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oh i know. trust me, ive thanked yannick for MANY things on MANY MANY occassions :P

im just trying to think of the best way to do this. putting them on ebay does the following:

1) allows people to buy mult. copies.
2) limits it to a certain time
3) opens it up to random non-dirts getting these discs.

its not like they were gonna be listed for weeks so that enterprising resellers would see them and decide otherwise. basically, 100+ people said they wanted discs. why not just sell them directly to the 100+ people and cut this nonsense out?

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i dont even mind it being at 4 am. i can stay up until 4 am. it's just that, well, i was a guest that day and it wouldnt have been right to rumble downstairs and wake 4 other peole up (including my girlfriend) just so i can nab something (that admittedly i want very badly) that i can *plan* to get on the next batch.

though i suspect i'll have to be quick. if 12 are sold in the first minute, now that word'll get around to a second auction that number could likely spike.

put on your (bid) war face :mad:

so when's the next round? eh?

haha, i woke up this morning at 6, checked the site, saw that they were all gone, mentioned it, and the gf said "that's because CRAZY people probably set their alarms"
"i would have set the alarm"
"you don't get enough sleep as it is"
"SO?"
"augh.."

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Phew, thank god theres more next week. Had to do other things today which had more importance then getting a CD!

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Sounds like a conversation I'd have with my wife. Sleep.. Ha! Who needs it when you can spend your waking hours listening to UW ;)

Hope you get one the next time around - I may even be willing to help you out if there's a chance you won't be available - One UW fan to another.

Cheers,

now playing: Mmm Skyscraper I Love You / Jamscraper - UW

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Got one, too!
It was kind of funny... Because today i went with my parents on holiday to my grandparents 400 km away. The problem was that they do not have any internet.:o Then i tried to convince my parents to not leave today, or to leave later, because i needed that CD set... :D (how rudiculous... i know)

Finally we arrived at 13:10 (after some nasty traffic jams), i jumped out of the car, ran with my father's laptop to their telephone trying to set up an ancient analog modem internet connection.:p That took me nearly 10 minutes, when i saw there were only 15 left, and i got one!

I hate analog modem, it's soooo slowwww!:rolleyes:

Thanks to Yannick and all involved!

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I must correct myself - I bought the 14th one remaining, so I was actually #36... :confused:

...dAvE anxiously awaits a US shipping price...

now playing: Cups - UW

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Wow... I guess I really WAS lucky... seriously... I've been without Internet access for a couple days, had NO idea this was happening - but had to be in at for for 6:00 this morning (they went on sale at 7:00 my time) - and just happened to check the dirty site to see if there'd been any new info on the Tokyo discs... lo and behold, there is - and they're on sale in like 2 minutes... lucky day for me (after surveying this thread for weeks)...

Sorry to those that missed out - and I agree, a later start time might give THIS side of the pond a running start for the next batch...

_ebay_postage_to_US_
 

well, you might want to make sure
you get in an email, or the invoice
shows it...

but for the last round, the
shipping price to the US was
UKP 2.50

so the total was : UKP 17.50

later
-1

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I missed out. Someone will pay dearly for this oversight.

:mad:

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i wonder why they are keeping the releases small. i don't know why they dont' put another 200 out there or something, and just sell them for a while. the more they sell, the more money they make...

i hope this is a sign of things to cme at their concerts though, being able to get the deck recording on cd after, or best case off of underworldlive.com

Re: _ebay_postage_to_US_
 

Ha! It's only UKP 2 this time! We got a discount! :p

Re: ebay tokyo cd's to be listed tomorow..
 

Because Danielle has to post all these by hand and she's only a wee girl and cant carry 200 envelopes to the post office :p. She'd be there hours sending them all to different places ;). Plus, this gives an opportunity for people who missed it the chance to put some time aside and make sure they get one next time. They might simply not have 200 left. When theyre gone, theyre gone.

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Whew!

Those that do have it, how do you compare it to other live bootlegs and Everything, Everything?

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Sigh....missed again. I like the idea of an auction name that means nothing though. Will try again next week....

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Well, this is so far the only high-quality 3 hour live recording there is. And since this is directly from the soundboard the quality is very good indeed. Of course, EE was a fully produced and mastered album so that may sound superior, but it's only about an hour long. EE is more polished (no mistakes), there are a couple of mistakes in this show to remind you that it's actually live :)

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Can someone who already has one of these tell me if these are these silver pressed CDs or burned CD-ROMs?

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i hate to be the negative person here, but whats to stop the same people from buying them each release?

i guess i just hate how convoluted everything is now. could have been so simple but instead, we have to jump through hoops to get listens to this stuff. this isnt the way it used to be.

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what's convoluted?
it was so fuckin' straightforward that shit was gone in an hour 15.
it's simple. 50 now, take a break, sell another 50 later with an obscure number just for dirty folk. granted *some* non-members will be there to take those precious few, but that's what an advance warning and link-providing gets you. remember when this was exclusive to those who were there? remember that they decided to start selling them when ebay prices went past 200, and then went and *organized* selling an extra 100?
nothing's stopping nobody, but you think of a system where people could actually be stopped. a PM system means that everyone who's watching this will just create BS registrations. a dirty-only event does the same thing...

just get on the freakin' ball already...

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convoluted is a system where we have to declare via a poll IF we are going to buy the item, then wait 3 weeks to find out a date (no time mind you) when the items are going to be released on a third party site, then have to check the forums again to find out they were released at 5am and that they are in fact, all gone.

simple is a system where you click a link on Dirty or UWlive, and purchase the cds. No guess work, no waiting and hoping that you hit refresh quick enough or stayed up all night.

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that's gratitude for ya.............. ;)

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eyah, how about we phone up mal and ask him to make a site just for you because you just can't handle all of this nail-biting uncertainty, all of the meaningless waiting, and missed deadlines even when it's coming again! are your stress levels maxed out yet?!

christ, this is like getting a laptop for your birthday and complaining that you didnt know about it beforehand, and people had to ASK you what you wanted.

you're getting a goddamn 3-CD gig, it's not even that complicated, you're just antsy because you think you've waited for too long. dry your eyes and just friggin go with it if you want one at all.

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I promise I won't buy any more. One's good enough for me....:D

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Pototobroth: this is sounding more and more like sour grapes from you. The only persons fault it is for not getting a CD set is yours. Yannick said when they would be onsale and gave us the link. The only thing that made it a pain in the arse was the fact that midday UK time is pretty damn awkward for people in the Americas.

I got mine in the first auction of 10, but I do remember that 8 hours later, in the evening UK time another 10 was made available. Maybe this time the auction for the next 50 will be at a more favourable time.

"simple is a system where you click a link on Dirty or UWlive, and purchase the cds. No guess work, no waiting and hoping that you hit refresh quick enough or stayed up all night." and that would also be selling them through an official channel which I believe would be against the terms of the original Electraglide agreement. These are being sold through Mal's personal ebay account which in all probability neatly sidesteps any legal wrangles.

Comprendez?

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ugh. this isnt about gratitude. like ive said before, yannick has done more for me in regards to UW than anyone else on this board combined and ive thanked and rethanked him to no end. its just that lately, things are getting more and more difficult around here in the way of music, and the aquiring of. i cant be the only one who thinks this way. eh maybe im way off and you all are just trying to knock me down to reality again :)

as an avid collector of UW (mostly for the music, less for the item) this show in particular has proven to be hoop after hoop after hoop before becoming one that has and looking back at those that want.

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really? i thought this was underworld selling them and not us. and if its us, where the heck did we come up with 100+ more cds? are these just burned copies? if thats the case then yeah sell them how you want.

and believe it or not, this isnt sour grapes. you got one of the first ten, no doubt, because you knew about it ahead of time. i have no problem with that. i know yannick is doing all he can to get them in our hands, trust me i do. its the manner of doing this that i dont like. there are just so many unecessary steps and luck involved. if thats the intention, then so be it. but to say its my fault i didnt get one when they sold out so fast isnt fair really. using this method, not all of us are going to get one.

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The legal position is that they cant commercially sell them outside of the halls of Electraglide, simple as that. Its entirely feasible that the unsold CDs were returned to the Tomato offices in the UK.

which goes to show you cant please all of the people all of the time. As for being told about it ahead of time, i was told about it by Karl via his underworldlive.com picture to keep an eye on ebay. I was looking every day and spotted that they were on sale. In fact, I even said to myself that these must be more people bootlegging it again. 6 copies of the 10 had already gone and I got one of the last 4 and told the dirties in close proximity to me to get the other three. I'm just the person who cleans the shit up around here and I don't get any preferential treatment.

Things are not getting more and more difficult round here in the acquiring of music. With Riverrun you didnt even have to leave the house to buy it. Its just because the Japanese got their exclusives with 2 items. The JAL EP and the Tokyo 3CD, one was to promote Electraglide and the other was a souvenir of Electraglide.

Underworld didnt have to make these CDs available to us, but they gone out of their way to try to make sure that dirties have got them and by and large, they have in 80-90% of the cases. I suspect that if you dont get one next week it will be either because you didnt get out of bed in time again, or are still here moaning. :cool:

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Jeez, we are lucky to be able to get our hands on this thing at all!

It was released as an Electraglide-only thing, and UW and the Lemonworld bods and everyone else involved has bent over backwards to make sure that the real fans are able to get their hands on a copy. I was fortunate to get my hands on a rip of them early in the day. I was also fortunate* enough not to be working the day the first 10 showed up on eBay and was able to purchase it straight away.

But hey, maybe if you whine enough, Rick and Karl will have one personally delivered to your door with a crate of Crystal, a kilo of caviar and a sprinkling of the fairy dust that you assume everyone else around here possesses and you don't!

Qui part a la chasse perd sa place! Get with the program!

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no, its more like saying: a bunch of people had advance word to buyng a laptop 2 months ago and got a very small release of them. and some other people, who use a fan forum of said laptop, were asked "hey, who wants to buy this laptop when it comes out?" and many replied, "why I would like to buy this laptop." well you have to wait and hope you actually get one because we're really not suppossed to be selling them anyway, but we are so there are some available, but only to those that were in the right place at the right time. and all the while, some people are selling these laptops are quadruple the cost and thus, causing drastic measures by the laptop forum people to try and combat it.

i understand i dragged this out way too far, and for that i apologize. but it doesnt change the fact that things, to me, seem like they are getting a lot more complicated in regards to dirty. maybe im wrong, and really i admit i might be, but that doesnt change the fact that it seems that way to me.

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mr. potatobroth has a point. I for one was fortunate enough to get one of these (anxiously awaits a package in the mail :eek:). One thing I will say though, is if the CD was available by regular channels (i.e. UW website, etc...) , although it would then be available to all, then it wouldn't be as much an item for the superfan such as myself and no doubt yourself and most, if not all on the dirtylist. That being said, those of us that do obtain a copy (whether by keeping to date with the forums, or spending insane amounts of money) will have something we can consider special and rare - making us super UW fans.

I myself am primarily a collector of music, rather than hats and t-shirts and flyers and unused concert tix, but there are just some things that you have to own in physical, tangeableness. I d/l this show long before I found out about copies being sold - yet I still purchased it, because the mp3's alone just didn't give me that pride of ownership - sure this is just a 3CD live concert. But that's what sets us apart from the novices when it comes to UW.

hmmm, despite being a music collector, I really need to get me a pair of them UW Adidas... :rolleyes:

Cheers,


now playing: Waiting For The Night To Fall - DM

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>_<

what?

it's not the sense of permance or increased likelyhood that you have this to enjoy 10-20 years from now, it simply distinguishes you amid a small group of collectors??

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The whole point is, this CD is not, and never has been, and was never intended to be, available through normal channels.

It was a promo item associated with Electraglide only.

Do you really think that if it were possible for the band to release this in the way you describe, they would refuse to do so just to piss us all off? Look at the history of this release, look at the steps that have been taken to satisfy Dirts.

If...

If...

If...

If my aunty had balls, she would be my uncle.

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you'd still be complaining that you didn't know the exact time that the link was going to be put on uwlive so when it was, all the available copies were sold out anyway before you realised. There's absolutely zero difference with the ebay approach as long as there's going to be a limited number of items to sell. Except maybe that these ebay auctions are deliberately "hidden" from view so as to give people visiting dirty as much chance as possible to get them, whereas with a link on uwlive anyone could see it and they would be gone even quicker.

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nope. and perhaps i wouldnt get one either, but at least it wouldnt seem so bizarre to me.

admittedly, it never occured to me that the selling of these discs was against some copyright of the cds, as i just assumed that R&K were putting more copies out to Yan and Mal to redistribute. i mistakenly assumed that by asking how many people wanted them, that the intention was to get to those people directly. I also didnt know that there was a finite amount. if ive offended anyone, i apologize. just realize that its easy to say, "be patient, and wait for your chance" when you already have the discs and have had them for months in some cases. this was the same gripe i had about the mp3s when they first came out if you remember.

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it's just a live cd for christs sake. next time i'll purchase 10 and sell them for $$$ to the desperate among you. :)

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... I meant that from a general standpoint. Do you know how many times I've listened to Karl say "say hello to all the dirties listening over the wonderful internet"... just from listening to the show, you can feel the energy... My reason for obtaining a copy of this show was to feel like I was a part of it somehow (although I wasn't clearly as I was on the other side of the globe). I would have spent the nearly $300 for a copy of this did I not have a wife and child to think about. I am forever grateful to all in part for making some of these available for such a fantastic price. THANK YOU to all involved once again, if I knew you all personally I'd buy you a pint!

Cheers,... raises glass...


now playing: The Sun & The Rainfall - DM

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and share the mp3s on Slsk afterwards :p

Re: ebay tokyo cd's to be listed tomorow..
 

... it must have been from you that I got mine from originally ;)

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i swear i have never listened to that recording, neither on mp3 nor CD

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Hence the reason why the original limited release for the people who went to the gig is getting released to us. Crazy bids on ebay is dumb for something that was broadvast via dirtyradio ALL WEEKEND.

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dirtyradio is blocked from where i work so there's that.

crazy bids on ebay are a direct result of people on here saying how frigging great this show is, and the complete lack of options to obtain it. at first, there were those that had the mp3s and those that didnt. those that had said, "its not for sharing" at first. that annoyed those who didnt have - big thread on this. on dirts word alone, i would have spent way too much trying to get this 3cd set. but luckily a dirt came to my rescue and he/she is super awesome! i got the mp3s and played them to death. i still do. now i dont NEED the discs, but i have this weird desire to own them like i do other underworld stuff. i dont mind paying for their music even if ive just been handed perfect mp3s. if i got these discs, chances are i would still only play the mp3s that i own, but i still want a set as do lots of dirts here.

not all of us are gonna get the ebay sets. not all of us can get dirty radio in regular intervals. not all of us live in japan to go to the show. but ALL of us want to hear and/or own this set. its amazing. it just kinda sucks how hard it is to obtain it.