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Any link for download?

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mmm phonestrap meets autrotrader, 6.

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Anyone agree that Phonestrap 1 would of fit in nicely on OWB?

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Thanks to anyone that has posted the Phonestrap links.
Did anyone post a download to the 'Walking around Romford or whatever it was called' snippet?

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yeah, and it is still my favourite of the phonestrap versions :)

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....Any chance of a link to mp3 downloads of Autotrader/Phonestrap - particularly of Phonestrap6/Autotrader4?
Forgive my nakedness...I'm a DirtyVirgin.

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if you have itunes you can just download the mov and convert...

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Jan posted a link just above you.

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...7&postcount=83

Right click, Save as...

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Thanks to dubman, Jan and The Bang....

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what program can you use to turn ponestrap into mp3's to put on a audio cd??

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iTunes can do the conversion...

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how do you do that with streming audio / do i need software to change it from streaming to mp3 audio thanks don't know to much about steaming audio

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It's not streaming... 99% of the things you watch online are in fact just downloads that start playing before they are finished downloading completely.

If you ever see a progress bar that fills up to the end, you know it's a download, not a stream.

If you get the "Unplug" addon for Firefox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2254) you can scan any page for downloadable media. It works like a charm for the stuff you see on uwlive, except for the Croc videos, which may in fact be actual streams. (Not sure - i'm not 100% knowledgable about this stuff, but i can make my way around.....)

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Yes, the Croc videos are streams.

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yes they are somekind of stream they do not load on to your hard drive.every time you click on one of the phonestrap audio.it brings you to the underworldlive site and starts playing the song in quick time i don't think you can burn them to a cd ..i'm i wrong please help????????

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0to9:

The Phonestraps are not streams.

Use the Firefox addon I described above to save the .mov file to your hard drive. Or, just use the various download links that people have posted in this thread.

Example: http://www.underworldlive.com/home/P...set/Ph6At4.mov

From there, you can do what you like. According to industri_studios, you can use iTunes to perform a conversion from mov to mp3.

Hopefully this just rips the mp3 out of the mov file without decoding/encoding it again. (If not, you'd be adding another layer of lossyness to the file). But it will work regardless.

Good luck

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The audio on the .mov files is not MP3, it's AAC, so transcoding to MP3 would indeed be lossy re-encoding. You can use QuickTime Pro to pass-through the AAC track to an MP4 container to get a straight .m4a file. I imagine you could use MPEG-4 editors to extract it also. I have used YAMB before on MPEG-4 files with great success.

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I thought AAC was compressed... is the loss coming from a switch between two compression formats?

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aac is compressed, so you've already got less data than the original file. if you then convert to mp3 you lose a little bit more of the information. it's basically cascading lossy compression. the ideal situation is to do as described above, where you leave the compressed file unaltered and just essentially pass through to a different file extension.

of course not everyone is going to be able to figure the process out so just keep in mind that the cascading is worse if you compress twice with the same algorithm, and is more likely to be audible. if you absolutely must convert, choose a different algorithm to try to hide as much of the audible loss as possible.

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AAC and MP3 are both lossy compressed formats.

1. lossy source -> lossy format = quality loss (ex. AAC -> MP3, 128 Kbps MP3 -> 192 Kbps MP3)
2. lossy source -> lossless format = same quality, huge file size increase (ex. MP3 -> FLAC)
3. lossless source -> lossy format = quality loss, huge file size decrease (ex. CD-DA -> MP3)
4. lossless source -> lossless format = same quality, up to 50% smaller or larger file (ex. WAV -> FLAC, FLAC -> AIFF)

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I know that stuff, Bang - I was curious where the concern was in your original message - and cacophony hit that nail on the head. Thanks guys...

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I guess I'm confused then. If you knew everything from my last post, then the concern about a lossy re-encode in my original message would seem self-evident, would it not? :confused:

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I think you misunderstood my question (giving me the overview answer).

I was asking about one particular format and was curious what the transition was for that format to MP3... cacophony answered that.

No worries.

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I made a CD comp of all the Phonestraps to date, and just used some crappy mp3 maker shareware to convert the mov to wav. Nice to hear these all back to back and sense the differences.

Phonestrap6 vs Autotrader is really my favorite thus far, with that slinky bassline and mechanical beat. Sounds like something from the AHDO era. And unlike the more chilled out new abum, it bangs!

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i;ve been trying to do the same with all of the phonestrap audio but can't seem to figure out how to convert them to wav .can you let me know step by step how to convert them ..when you have the time thanks..0to9..................................