestra mix from beatport, which is 10 mins 30 secs of dubby goodness. diggers played this in NYC the other week donchaknow :)

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The duration for the slideshows have been updated on the discogs site.

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Not sure if someone had posted this in another thread, but the Crocodile EP is available on USA iTunes.

They show tracklisting as:

1. Crocodile 6:32
2. Crocodile (Radio Edit) 3:55
3. Crocodile (Pete Heller Remix) 7:34
4. Crocodile (Oliver Huntemann Remix) 8:37
5. Crocodile (Innervisions Orchestra Remix) 10:27

Total price is US$4.99.

The Innervisions Orchestra Remix is available only as an album download.


-Jason

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and thats why I HATE i(suck)Tunes...

even if you just want one track, you have to get
the whole album just to get it...

and on top of that, when i try to redeem free
tracks, it won't let you use them on albums either,
only single tracks...

itunes is the most bloated, slowest, drm-laden
piece of software i've used..someday amazon
or someone else will take their place..

good riddance!

later
-1

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If I understand it correct, tower records in japan is giving away special tshirts and signed crocodile singles if you order for 5000 yen + there (in a lottery ???).

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This same tracklisting is available on 7digital.com for GBP 0.79 for each track, at 192 Kbps MP3 or AAC. The Innervisions track is able to be purchased separately.

http://www.7digital.com/artists/unde...crocodile-(1)/

Also, the same tracks are available at www.beatport.com at $1.99 each for 320 Kbps MP3 or 192 Kbps AAC. Or, for $1.00/track premium, you can get them in WAV.

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ooooh! good call, TheBang!

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HULK WANT B-SIDES
HULK SMASH REMIXES

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I completely agree with your sentiments. I have no plans of buying it off of iTunes. I've only bought one thing from iTunes, and that was so I could get presale tickets for Depeche Mode's last tour.

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I seriously just cannot wait for the new album... I NEED IT SO BAD!

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I know that tomorrow, it will supposedly be shipped here in the U.S. That alone is a landmark for me. But you're right; Tuesday is a long way from now! I'm a relatively new Underworld fan, and I wasn't even aware of them when Two Months Off came out, so this is the first time I've found myself caught up in the fervor of a new album release. I've refrained from downloading it, but I'm not sure why, really. Maybe I just like the "surprise" to hit me as late as possible; maybe I want to hear the album when it was intended to release here. Either way, I'm extremely excited about the album. Repeated listening to the "Crocodile" download from Echospin has made me dream about OWB.

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I'm in the same boat as you. I've refrained from hearing anything else on the album apart from Crocodile. I'm not sure why either... it's an incredible test of will power. I like that "waiting for Christmas morning" feeling though. Hearing the album the way it was MEANT to be heard... It'll be quite an experience.

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I might also have avoided downloading because the RIAA keeps a really close watch on students at my university (Boston U.) :) Not to mention I'd feel guilty for letting some unbeliever download 5% of the album from me if I used a torrent or similar.

I think a lot of members here (those who downloaded) would argue that it's still the way it's meant to be, even obtained illegally and in no physical form. I can no longer claim to be able to tell the difference between CD-quality and 192kbps MP3 (I've probably damaged my ears from other, less artful, electronic music!), so that's not quite it, either. I guess I'm just a person who likes to see physical evidence of the album; however, Underworld really opened my eyes to digital distribution; after I purchased the Riverrun series and read their thinking behind that medium, I appreciated the goal a lot more. Plus, the extra million photographs that came with it gave me a really nice feeling. Perhaps I just want to see the cover art in my own hands, in glorious 300+ dpi!

Speaking of which, are there any extra things to know about the gatefold release? The artwork shown on UWLive is stunning. While I make it a point to save money and refrain from buying more copies of an album that I need (and, let's face it, CD format is far more convenient), I would get the vinyl for those eerie images alone.

What excites me most about OWB is that reviewers here have a hard time agreeing on the best and worst tracks of the album. My taste in Underworld often goes against their "best-seller" material; Nuxx, Pearl's Girl, and most other big tracks grew stale soon after I heard them--possibly thanks to the 1992-2002 compilation--but I absolutely love the ignored songs; I hardly hear anyone mention dubnobasswithmyheadman's "Tongue," for example, which really hits a certain spot for me. In an album without Mega-Hits, I am likely to find a whole bunch of songs that I will love for a long time.

P.S.--To those who downloaded the leaked copy, is the watermark a sonic, audible one? If so, did you notice it? And did it affect the listening experience? I wondered about this when the leak was first announced here.

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More often than not, especially given the number of promos that are given out, it probably is not audible. And it's my understanding that it was leaked the day that it came out in Japan, so whatever version is floating around on the internet is not a promo.
________
Herbalaire vaporizer

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I thought it leaked well in advance (edit: in this case, I mean a week or so before the Japanese release). The reason I asked about audible watermarking is that Discogs has an entry for the promo version with a special note that it's watermarked (here). But yes, by now, the Japanese version must be in the majority on file-sharing services.


Thanks!

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OwB in stores in holland. Dunno about other countries.
Just got mine at the local recordstore.

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tick tock...
going to do a little record shopping on the way home, so hopefully it's in ireland too.
did you get the cd/dvd version?

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Yeah, was the only one they had Limited Edition + bonus DVD.
See my blog ;)

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Nice one, thanks Lloyd.
Roll on quitting time, the visa card is getting itchy.

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A nice DHL lady just brought me my limited edition :D

http://www.piccube.de/bilder_speiche...89c48ae6cc.jpg

grooove-groooove

/edit: to keep it clear, i pre-ordered via amazon.de, DHL delivered

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nice one lloyd. Guess I'm off into town now to do some record shopping then :)

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just an update on OWB related releases and potential confusion over tracks...

these mixes of CROCODILE do exist:

radio edit (aka single edit) - 3:52
extended version - 6:32
album version - 8:52 - 9:00
pete heller remix - 7:34
pete heller dub - 8:55
ame innervisions orchestra mix - 10:31
oliver hunteman remix - 8:36
oliver hunteman dub - 7:27

the heller dub is on UK Itunes... and its better than the original vocal mix....

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this might be a stupid question, but which tracks are on the actual cd? and is there only 1 cd single?

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stupid question... :p


uk cd1, has:

• 1. Crocodile [Radio Edit]
• 2. Crocodile [Pete Heller Remix]
• 3. Peach Tree

uk 12" 1 has:

• . Crocodile [LP Version]
• 2. Crocodile [Oliver Hunteman Remix]

uk 12" 2 has

• 1. Crocodile [Pete Heller Remix]
• 2. Crocodile [Innervisions Orchestra Mix]

japan cd maxi has:

• 1. Crocodile (Radio Edit)
• 2. Crocodile (Pete Heller Remix)
• 3. Crocodile (Oliver Hunteman Remix)
• 4. Crocodile (Oliver Hunteman Dub)

not sure if there are other versions...

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I know, I'll pick it up today with the album.
I was a little confused by Amazon's listing:
Track Listings
1. Crocodile
2. Crocodile
3. Peach Tree
4. Crocodile
5. Crocodile
6. Crocodile


cheers for that anyway.