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There's a pic on there labelled:

Underworld in 2005, left to right: Karl Hyde, Rick Smith, and Darren Price

but i fear that's wrong... looks like an older pic with a blonde karl and the old darren...? unless i'm mistaken? :confused:



p.s. of course i know nothing of wiki and am v impressed with this page you clever people are creating. nice work :)

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You are right. I've corrected it.
(wow, first time editing a wiki for me too :)

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Eh, little bits here and there. Mostly from me. I reformatted the structure of the main article recently to more closely match Wikipedia style, but I haven't changed much of the actual copy. I try to keep it up to date with the latest goings-on. The individual album and single articles could probably use some clean-up and expansion.

They deleted my wordimagesoundplay article because it was "not-notable." :mad:

The Sunshine soundtrack article is awaiting a track listing. And whoever maintains the Underworld MySpace page stole my intro paragraph from that article. :D

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one thing I think that needs to be decided on: currently Darren Price is mentioned several times in the Wiki as an official band-member of Underworld. AFAIK this has so far not been confirmed by the band and seems unlikely to happen at all. What do you think?

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this is wrong, i think the fact that there is a smaple of 'Darc' is WISP makes it VERY notable.

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oops, wrong thread,
more comments later

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Raj! Welcome back!

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With you on that one - don't think he is a member of the band per se. More a good mate that comes along to enhance things. Dunno. Will be interesting to see if he is credited on the new album or not. That will be the yardstick, imo.

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I'd like to do some more contributions to the wiki, but I'm not really sure where to start or what needs to be done. The main wiki looks pretty complete in terms of basic info, but obviously could be expanded upon with a lot more detail.
It's a shame the dirty/underworld section is offline, since the articles there would be a good source for lots of history-info.

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The discography could be cleaned up a little. the individual pages are ok but the overview is untidy. the Fluke pages are a good example.

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You can still access the Dirty pages here, including the articles section:

http://www.dirty.org/underworld/news.php

As for Wikipedia, the main article needs clean-up. I basically just reformatted it last month into a rough historical chronology to better fit standard Wikipedia style on band articles, but I didn't do any copy editing. Pretty much most of the discography articles could use expansion, clean-up, and standardization.

Check out these featured articles for examples of some of the best music articles available on Wikipedia. These should be guidelines for formatting and content in our articles. There are examples for band, album, and song articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...articles#Music

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thanks! Good to see the articles are still there. Will try and add some stuff over the weekend.

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good to see the pages about the new album, tours, etc have been
updated.

also, thanks to whoever put up the picture of them playing
live in new york (i was there!)..

maybe some more updates later...

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feel free to use any of my pictures/videos for the wiki page.

http://www.dustincamilleri.com

just send me an email and let me know what you're using! :)

- dc

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Yes, it's a lonely job updating Wikipedia. :(

However, as I've intimated to a few people, there are bigger plans afoot, wiki-wise. :D

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???????? initiated? imitated? intimadated?

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intimate[1,transitive verb]

2 : to communicate delicately and indirectly : hint

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time to use a dictionary..

anyways, a couple of things.

1 since OWB is out, the main pages wording has been changed
to reflect that

2 the album page for OWB, might want to reflect it being available
on iTunes, and also from the service that people get from pre-ordering it..

3 the singles page for 'crocodile' should reflect the iTunes releases also.
(as mentioned by matt, the UK release has an extra mix, not released
elsewhere)..

4 it might want to be mentioned that the underworld store is now open again

5 all 5 of the new live albums should be mentioned as being official..
with the links to the site, listings, etc..

keep up the good work!

later
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looks like all the new live albums have been added,

along with a note about ricks illness, and the cancellation
of the current tours..

later
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shouldn't the 'king of snake' single appear before 'push upstairs'?

looks like we lost the 'confusion the waitress' remix also...

later
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"Push Upstairs" was first, "Jumbo" was second, and "King of Snake" was third.

http://www.discogs.com/release/93392
http://www.discogs.com/release/10628
http://www.discogs.com/release/10625

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i use discogs too,
but they're wrong...

the first 2 promos of 'king of snake' came out way
before 'push upstairs' did..

both matt's site, and lazlo's have the 12"s listed
before the album came out, and then push upstairs..
http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?freur
Underworld: King Of Snake
[1999] single

12": 1999 UK (JBO; JBO 5005826 P) [promo x300; blue sticker]
8:55 King Of Snake (original version)
6:54 King Of Snake (dave angel rework)

12": 1999 UK (JBO; JBO 5005826 P) [promo x300; brown sticker]
6:01 King Of Snake (dave clark remix)
7:30 Kittens (s.m.f.u. - original mix)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Underworld: Beaucoup Fish
[1999] album

CD: 1999 US (JBO/V2; 63881-27042-2)
11:45 Cups
4:34 Push Upstairs
6:57 Jumbo
9:31 Shudder/King Of Snake
4:29 Winjer
4:08 Skym
4:42 Bruce Lee
7:31 Kittens
6:03 Push Downstairs
6:37 Something Like A Mama
7:38 Moaner

CSS: 1999 UK (JBO/V2; ??) [promo sampler]
Cups
Bruce Lee
Kittens

CSS: 1999 UK (JBO/V2; ??) [promo sampler; tracks unconfirmed]
Cups
Jumbo
King Of Snake/Winjer
Skym
Bruce Lee
S.M.F.U.
Push Downstairs

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Underworld: Push Upstairs
[1999] single

etc...

================

also, i remember buying the 12"s, and getting the
dave clarke mix on a sampler cd early too..

i can post the early discography information
from the early rtsr/dreamagoria sites also..

later
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also 'kittens's was one of the first digital releases,
and should have a page for its release also...

later
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Yeah, the promos came out first, but the proper single release was in that order, so that's how it should go, IMO.

As for Kittens, there are certain guidelines for articles on Wikipedia. One of those is notability:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Notability

It will not pass that criteria. That's the same reason the Confusion article was deleted.

I've become increasingly frustrated over the last year by the constraints of Wikipedia. It is simply not an appropriate venue for all the Underworld trivia that we want to put down.

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kittens was a digital release (a free one), but wouldn't that
count, just like itunes releases? its also notable as being the
first one for the group, preceding 'riverun' etc..


yeah, i know, we need another page for the non-standard releases,
why are some promos ok (juanita), and others aren't? (dirty, rowla, etc)..

later
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Kittens was a free download and done way before the whole Napster issue blew up.

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It's not me you have to convince, -1. I'm just telling you what will happen if you make the article, because of the guideline-nazi editors. Here are some more details on Notability:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MUST...clopedic_worth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...nd_Songs#Songs

In particular, this is what Confusion ran afoul of, and why it was deleted. I'm not saying it'll happen right away, but out of the blue one day, someone who's a stickler for those guidelines will happen across the article and nominate it for deletion, and there won't be any way to stop it, just like the Confusion article.

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What about an entry for known songs that have yet to be released. E.g. Bamboo, You Do Scribble. Could be a nice touch to list their first appearances to see how long they've been experimented with to.

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added 'beautiful burnout' to the singles on the wiki.

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Yeah, wasn't there talk of creating our very own dirty.org wiki (well, darktrain.org, I guess)? I'd fully support this, as we could do whatever we want and be as detailed as we like.

The problem with our presence on Wikipedia is that it is strictly encyclopedic, which limits us to things deemed 'notable', like TheBang said (and all sorts of other silly guidelines/restrictions).

Clearly what we need is something more than that: a comprehensive resource to all things Underworld.

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that would be matt v's site.

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but it would be even better and more flexible under the wiki software ;)

[updates] -> _121307_
 

+i've updated the 'beautiful burnout' section a little more
than the 12", and the second promo, by adding the
digital only mixes...

-updated 'boy boy boy' to only be on cd format..

+added the 7 track uk promo cd single to listings..

i guess the main section should be updated to mention
some of the live gigs they've done, webcasts, and
especially releasing 'the book of jam'...


later
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I just wanted to say "thanks" to everyone who has helped update the wiki. I have found it very helpful the past few months as I have been procuring Underworld music, and finding what items to put on my want list.

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i've updated the main page with a sentence to say that 2 sets of tracks
are available through underworldlive.com

does someone want to update the discography at wikipedia?

later
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How comes not all the recent Live albums are not there, any reason?

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yeah,
those need to be added also..

later
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So, is there anyone still working on the wiki?

I've just edited the Spikee page to point to the Dark & Long page as next single instead of the non-existent Spoonman single. D&L already points to Spikee on the way back.

What still needs to exist is an 8 ball page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_Ball_...rworld_song%29
Anyone want to create one?

What points to this page is the Beaucoup Fish Box Set page and the Cowgirl Live page (which exists at the bottom of the Cowgirl page) in the chronology.

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No, I gave up on Wikipedia. The notability and citation requirements are just too stringent for the kind of stuff we want to put on there.